Realistic team list round 1 2018

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1\. Tui (gk)
2\. Nofa
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5\. Fonua
6\. Reynolds (vc)
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. ET (Captain)
10\. Packer
11\. McQueen
12\. Aloiai
13\. Eisenhuth

14\. Twal
15\. Sue
16\. Marsters
17\. Grant

18\. Benji
19\. Lawrence

ET isn't a DH. You need someone closer to a halve, than ET is. He passes well when given the ball. But not as good off the ground and looking for gaps to exploit in the defensive line.
He'd be good there defending but not in attack.
20 mins at most.
 
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What's everyone's thoughts of ET at hooker???

I think we need some size in the backrow and I'd have Eiso at lock.

ET has strong defence that could handle the middle role and is a good ball player.

You need someone who can make a bust at hooker. ET can handle it sometimes but I don't see it as his spot.
 
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2018 team
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5\. Rona/Founa
6.Reynolds (VC)
8\. Matulino
9\. Liddle/ Matt
10\. Packer
11\. Mcqueen/Lawence
12\. Aloaia
13\. Taylor (C)

14\. Twal
15.Sue/ Grant
16\. Marsters
17\. Eisenhuth

18\. Marshell

I think you'll need a halfback in that side somewhere, Swaggy!!
 
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Marsters
5\. Fonua / Rona
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. Liddle / Rein / Mcillrick
10\. Packer
11\. Mcqueen
12\. ET ©
13\. Aloiai

14\. Twal
15\. Sue
16\. Eisenhuth
17\. Benji / Grant

18\. Benji / Grant
19\. Lawrence
The hooker is a tough one, i like Liddle but to me he hasn't proven himself and our late run of form has come when he has been injured. MM isn't just there yet if he developed a nice kicking game i would have him in the team. Rein is a left field option that has done the job in first grade with and could guide the team properly. Milne isn't proven either to deserve a starting spot, and i cannot see all the hype about him.
 
First Grade: 1\. Tui 2\. Rona 3\. Suli 4\. Milne 5\. Nofa 6\. Reynolds 7\. Brooks 8\. Packer 9\. Liddle 10\. Matulino 11\. Mcqueen 12\. Aloai 13\. Taylor 14\. Twal 15\. Marsters 16\. Sue 17\. Eisenhuth

NSW Cup: 1\. Naiqama 2\. Thompson 3\. MWZ 4\. Tali 5\. Fonua 6\. Gamble 7\. Marshall 8\. Grant 9\. Mcilwrick 10\. Felise 11\. MCK 12\. Lawrence 13\. Rochow 14\. B Sironen 15.Marshall-King 16\. Sokobolava 17\. Gibbs
 
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1\. Tui (gk)
2\. Nofa
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5\. Fonua
6\. Reynolds (vc)
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. ET (Captain)
10\. Packer
11\. McQueen
12\. Aloiai
13\. Eisenhuth

14\. Twal
15\. Sue
16\. Marsters
17\. Grant

18\. Benji
19\. Lawrence

Good effort. Although I would have Benji instead of Marsters and I just can't come at Milne at this stage, I think he has a lot to prove.
Also I think the off season will provide a couple of more signings.

Don't mind it but I'd have Liddle there instead of Grant.
 
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1\. Tui (gk)
2\. Nofa
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5\. Fonua
6\. Reynolds (vc)
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. ET (Captain)
10\. Packer
11\. McQueen
12\. Aloiai
13\. Eisenhuth

14\. Twal
15\. Sue
16\. Marsters
17\. Grant

18\. Benji
19\. Lawrence

Good line up. I would have Liddle at 9 (assuming he can go 80 mins) but the headache is what to do with ET and Eiso who in my opinion are competing for the same lock position.
 
I think ET needs to be in the middle.
But lock is basically a third prop, and ET is not a prop

We need ET in the team but Eisenhuth looks a better prospect.

