goldcoast_tiger
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Based on his record! nothing else .
RLW's 50 worst buys in NRL history
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Based on his record! nothing else .
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
I remember being at Leichhardt one day trying to rev the team up with another guy and Terry turning to us to encourage us to keep it going. He couldn't have easily taken big money and turned it up but my memory is he tried his arse off most days for some terrible sides.
GNR4LIFE
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@goldcoast tiger said:
Which one, the one where he played for NSW and Australia?
goldcoast_tiger
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@GNR4LIFE said:
No . The more current one, where he dumped his club and teammates and waltzed off to contemplate his navel.
BTW, I couldn't find where it was that I wrote him off.
I thought what I actually said was that "I'd be very surprised if he's not."
Tim Sheens
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@goldcoast tiger said:
His record is certainly not stellar, but I would much rather any player with a mental illness, particularly one that had also suffered a serious injury, leave to contemplate their navel/future than hang around in an unsuited environment.
Masterton
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@Muffstar said:
I watched plenty of Titans games when he was there. There was many a time when they were looking terrible, offering nothing in attack, and Idris would make a break.
I'm not saying he's great, but the only reason he is on the list is because the club paid him too much.
Anasta should be higher (lower?). 12 wins while he was here - and maybe a total of 12 touches and 12 metres from him. Terrible signing.
Blair will definitely be in the top 10\. Matty Head was another who came with a bit of expectation but did nothing - mainly due to injury, don;t think we paid him much though?
Blair will definitely be in the top 10\. Matty Head was another who came with a bit of expectation but did nothing - mainly due to injury, don;t think we paid him much though?
southerntiger
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@happy tiger said:
Marshall???
Do you mean his abysmal Auckland Blues stint or the one at the Dragons where the fans wanted him gone for 2 years?
happy_tiger
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@southerntiger said:
Your sarcasm charger seems to be not working again
Ah the old hide behind the sarcasm detector after a dopey comment..Correct use of sarcasm in this case would have been Blake Ayshford…
happy_tiger
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@Geo. said:
That why I included Farah , a person who hasn't played against us
Oh Geo , I fear for you
fibrodreaming
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When I saw the thread's title "RLW's 50 worst buys" I immediately thought of Olaf Prattel, who the Magpies bought from Balmain as their marque signing in the early 1970s. But then I realised that the NRL didn't exist in that time, so Prattel doesn't qualify as one of " RLW's 50 worst buys in NRL history".
@TrueTiger said:
I disagree the main reason he wasnt succesful is because sheens tried to turn him into something he wasnt.He was fine in his last year and is still good at the drongos.Sheens never changed his opinions and kept on hammering square pegs into round holes Johnie Cronk was another he stuffed up.
jirskyr
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http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/50-worst-buys-nrl-history-10-6/
**10\. MARTIN KENNEDY (Broncos, 2014)**
Another one of the big recruits of the 2013/14 off-season. Kennedy arrived at the Broncos on big money after a successful five-year stint at the Roosters.
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However, the Norths Ipswich product fell out of favour with Broncos coach Anthony Griffin and spent a month playing Intrust Super Cup.
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He had a relatively decent end to the season, but was released by the Broncos to link up again with the Roosters. Unfortunately, Kennedy was then embroiled in the peptides scandal and failed to play a game for the Tri-colours in 2015.
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**9\. ADAM DYKES (Eels, 2002-04)**
After being named Dally M five-eighth of the year in 2001, Cronulla pivot Adam Dykes made the surprise decision to sign a four-year deal with the Eels, presumably as a replacement for the retiring Jason Taylor.
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Injury problems saw the former City Origin representative make just 38 appearances over three seasons and he successful gained a release to re-join the Sharks for the 2005 season.
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**8\. CHRIS WALKER (Rabbitohs, 2003)**
A high profile signing from Brisbane, former Origin winger Walker lasted just five games at Souths (scoring just one try) before walking out to join traditional rivals the Roosters.
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It is believed that Walker’s contract at Souths was worth somewhere in the vicinity of $250,000 per year.
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**7\. CHRIS SANDOW (Eels, 2012-2015)**
In 2011, when Parramatta signed Rabbitohs Chris Sandow on a four-year contract reportedly worth $550,000 a year, South Sydney CEO Shane Richardson boldly declared that the Cherbourg product had met his Alan Bond.
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The statement was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the late Kerry Packer, who sold Channel Nine to fellow media mogul Alan Bond for $1 billion, before buying it back three years later for just $700 million.
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Richardson’s statement proved oddly prophetic. Sandow struggled for form big time during his first two seasons at the Eels and was often dropped to NSW Cup feeder side Wentworthville.
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That said, the pint-sized playmaker experienced a return to form under Brad Arthur in 2014, winning the club’s player-of-the-year award. That was short-lived though because less than a year later he was released to join Warrington in the Super League.
