Re-Branding of Leagues Clubs SMH

[NT_Tiger]

To quote Abraham; "I think there are NRL rules in place whereby you cannot include in the NRL logo, more than one club's logo. So you cannot have a tiger and a magpie on the one NRL logo for example. This was discussed way back in 1999/2000 if I recall correctly.

Fair enough, I have to admit to being ignorant of NRL branding rules. My post was more about thinking of Wests Tigers as an entity in its own right, not even as a joint venture that implies two halves, but as one entity. If that is our starting point then all the parochial claptrap just becomes background noise to be ignored, and those with a forward vision can move on.

I appreciate the post by Mighty Maggie. I found it really informative. Once again, i am ignorant of the business set up of Wests Ashfield, and the other Leagues clubs for that matter.

I can fully see why none of the businesses would want to rebrand and would certainly not want to have rebranding forced upon them. This is so for the reasons I put in my original post. These clubs have proud heritage and their members are members in part because of that heritage, it shouldn't be swept aside or forgotten. Some/many members may not support Wests Tigers, so it would be bad business to rebrand with that in mind. Why is rebranding necessary?

Surely there is scope within the NRL branding rules and within NSW Legislation, to do with business structures and branding, that will accommodate acknowledgement of both Western Magpies and Balmain Tigers as being the heritage of Wests Tigers. There must also be a way for each of the sponsoring clubs to advertise, and be acknowledged for, their support of the Wests Tigers. Maybe I am assuming too much, but I would think this would operate to their benefit.

However we still need to get away from parochialism and have Wests Tigers (a single entity) as our starting mindset.

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Yeah,some very intelligent posts in this thread,"Wests Tigers Campbelltown" & "Wests Tigers Balmain" are no brainers but Ashfield is the tricky one for diehard Maggy lovers,to have Tigers up in lights will be a hard sell..

 

[balmain boy]

As has been discussed it certainly shouldn't be forced, but the opportunity to expand the reach and appeal of the club is certainly real. Many of the members of the club wouldn't know or care about league - so any change will be negligible for them.

Of those members who are league fans the vast majority would support Wests Tigers, and perhaps only a handful would support the Magpies.There would be perhaps a few hundred magpies fans who would be upset by the rebranding to the WT, but the potential for advertising and promotion during matches, in official marketing collateral etc could dramatically increase the awareness and appeal of the club, and bring relevance to a club which to many is just some building with a heap of pokies and a restaurant with a big buffet.

I'm not a member of the club, but have friends who are and they agree with me.

All three clubs (when Balmain get's their act togther) should be branded as WT imo.

The Ashfield Directors should research the pros and cons of the proposal, as from a cost benefit perspective it will cost them very little but potentially bring them a positive result and at worst a neutral impact.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

As has been discussed it certainly shouldn't be forced, but the opportunity to expand the reach and appeal of the club is certainly real. Many of the members of the club wouldn't know or care about league - so any change will be negligible for them.

Of those members who are league fans the vast majority would support Wests Tigers, and perhaps only a handful would support the Magpies.There would be perhaps a few hundred magpies fans who would be upset by the rebranding to the WT, but the potential for advertising and promotion during matches, in official marketing collateral etc could dramatically increase the awareness and appeal of the club, and bring relevance to a club which to many is just some building with a heap of pokies and a restaurant with a big buffet.

I'm not a member of the club, but have friends who are and they agree with me.

All three clubs (when Balmain get's their act togther) should be branded as WT imo.

The Ashfield Directors should research the pros and cons of the proposal, as from a cost benefit perspective it will cost them very little but potentially bring them a positive result and at worst a neutral impact.

And to further accentuate this merging of goodwill and forgetting of the past lets get balmains 100 poker machine licences over to the new wests( tigers)club(Campbelltown or ashfield) as an act of goodwill .So we can dust ourselves of this fossilised notion that balmain leagues will ever return and lets turn the runing over to a new Wests(tigers)club at Campbelltown.I say Campbelltown because with a big successful leagues club the size of canterbury leagues right next to the ground will help expand our appeal in the macarthur area and it will also help in the chances of a stadium upgrade longterm.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Why not make Campbelltown the Wests Tigers Leagues Club and leave Ashfield as it is.