Good luck Ivan Cleary, #13 will cause plenty of headaches.

And I think Liddle the best young hooker in the game and it would be stupid not to play him at 9 for 80 minutes.
 
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2018 team
1\. Lolohea
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5\. Rona/Founa
6.Reynolds (VC)
8\. Matulino
9\. Liddle/ Matt
10\. Packer
11\. Mcqueen/Lawence
12\. Aloaia
13\. Taylor (C)

14\. Twal
15.Sue/ Grant
16\. Marsters
17\. Eisenhuth

18\. Marshell

I think you'll need a halfback in that side somewhere, Swaggy!!

Damn i forgot Brooks.
 
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There have been calls to buy another 2nd rower, but Lawry/ET/McQueen/Aloiai/Marsters is more than enough

Second Rowers seem to break down a lot. As they play long minutes and have a lot of heavy contact. Depth is very important in the 2nd row.
 
I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

When you say "next year" I think a quality purchase could be made before the season starts. No inside info. Just gut feel with the cap and the position some teams are in.
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

Pretty sure that there would have to be contract extensions etc to allow changing the amount for any year, with the Lawrence renegotiation a prime example even if the other way around, so unless there is change the club cannot front load.
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

Pretty sure that there would have to be contract extensions etc to allow changing the amount for any year, with the Lawrence renegotiation a prime example even if the other way around, so unless there is change the club cannot front load.

Yep, would take a change in a contract. But that's hardly a tough sell to a team player. We know they've done the reverse with Benji/Robbie in the past.
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

When you say "next year" I think a quality purchase could be made before the season starts. No inside info. Just gut feel with the cap and the position some teams are in.

I actually meant for 2019 roster. My bad with the wording. But hopefully your gut is right and we add one more quality outside back before season kick-off. I certainly don't feel as though we desperately need to do so though as Cleary has created a solid squad to start the rebuild with.

If the right players aren't available. Wait till 2019.
 
I think what the 27 pages of posts here is clearly showing is that we finally look like a squad with a bit of depth in most positions. I like the fact that there are options now for DH with Liddle, MM, Reynolds (my choice), even Benji. We have Matulino, Packer, Twal, Sue, Grant, JJF in the front row and a reasonable selection from McQueen, ET, Aloiai, Huth, Lawrence, Masters, MCK to take on back row positions.

In the backs we look a little untested - hence someone like Rona would really strengthen us - big, strong, fast and good finisher. He looks unlikely to come across though, so we need a replacement for him as I believe we are currently short of speed - we are mostly strong but slow in the outside backs. The halves and FB positions will depend on form with Benji the only real option in the halves if Brooks and/or Reynolds are out.
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

Pretty sure that there would have to be contract extensions etc to allow changing the amount for any year, with the Lawrence renegotiation a prime example even if the other way around, so unless there is change the club cannot front load.

Yep, would take a change in a contract. But that's hardly a tough sell to a team player. We know they've done the reverse with Benji/Robbie in the past.

Yep, nothing went wrong with those two examples :brick:
 
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I think all we need now is a quality outside back, plus some depth options to round out the numbers, then front load (if cap left) and pick up more quality next year.

Pretty sure that there would have to be contract extensions etc to allow changing the amount for any year, with the Lawrence renegotiation a prime example even if the other way around, so unless there is change the club cannot front load.

Yep, would take a change in a contract. But that's hardly a tough sell to a team player. We know they've done the reverse with Benji/Robbie in the past.

Yep, nothing went wrong with those two examples :brick:

Back-loading is a VERY different concept to front-loading. Surely you guys get that? What would you do if we have spare money in the cap, there are no decent players available and we've filled our roster by the transfer window mid-season?

Let me break it down. The only options are

1) Buy players we don't need or want and waste it.
2) Ignore the cap under-spend.
3) Increase players contract values for no reason.
4) Bring forward some payments so we have more capacity to make a marque signing and greater chance at a premiership for following years.
 
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