Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Yee hah –- Eddie where have you been? Not sure many love Moltz - but agree t with the essence of the comment. The monetary factor also raises the level of expectation on Farahs shoulders especially now - but agree that at times the level of consistent and quality support around him as been pretty ordinary.
 
@Telltails said:
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Yee hah –- Eddie where have you been? Not sure many love Moltz - but agree the with the essence of the comment.

Farah was a champion footballer Eddie

But that's the problem Eddie , was not is

Time moves on and so do football clubs
 
Whether Farah was or still is at least he gave it his best, even when injured. Yes he had them walking on egg shells after a losing game - maybe there was reason for that. Last game I watched live was when they played Titans at Gold Coast some years back. After a while they sort of stopped trying and got overrun though they had a better record that year to date if my recollection was correct. It was quite inconvenient for me all the travel etc. and a bit disappointing the lack of effort. If the Capt had them walking on egg shells that night good on him.
 
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

I don't blame Farah I blame his cretin manager Ayoub for firstly not telling Farah and then advising him to stand his ground. The biggest problem with Ayoub is that he thinks he is smarter than he actually is.
What happen to the tell all from Ayoub ? His smear campaign has ground to a halt.
 
Should Ayoub be advising his client to just acquiescence and move from the Club that he has given all for for so long and still has a solid contract with? Robbie has proven when given a free rein he can still perform and win when the team backing up. Why didn't Taylor pick on the players who were not doing their fair share of the defence effort rather than the best tackler? There is no substitute for a good worker. And if it was wrong for Robbie for chiding the boys after a poor game why wasn't Jason protecting them?
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
Should Ayoub be advising his client to just acquiescence and move from the Club that he has given all for for so long and still has a solid contract with? Robbie has proven when given a free rein he can still perform and win when the team backing up. Why didn't Taylor pick on the players who were not doing their fair share of the defence effort rather than the best tackler? There is no substitute for a good worker. And if it was wrong for Robbie for chiding the boys after a poor game why wasn't Jason protecting them?

Oh please… Ayoub couldn't give a rats about Farah's service to the club. This is the bloke who has extorted CEO's for over a decade.

Ayoub was happy to shop Robbie around in the hope of getting a new commission. Once that failed he resorted to his usual tactics of manipulating the media and riding gun-shot over the club.

Love Farah, but Ayoub is a grub!
 
@Eddie said:
Robbie should probably go for his own good. Although does he have anywhere to go? I feel sorry for him really. He will be playing reserves if he stays, and he doesn't deserve that.

People can say Robbie is always a factor in bringing down coaches but what did he do to undermine Taylor?. He did not do anything to Taylor, Taylor just sacked him basically with 2 years to go on his deal. Robbie didn't try and get Taylor sacked or go against the turgid game plans.

**With Farah's history with coaches Taylor prob thought he could garner some support amoung the faithful for his decision.** It was a smart move from Taylor really to take the heat off him from the shocking football and results he was producing. "oh its farah again stiring trouble he must be the root of all problems" It was a good deflection in my opinion.

Anyway, in saying all that. I hope Robbie finds somewhere else to play. Ballin is not coming over to play reserves. Robbie will only be damaging himself and the team be clinging on here in our pathetic mess of a organisation. Taylor has made his call and he wont be far behind Robbie out the door if it does not work.

The Taylor ''faithful''…up against the Farah faithful?
Really.

Maybe....all this is nothing more than a coach seeing one player as gaining a fresh start being the best for player and team involved, yes its been handled arse up but contracts mean jack these days
 
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Farah probably has the same attitude you do.
Thinks hes better than hios team mates.
You clearly dont understand much about the concept of team sports if this is your thinking.
Fresh start elsewhere is urgently reqd if this is in fact the case, youre probably right.