What would the Wests Magpies people say if a proposal was put forward along the lines of:
*The Campbelltown leagues Club is rebranded to be Wests Tigers Leagues. Once done, Campbelltown will get more home games.

I'm an old Balmain fan and I love Leichhardt oval, but looking forward, Campbelltown is where the juniors are going to be, its where the stronger leagues clubs are it's where we are most likely to get govt funding for a massive upgrade to one of our traditional home grounds.

Why sacrifice the potential to eventually have a new stadium at Campbelltown and possible even 10 home games a year played out there sometime down the track in the future to fight for a picture and a word on the wall of a building?

People who think this somehow delete's history is stupid.

And if they are so concerned about that, then they can move all of that gear to Ashfield and have their den over there.

Both sides are clinging on to frivolous s*** under this thinly veiled cloak of concern about losing its identity or its history.

And in return they are killing the Wests Tigers, which would also mean the death of Balmain and Wests Magpies.

Why can they not see this?

Its so frustrating how these antiquated irrelevant morons are allowed to hold the Leagues Clubs and the NRL side to ransom over such petty squabbles.

I bet if they caused the NRL side to go under and were left with no team in the NRL or NSW Cup, none of them would step forward and claim responsibility.

They'd just continue blaming the other lot and carrying on like the petulant simpletons they are.

Do we just have to wait until a whole generation of Balmain and Magpies supportes die before we're able to take the Wests Tigers forward?

Agreed.Let campbelltown be renamed wests tigers leagues club.And in a show of faith from balmain sign all licences for the poker machines they currently have over to wests(tigers) campbelltown.So Campbelltown can get about another 100 poker machines.

Well for one thing it would need to approved by the State Govt (the transfer of polies licenses). Secondly I don't think Campbelltown needs another 100 pokies. I think I'd have a bit of a problem with our ongoing financial success being dependant on bleeding dry the Macarthur District. Possibly some of those licenses are floating around Five Dock and Flemington anyway.

Fine give campbelltown 20 machines and ashfield can take the other 80.I am a follower of the WESTS TIGERS not the five dock tigers or the flemington markets tigers.Those clubs are jokes anyhow.

 

[Yossarian]

Why not make Campbelltown the Wests Tigers Leagues Club and leave Ashfield as it is.

What would the Wests Magpies people say if a proposal was put forward along the lines of:
*The Campbelltown leagues Club is rebranded to be Wests Tigers Leagues. Once done, Campbelltown will get more home games.

I'm an old Balmain fan and I love Leichhardt oval, but looking forward, Campbelltown is where the juniors are going to be, its where the stronger leagues clubs are it's where we are most likely to get govt funding for a massive upgrade to one of our traditional home grounds.

Why sacrifice the potential to eventually have a new stadium at Campbelltown and possible even 10 home games a year played out there sometime down the track in the future to fight for a picture and a word on the wall of a building?

People who think this somehow delete's history is stupid.

And if they are so concerned about that, then they can move all of that gear to Ashfield and have their den over there.

Both sides are clinging on to frivolous s*** under this thinly veiled cloak of concern about losing its identity or its history.

And in return they are killing the Wests Tigers, which would also mean the death of Balmain and Wests Magpies.

Why can they not see this?

Its so frustrating how these antiquated irrelevant morons are allowed to hold the Leagues Clubs and the NRL side to ransom over such petty squabbles.

I bet if they caused the NRL side to go under and were left with no team in the NRL or NSW Cup, none of them would step forward and claim responsibility.

They'd just continue blaming the other lot and carrying on like the petulant simpletons they are.

Do we just have to wait until a whole generation of Balmain and Magpies supportes die before we're able to take the Wests Tigers forward?