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**6\. BEN BARBA (Broncos, 2014)**
Brisbane Broncos fans thought they had a new Darren Lockyer on their hands when they landed the 2012 Dally M medallist for the 2014 season. However, Barba was a shadow of his former self at Red Hill.
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Starting at fullback, Barba was eventually shifted to five-eighth, but he never really offered much in the playmaking stakes coming up with just four line break assists and six try assists to go with his seven line breaks.
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His move to the Sharks has seen a renewed version of the silky playmaker as he returned to his best footy in helping the Sharks to their maiden premiership in 2016.
**10\. MARTIN KENNEDY (Broncos, 2014)**
Another one of the big recruits of the 2013/14 off-season. Kennedy arrived at the Broncos on big money after a successful five-year stint at the Roosters.
>
However, the Norths Ipswich product fell out of favour with Broncos coach Anthony Griffin and spent a month playing Intrust Super Cup.
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He had a relatively decent end to the season, but was released by the Broncos to link up again with the Roosters. Unfortunately, Kennedy was then embroiled in the peptides scandal and failed to play a game for the Tri-colours in 2015.
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**9\. ADAM DYKES (Eels, 2002-04)**
After being named Dally M five-eighth of the year in 2001, Cronulla pivot Adam Dykes made the surprise decision to sign a four-year deal with the Eels, presumably as a replacement for the retiring Jason Taylor.
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Injury problems saw the former City Origin representative make just 38 appearances over three seasons and he successful gained a release to re-join the Sharks for the 2005 season.
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**8\. CHRIS WALKER (Rabbitohs, 2003)**
A high profile signing from Brisbane, former Origin winger Walker lasted just five games at Souths (scoring just one try) before walking out to join traditional rivals the Roosters.
>
It is believed that Walker’s contract at Souths was worth somewhere in the vicinity of $250,000 per year.
>
**7\. CHRIS SANDOW (Eels, 2012-2015)**
In 2011, when Parramatta signed Rabbitohs Chris Sandow on a four-year contract reportedly worth $550,000 a year, South Sydney CEO Shane Richardson boldly declared that the Cherbourg product had met his Alan Bond.
>
The statement was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the late Kerry Packer, who sold Channel Nine to fellow media mogul Alan Bond for $1 billion, before buying it back three years later for just $700 million.
>
Richardson’s statement proved oddly prophetic. Sandow struggled for form big time during his first two seasons at the Eels and was often dropped to NSW Cup feeder side Wentworthville.
>
That said, the pint-sized playmaker experienced a return to form under Brad Arthur in 2014, winning the club’s player-of-the-year award. That was short-lived though because less than a year later he was released to join Warrington in the Super League.
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**6\. BEN BARBA (Broncos, 2014)**
Brisbane Broncos fans thought they had a new Darren Lockyer on their hands when they landed the 2012 Dally M medallist for the 2014 season. However, Barba was a shadow of his former self at Red Hill.
>
Starting at fullback, Barba was eventually shifted to five-eighth, but he never really offered much in the playmaking stakes coming up with just four line break assists and six try assists to go with his seven line breaks.
>
His move to the Sharks has seen a renewed version of the silky playmaker as he returned to his best footy in helping the Sharks to their maiden premiership in 2016.
jirskyr
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http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/50-worst-buys-nrl-history-5-1/
**5\. MATT ORFORD (Raiders, 2011)**
After going down narrowly to the Wests Tigers in the 2010 semi-finals, plenty of good things were expected of the Raiders in 2011\. Granted, they suffered a massive blow when it was revealed that Terry Campese would miss the start of the season following off-season knee surgery, but the blow looked to have been eased when the Raiders signed 2008 Dally M medallist Orford from Bradford.
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Unfortunately, Orford proved an unequivocal flop, playing six uninspiring games before succumbing to a groin injury. He was released from the Raiders at the end of 2012.
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4\. **KIERAN FORAN (Eels, 2016)**
It’s tough to put someone who was forced walk away from the game for personal reasons on this list, but the bottom line is simple – he was a very expensive mistake for the Eels.
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While his on-field performances were promising to start, the fact he was heralded as the clubs best signing in recent memory means it was only ever going one of two ways, and unfortunately for both player and club it ended as a failure.
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The fact Foran is in line to return to the NRL in 2017 with the Warriors is just a further kick in the guts to the Parramatta fans.
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3\. **ADAM BLAIR (Tigers, 2012-14)**
Tim Sheens cut Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita specifically to recruit Kiwi Test forward Adam Blair. In retrospect this proved to be a pretty poor decision.
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At Melbourne, Blair was one of the most destructive forwards in the game, in both attack and defence, but at the Tigers, he was ill-disciplined and error prone, ultimately losing his Test jersey.
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He slowly started to play to his potential during 2014 season but was released by the Tigers to link up with Brisbane where he helped them reach the 2015 decider.