As for the dud players….maybe point the finger at those that sign them, or those running the club who get it to a level where this is all we can sign

Moltz, Dene and Keith had years and years under Sheens, a coach that had won premierships and coached at an elite level

If we are the Broncos or the roosters and we have a team full of players playing at this elite level week in week out, we arent having this discussion....but you think players that make first grade are duds, and only rep players are any value

Team sport

No I
 
@happy tiger said:
@Telltails said:
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Yee hah –- Eddie where have you been? Not sure many love Moltz - but agree the with the essence of the comment.

Farah was a champion footballer Eddie

But that's the problem Eddie , was not is

Time moves on and so do football clubs

Football clubs need to honour contracts. What infuriated many WTs' supporters was the alleged threat made to Farah and also the unfortunate choice of Taylor and Reddy as a negotiating pair. If the club had made its decision to move Farah on, surely someone in the club with sensitivity, tact, understanding and good communication skills should have been negotiating with Farah. Who chose Taylor and Reddy? Is that individual being held to account? We all talk about accountability so her it is! We missed a great opportunity to come to a mutually agreeable outcome with Farah. I think at one stage there was some talk of him playing one more season and then of the ESL. Those of us who support Farah have every reason to feel let down.
 
@Fumbles said:
I don't blame Farah I blame his cretin manager Ayoub for firstly not telling Farah and then advising him to stand his ground. The biggest problem with Ayoub is that he thinks he is smarter than he actually is.
What happen to the tell all from Ayoub ? His smear campaign has ground to a halt.

I agree. From Day 1, it looked like an Ayoub construct. Now in a sense, Farah has been left hanging. Yes he is still at WT but his position in the starting 17 is far from secure. It could be an excellent thing for the club. He will have to play the house down.
Taylor has been astute. While the Farah camp was playing the media, Taylor was planning football. He now has two other options, one young and dynamic and one with experience at hooker to choose from so if he doesn't pick Farah he can justify it easily.
 
@Eddie said:
The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

100% correct.

I think that there is this tendency to look for special reasons why we've had some bad seasons. People like to think that there is something that you can't see that is causing the problems when it comes down to winning games. Just become a winning footy team which predominantly comes from having good players with a good game plan.
 
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Halatau was one of our best players this yr, and was hands down our best player through the 05 finals series. See the try he scored in the pre lim final against the Dragons as proof. He deadset was strong enough to run through brick walls that yr. But keep pretending that he's never offered this club anything. To compare him with the Moltzen's of the world, crikey.
 
@NT Tiger said:
@Fumbles said:
I don't blame Farah I blame his cretin manager Ayoub for firstly not telling Farah and then advising him to stand his ground. The biggest problem with Ayoub is that he thinks he is smarter than he actually is.
What happen to the tell all from Ayoub ? His smear campaign has ground to a halt.

I agree. From Day 1, it looked like an Ayoub construct. Now in a sense, Farah has been left hanging. Yes he is still at WT but his position in the starting 17 is far from secure. It could be an excellent thing for the club. He will have to play the house down.
**Taylor has been astute.** While the Farah camp was playing the media, Taylor was planning football. He now has two other options, one young and dynamic and one with experience at hooker to choose from so if he doesn't pick Farah he can justify it easily.

That is classic - Taylor 'astute'? :laughing:
He may be a lot of things but 'astute' isn't on his resume quite yet.
 
@NT Tiger said:
@Fumbles said:
I don't blame Farah I blame his cretin manager Ayoub for firstly not telling Farah and then advising him to stand his ground. The biggest problem with Ayoub is that he thinks he is smarter than he actually is.
What happen to the tell all from Ayoub ? His smear campaign has ground to a halt.

I agree. From Day 1, it looked like an Ayoub construct. Now in a sense, Farah has been left hanging. Yes he is still at WT but his position in the starting 17 is far from secure. It could be an excellent thing for the club. He will have to play the house down.
Taylor has been astute. While the Farah camp was playing the media, Taylor was planning football. He now has two other options, one young and dynamic and one with experience at hooker to choose from so if he doesn't pick Farah he can justify it easily.