Agreed.Let campbelltown be renamed wests tigers leagues club.And in a show of faith from balmain sign all licences for the poker machines they currently have over to wests(tigers) campbelltown.So Campbelltown can get about another 100 poker machines.

Well for one thing it would need to approved by the State Govt (the transfer of polies licenses). Secondly I don't think Campbelltown needs another 100 pokies. I think I'd have a bit of a problem with our ongoing financial success being dependant on bleeding dry the Macarthur District. Possibly some of those licenses are floating around Five Dock and Flemington anyway.

Fine give campbelltown 20 machines and ashfield can take the other 80.I am a follower of the WESTS TIGERS not the five dock tigers or the flemington markets tigers.Those clubs are jokes anyhow.

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

What would the Wests Magpies people say if a proposal was put forward along the lines of:
*The Campbelltown leagues Club is rebranded to be Wests Tigers Leagues. Once done, Campbelltown will get more home games.

I'm an old Balmain fan and I love Leichhardt oval, but looking forward, Campbelltown is where the juniors are going to be, its where the stronger leagues clubs are it's where we are most likely to get govt funding for a massive upgrade to one of our traditional home grounds.

Why sacrifice the potential to eventually have a new stadium at Campbelltown and possible even 10 home games a year played out there sometime down the track in the future to fight for a picture and a word on the wall of a building?

People who think this somehow delete's history is stupid.

And if they are so concerned about that, then they can move all of that gear to Ashfield and have their den over there.

Both sides are clinging on to frivolous s*** under this thinly veiled cloak of concern about losing its identity or its history.

And in return they are killing the Wests Tigers, which would also mean the death of Balmain and Wests Magpies.

Why can they not see this?

Its so frustrating how these antiquated irrelevant morons are allowed to hold the Leagues Clubs and the NRL side to ransom over such petty squabbles.

I bet if they caused the NRL side to go under and were left with no team in the NRL or NSW Cup, none of them would step forward and claim responsibility.

They'd just continue blaming the other lot and carrying on like the petulant simpletons they are.

Do we just have to wait until a whole generation of Balmain and Magpies supportes die before we're able to take the Wests Tigers forward?

Agreed.Let campbelltown be renamed wests tigers leagues club.And in a show of faith from balmain sign all licences for the poker machines they currently have over to wests(tigers) campbelltown.So Campbelltown can get about another 100 poker machines.

Well for one thing it would need to approved by the State Govt (the transfer of polies licenses). Secondly I don't think Campbelltown needs another 100 pokies. I think I'd have a bit of a problem with our ongoing financial success being dependant on bleeding dry the Macarthur District. Possibly some of those licenses are floating around Five Dock and Flemington anyway.
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Fine give campbelltown 20 machines and ashfield can take the other 80.I am a follower of the WESTS TIGERS not the five dock tigers or the flemington markets tigers.Those clubs are jokes anyhow.

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…
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Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

The transfer of the pokie licences is an absolutely easy thing.And from here it seemed people had some really great idea what to do with these licences and basically you are saying you would rather the pokies blow up than being used for the betterment of the wests tigers.I dont understand what drives your stance.Perhaps those grenades u r seeing is the difficulties of acknowledging what is best for wests tigers.Thats my interest not going on some agenda driven rant. :unamused: :unamused:

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

The transfer of the pokie licences is an absolutely easy thing.And from here it seemed people had some really great idea what to do with these licences and basically you are saying you would rather the pokies blow up than being used for the betterment of the wests tigers.I dont understand what drives your stance.Perhaps those grenades u r seeing is the difficulties of acknowledging what is best for wests tigers.Thats my interest not going on some agenda driven rant. :unamused: :unamused:

Stop the eye rolling and point out where I've said anything that wasn't supportive of Wests Tigers or what is best for them. First you accuse me of being too pro-Balmain in this thread and now you change tack. You're the only one throwing grenades and acting agro at the moment mate - most other people seem to be able to have a discussion without that.

