Re-Branding of Leagues Clubs SMH

@LaT said:
Hold on, I never snipe at Magpies…..I snipe at YOU and those like YOU on this forum because of your attitude, scoffing at attempts of unity, perceived victim hood, and general inability to move on.

You need to accept that this is not a club of Wests Tigers + Magpies.
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No-one said the NRL club was Wests Tigers + Magpies. We are talking purely about the leagues clubs and how convenient it is for the bankrupt Balmain boys now wanting Wests to re-brand their clubs. No chance, where was this 10 years ago when Balmain Leagues Rozelle was trading. Wests Ashfield would never accept this and nor should they given our long history.
Any attempts to remove the Magpie from Ashfield will be met with brute force if necessary.
Leave the leagues clubs out of any NRL board re-structuring or prepare for much deeper divisions.
 
@Knuckles said:
In 20 years time (or not even that long) who is going to identify with an emblem that is obsolete ? It's only those who have had a connection in the past …. People in future generations will wonder why the heck things haven't moved on.
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I disagree.

In 20yrs time future generations will see what we show them.

I never see the magpies in the WT it feels like a new club to me but I do want to feel that the Wt are a linear progression from Balmain and Wests so I feel we are part of this new club with histories attached.

And young people can be given a brief history of both old clubs when becoming members. Some may have no interest but many will like to feel they are following a club with real history it adds to the passion,

It did for me.
 
@Lidcombe_magpie said:
@LaT said:
Hold on, I never snipe at Magpies…..I snipe at YOU and those like YOU on this forum because of your attitude, scoffing at attempts of unity, perceived victim hood, and general inability to move on.

You need to accept that this is not a club of Wests Tigers + Magpies.

No-one said the NRL club was Wests Tigers + Magpies. We are talking purely about the leagues clubs and how convenient it is for **the bankrupt Balmain boys now wanting Wests to re-brand their clubs.** No chance, where was this 10 years ago when Balmain Leagues Rozelle was trading. Wests Ashfield would never accept this and nor should they given our long history.
Any attempts to remove the Magpie from Ashfield will be met with brute force if necessary.
Leave the leagues clubs out of any NRL board re-structuring or prepare for much deeper divisions.
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Where did it say anybody from Balmain wanted them rebranded?
Talk about fanning the flames! :brick:
 
The Balmain Leagues should be rebranded Wests Tigers.

If Wests Ashfield and Cambo want to follow suit, that should be entirely up to them and their members. If they don't, I don't see the issue.

I still would like to see the club get to the point where we don't need the leagues clubs so that we're not funded by pokies.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
The Balmain Leagues should be rebranded Wests Tigers.

If Wests Ashfield and Cambo want to follow suit, that should be entirely up to them and their members. If they don't, I don't see the issue.

I still would like to see the club get to the point where we don't need the leagues clubs so that we're not funded by pokies.
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The Leagues clubs don't put a significant sum into the Wests Tigers in the overall scheme of things. Most of our funding comes from the NRL profit sharing arrangement and Corporate sponsorships. The leagues clubs are the owners of the Joint Venture …. My point is it would make more sense to ditch the term joint venture and become one club. To become one club everything should be rebranded.

When I first mentioned merging the NYC teams I met with the same resistance. The result is it has been a success. Same story with the second grade team ..... The success of that is the combinations that are built from playing together rather than against each other. Now we are coming to another challenge .... Merging the leagues clubs ..... It'll happen eventually.
 
gotta say- when i go past ashfield station and look at the wests magpies leagues club- it doesnt feel the same as seeing a wests tigers league club written on there if it does become that.

talking to a non footy person- it's hard to explain where wests tigers are from- i just say they are from the inner west all the way to south west.
 
@Lidcombe_magpie said:
@LaT said:
Hold on, I never snipe at Magpies…..I snipe at YOU and those like YOU on this forum because of your attitude, scoffing at attempts of unity, perceived victim hood, and general inability to move on.

You need to accept that this is not a club of Wests Tigers + Magpies.

No-one said the NRL club was Wests Tigers + Magpies. We are talking purely about the leagues clubs and how convenient it is for the bankrupt Balmain boys now wanting Wests to re-brand their clubs. No chance, where was this 10 years ago when Balmain Leagues Rozelle was trading. Wests Ashfield would never accept this and nor should they given our long history.
Any attempts to remove the Magpie from Ashfield will be met with brute force if necessary.
Leave the leagues clubs out of any NRL board re-structuring or prepare for much deeper divisions.
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Spot on LM.

Stupid idea and will never happen. Some people are really easy with the idea of getting rid of over 100 years of history.
 
A few things they said would never happen have happened and a few things they said would never work have worked. To say the history would be lost shows a basic lack of understanding.
 