When this broke, many people up here couldnt believe what they were hearing and sided with Robbie…. The longer this has dragged out, the more and more Robbie has started to lose the support.

While the media spin has effected the club and its perception, it is now effecting Robbie and his perception in the wider community. Virtually everyone I talk to now has a chuckle at Robbie Farah and ask when will the club punt him?!
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@happy tiger said:
@Telltails said:
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Yee hah –- Eddie where have you been? Not sure many love Moltz - but agree the with the essence of the comment.

Farah was a champion footballer Eddie

But that's the problem Eddie , was not is

Time moves on and so do football clubs

Football clubs need to honour contracts. What infuriated many WTs' supporters was the alleged threat made to Farah and also the unfortunate choice of Taylor and Reddy as a negotiating pair. If the club had made its decision to move Farah on, surely someone in the club with sensitivity, tact, understanding and good communication skills should have been negotiating with Farah. Who chose Taylor and Reddy? Is that individual being held to account? We all talk about accountability so her it is! We missed a great opportunity to come to a mutually agreeable outcome with Farah. I think at one stage there was some talk of him playing one more season and then of the ESL. Those of us who support Farah have every reason to feel let down.

Many people still support Farah , but it is time to move on He is not the player he was 5 years ago and not even close to that level

The big problem with what you are saying is this

So clubs have to see out contracts , but the players don't ??
 
I just hope for Farah's and the club's sake that he finds a 2016 spot with the Dragons. There is no future lingering with Wests Tigers. Take the challenge Robbie and prove yourself at the Dragons just as Benji has.
 
Farah is the Wests Tigers and to even suggest that he moves is laughable.

If the club wanted him out give him his dues and end of story.

I give that mutant taylor 7 games before he is punted…
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@happy tiger said:
@Telltails said:
@Eddie said:
One thing that annoys me about some Tigers fans,

They love Keith or Lawrence or Moltzen or Halatau . Players that never delivered us consistent performance or spent huge chunks of seasons doing nothing.

But half of the fans think Farah is the root of all evil

A bloke who got to an elite level and played most of his career at an elite level week in and week out. A guy who went close to 2 Dally m and became an elit origin player for several years.

The worst thing our club suffers from is dud players.

For mine Keith, Lawrence, Moltzen and co had far more to do with the sacking of coaches then Robbie ever did.

Yee hah –- Eddie where have you been? Not sure many love Moltz - but agree the with the essence of the comment.

Farah was a champion footballer Eddie

But that's the problem Eddie , was not is

Time moves on and so do football clubs

Football clubs need to honour contracts. What infuriated many WTs' supporters was the alleged threat made to Farah and also the unfortunate choice of Taylor and Reddy as a negotiating pair. If the club had made its decision to move Farah on, surely someone in the club with sensitivity, tact, understanding and good communication skills should have been negotiating with Farah. Who chose Taylor and Reddy? Is that individual being held to account? We all talk about accountability so her it is! We missed a great opportunity to come to a mutually agreeable outcome with Farah. I think at one stage there was some talk of him playing one more season and then of the ESL. Those of us who support Farah have every reason to feel let down.

:laughing:

Players don't honour them, so why should clubs?
 
@Dinko said:
Farah is the Wests Tigers and to even suggest that he moves is laughable.

If the club wanted him out give him his dues and end of story.

I give that mutant taylor 7 games before he is punted…

No, Wests Tigers is the Wests Tigers.

No player is the club, or bigger than it. To suggest that is what is laughable.
 
@Dinko said:
Farah is the Wests Tigers and to even suggest that he moves is laughable.

If the club wanted him out give him his dues and end of story.

I give that mutant taylor 7 games before he is punted…

Well the other 15 clubs tell a different story

For a player who is supposedly the 2nd best hooker in the comp …... we aren't getting too many bites

If the 2nd best player in any other position came on the market there would be a mad scramble to sign them

Wonder what this is really telling everyone ??

That what the club is saying is probably true , he has caused issues both on and off field and his best is well and truly in the past
 
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