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2\. **RENI MAITUA (Sharks, 2009)**
The talented Maitua was expected to add a touch of class to a formidable Sharks forward pack after arriving in the Shire following his 2008 sacking from Canterbury.
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However, the former Test lock played just eight games for the Sharks (all losses) before he was banned from playing rugby league for two years for testing positive to a banned substance called Clembuterol.
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1\. **SAM TOMKINS (Warriors, 2014-15)**
Proclaimed the ‘English Billy Slater’, Sam Tomkins arrived in the NRL as the Warriors’ ‘million dollar man’ ready to take them to the next level . . . sadly that never happened.
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From the get go Tomkins struggled with the speed and intensity of the NRL which often left him susceptible to injury. In two seasons the Englishman only managed 37 appearances for 14 tries at a win percentage of just 48\. Citing homesickness, Tomkins was granted a release from the final year of his mega deal to return to his beloved Wigan Warriors in 2016.
Totally forgot about Blair hey, how convenient for me. But RLW isn't right, I don't think his error rate was that bad and he has always been ill-disciplined, he still gets pinged a lot at Broncos.
What it showed was that Melbourne get some great mileage out of having the right player in the right position, and it doesn't necessarily carry on to other clubs. Blair is an example, also Brett White, Widdop, Matt Orford to an extent, Richard Swain, Tony Martin, Kirk Reynoldson, Antonio Kaufusi, Steve Turner, Dane Nielsen, maybe an argument for Ryan Hoffman etc.
There are definitely others who moved on and went ok, but it just sticks in my mind the Storm players who were highly-rated only whilst they were at the Storm, and couldn't take that form elsewhere esp. when big performances were expected of them.
**5\. MATT ORFORD (Raiders, 2011)**
After going down narrowly to the Wests Tigers in the 2010 semi-finals, plenty of good things were expected of the Raiders in 2011\. Granted, they suffered a massive blow when it was revealed that Terry Campese would miss the start of the season following off-season knee surgery, but the blow looked to have been eased when the Raiders signed 2008 Dally M medallist Orford from Bradford.
>
Unfortunately, Orford proved an unequivocal flop, playing six uninspiring games before succumbing to a groin injury. He was released from the Raiders at the end of 2012.
>
4\. **KIERAN FORAN (Eels, 2016)**
It’s tough to put someone who was forced walk away from the game for personal reasons on this list, but the bottom line is simple – he was a very expensive mistake for the Eels.
>
While his on-field performances were promising to start, the fact he was heralded as the clubs best signing in recent memory means it was only ever going one of two ways, and unfortunately for both player and club it ended as a failure.
>
The fact Foran is in line to return to the NRL in 2017 with the Warriors is just a further kick in the guts to the Parramatta fans.
>
3\. **ADAM BLAIR (Tigers, 2012-14)**
Tim Sheens cut Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita specifically to recruit Kiwi Test forward Adam Blair. In retrospect this proved to be a pretty poor decision.
>
At Melbourne, Blair was one of the most destructive forwards in the game, in both attack and defence, but at the Tigers, he was ill-disciplined and error prone, ultimately losing his Test jersey.
>
He slowly started to play to his potential during 2014 season but was released by the Tigers to link up with Brisbane where he helped them reach the 2015 decider.
>
2\. **RENI MAITUA (Sharks, 2009)**
The talented Maitua was expected to add a touch of class to a formidable Sharks forward pack after arriving in the Shire following his 2008 sacking from Canterbury.
>
However, the former Test lock played just eight games for the Sharks (all losses) before he was banned from playing rugby league for two years for testing positive to a banned substance called Clembuterol.
>
1\. **SAM TOMKINS (Warriors, 2014-15)**
Proclaimed the ‘English Billy Slater’, Sam Tomkins arrived in the NRL as the Warriors’ ‘million dollar man’ ready to take them to the next level . . . sadly that never happened.
>
From the get go Tomkins struggled with the speed and intensity of the NRL which often left him susceptible to injury. In two seasons the Englishman only managed 37 appearances for 14 tries at a win percentage of just 48\. Citing homesickness, Tomkins was granted a release from the final year of his mega deal to return to his beloved Wigan Warriors in 2016.
Totally forgot about Blair hey, how convenient for me. But RLW isn't right, I don't think his error rate was that bad and he has always been ill-disciplined, he still gets pinged a lot at Broncos.
What it showed was that Melbourne get some great mileage out of having the right player in the right position, and it doesn't necessarily carry on to other clubs. Blair is an example, also Brett White, Widdop, Matt Orford to an extent, Richard Swain, Tony Martin, Kirk Reynoldson, Antonio Kaufusi, Steve Turner, Dane Nielsen, maybe an argument for Ryan Hoffman etc.
There are definitely others who moved on and went ok, but it just sticks in my mind the Storm players who were highly-rated only whilst they were at the Storm, and couldn't take that form elsewhere esp. when big performances were expected of them.