I love the "brute force" line….I have this image of several 50 year old men,dressed in their magpie suits swooping on construction guys as they replace the magpie with a tiger.
 
@simonthetiger said:
I love the "brute force" line….I have this image of several 50 year old men,dressed in their magpie suits swooping on construction guys as they replace the magpie with a tiger.
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Yeah well first post and they come up with that… Kind of ruins a legitimate argument when you start advocating violence as a reasonable approach.
 
Indeed Simon lol.

It appears to be only the most diehard Wests fans who care whether the leagues clubs are Wests Tigers or Wests Magpies. How many fans without the word Magpie in their forum name have come out and flatly denied that this could or should happen?

It definitely shouldn't be forced, but it definitely makes sense for all the leagues clubs to share the nationally recognised name and brand of Wests Tigers. You can have your nostalgia lanes for both Balmain and the Magpies inside the respective clubs, but overall the name and brand should be Wests Tigers.
 
Yeah rename the club. Wests Ashfield will become the spiritual home, with Balmain no chance of making a leagues club comeback, and Campbelltown to be retained as Wests Magpies, I could live with this. Well it's already my home, but now the players will have a place called home to. For a re-renaming of our club to take place, I would hope Wests Ashfield have it in concrete that they have exclusive rights to the name of Wests Tigers Leagues Club, leaving Tigers to Balmain and Magpies to Campbelltown.

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The naming of the new(possibly,maybe) club at Rozelle as "Wests Tigers Balmain" is already in the pipeline but will probaly get rolled unless the Maggies reciprocate.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Indeed Simon lol.

It appears to be only the most diehard Wests fans who care whether the leagues clubs are Wests Tigers or Wests Magpies. **How many fans without the word Magpie in their forum name have come out and flatly denied that this could or should happen?**

It definitely shouldn't be forced, but it definitely makes sense for all the leagues clubs to share the nationally recognised name and brand of Wests Tigers. You can have your nostalgia lanes for both Balmain and the Magpies inside the respective clubs, but overall the name and brand should be Wests Tigers.
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I did.

I don't think the Ashfield club should be renamed. As I said before this is the heartland of the Western Suburbs Magpies (and cricket team). This stems from when the games were played at Pratten Park. The Ashfield Leagues Club is very profitable from local trade. Locals either do not care much for football, or they understand the history of the area and the club.

Wests Tigers supporters are unlikely to travel to patronise the club at this point and changing the name would not change that because games are not played in the area anymore. So I just can't seem how changing the name would be of any benefit, and to be honest, I think saying that it should simply shows a lack of understanding of the situation.

The Campbelltown Club is a different story. It makes perfect sense to change the name as games are played in the area, and it may well have a positive impact on trade.
 
Simple solution.

IF the clubs want to leverage off the WT name and be associated with them, why not have both logos side by side?

If they don't want to be associated with WT, fine…

Commercially though, it makes sense to throw a WT logo onto each club that supports the WT venture financially. Having the two logos shows where they have come from and where they are now.

I am a huge Tigers fan, originally Balmain. I honestly think this has a lot to do with the logo we use and I'm sure Wests fans feel like they're identity has been swallowed up - a bit like St George and the Steelers. I know I'd feel that way if we were called Balmain Magpies.

I'm not sure if this is the right solution, and maybe Wests fans can comment, however I think a logo change that incorporates the old Wests logo and the old Balmain logo or have the Balmain Logo and the Wests logo on each sleeve...
 
It amuses me how so many fans say they have truly moved on from their original club to truly embrace the Wests Tigers. But when issues like rebranding comes up, merging state cup teams etc …. Those who claim to fully embrace the new team really haven't moved on at all.
 
@Knuckles said:
It amuses me how so many fans say they have truly moved on from their original club to truly embrace the Wests Tigers. But when issues like rebranding comes up, merging state cup teams etc …. Those who claim to fully embrace the new team really haven't moved on at all.
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Yeh….coz theres just soooooo many :bash

Regardless....I think the two 'issues' can be isolated and kept seperate, its an individual opinion, personally....a minor blip in the big scheme of things and wouldnt rate barely a second glance mid- season/during footy
 
@Knuckles said:
It amuses me how so many fans say they have truly moved on from their original club to truly embrace the Wests Tigers. But when issues like rebranding comes up, merging state cup teams etc …. Those who claim to fully embrace the new team really haven't moved on at all.
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What is more amusing, and it was mentioned on about page 2 or 3, is that we are up to 5 pages of comments about the Leagues clubs. Organisations that apparently won't be needed in the future.

Makes you think that having strong leagues clubs is…........you know...........kind of important to our sustainability.
 
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