I (and others have made the point with more feeling than myself) have expressed a desire for the club to move beyond a business model driven by gambling revenue. At the end of the day we're humans as well and some of us have different viewpoints on social issues. Doesn't mean we don't support the Wests Tigers - of course we do.

That is a seperate viewpoint from the logistical issues with transfering pokie licenses which is a different matter entirely. I don't believe it to be as easy as you suggest.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

I have read these posts three times over and I still cannot fathom how he extrapolated that conclusion from your comments.

Keep posting Jerry, unlike your namesake you give me a good laugh…

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

I don't think you're seeing the point Jerry…

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

I have read these posts three times over and I still cannot fathom how he extrapolated that conclusion from your comments.

Keep posting Jerry, unlike your namesake you give me a good laugh…

Im looking at increasing the finances of the wests tigers aswell as looking to help with a stadium upgrade and the increased exposure of the Wests Tigers in the community.He is saying he would rather rip up the exact thing that will allow for all these things to happen.You better read it a 4th time.Or have A look in the mirror and keep uppercutting until you dont see anything. :roll :roll

 

[Yossarian]

Actually what I said was I didn't think the Macarthur region needs another 100 pokies. I don't recall saying I wanted to rip up anything. Increasing our exposure in the community is not exactly the same thing as putting in more pokies. But hey, why waste time mounting a coherent discussion when there are all those emoticons.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Nope that would be you yoss.We have 3 ex balmain fans here in you,me and mad unit but you are the odd one out when denying what should happen for the betterment of the wests tigers.Your swimming against the tide here yoss.Let go of your balmain way or the highway mentality.Its time yoss.Its time. :unamused: :unamused:

You know mate, we're having a nice rational conversation and you throw grenades and totally misrepresent what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about the model being proposed. I'm saying that to transfer poker machine licenses you need to have certain approvals beyond the leagues club agreeing (I believe it requires state planning approval). That was the entirety of my point here. When during this thread have I said anything vaguely along the lines of Balmain or the highway?

So before you start with your petty insults how about reading what is being said pal.

I have read these posts three times over and I still cannot fathom how he extrapolated that conclusion from your comments.

Keep posting Jerry, unlike your namesake you give me a good laugh…

Im looking at increasing the finances of the wests tigers aswell as looking to help with a stadium upgrade and the increased exposure of the Wests Tigers in the community.He is saying he would rather rip up the exact thing that will allow for all these things to happen.You better read it a 4th time.Or have A look in the mirror and keep uppercutting until you dont see anything. :roll :roll

I think you've forgotten how to English properly, if your comprehension skills were on par with your ability to overuse emoticons you'd be the forums equivalent of Chomsky.

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[system]

Leave Noam Alone

 

[happy_tiger]

Gee CB you are giving the dictionary a working over today

( well I am ,looking up some of these words ,and some of the examples)

However a word to the wise would be sufficient

 

[Knuckles]

Having a Wests Tigers Leagues club at Campbelltown right next to the ground we play at makes perfect sense to me.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Having a Wests Tigers Leagues club at Campbelltown right next to the ground we play at makes perfect sense to me.

I don't think the club would agree to that proposal unless they get an increase of games there.

 

[happy_tiger]

Having a Wests Tigers Leagues club at Campbelltown right next to the ground we play at makes perfect sense to me.

Sounds like madness to me Knuckles

Setting up Leagues Clubs beside grounds :unamused:

Next thing you'll expect is the fans going to the Leagues Clubs before and after games

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Having a Wests Tigers Leagues club at Campbelltown right next to the ground we play at makes perfect sense to me.

But someone on here decided to use 35 emoticons and is trying his best at impersonating a 6 year old girl whos lost her dolly(cultured bogan and his rent a crowd)because I insinuated this also and that I want to see wests tigers grow.Theres one common denominator in all this boo and his from the 6 year old brigade.They are all ex balmain livin in the 70's Im ex Balmain livin in 2013.