Robbie Farah

If I had to chose between Farah and that cheating lowlife grub in cheat city I would take our captain over him any day of the week.

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I hate Smith, but also rate him as a player, an eighty minute player. The guy is a as much a machine as he is a ?ick.

I rate Farah just as highly, but not as an 80 min player. He has a pretty good motor as well, with a touch of brilliance that few have, which I feel is dulled by his workload. Basically, I want him interchanged for about fifteen minutes a match to get the best from him for 65 mins.
 
I think we might have all had the same unsettling feeling watching the Tigers of the last couple of years and the 9s on the weekend. I have long thought that Mick Ennis is a speed hump for the best football of the Bulldogs and I am starting to think Robbie is heading down that same path. His seemingly aimless sideways wandering from dummy half looking for a ball runner has long outlived its effectiveness. Surely he is more creative than that or maybe the whole attack structure needs to be revised such that his role is a sharp, decisive offload to someone more agile and attacking than he is nowadays. It will hurt his ego and he will be hard to manage if he sooks it but I hope Robbie is open enough to advice. He is certainly smart enough and his commitment and loyalty to the club should never be questioned. But, I hope he is open-minded about how he can best contribute to the success of the team and that those leading the joint are brave enough to make their expectations clear of his role … even if he doesn't like it.
 
This thread shouldn't devolve into a question of whether Farah is as good as Cameron Smith, because he's simply not and doesn't have enough career left to catch him.

The other stuff about Robbie's ego and what he likes or doesn't like - pure speculation, what a waste of time to debate the motives of a player whom you know next to nothing about. Judge him on-field - not even one round down this year.
 
Cameron Smith has had Slater and Cronk pretty much his whole career. I'd like to see him still perform at the same level with some of the trash Farah has had to deal with over the years.

I hope Farah doesn't head down the same path as Benji - all the talent but never given the right support around him to flourish.
 
@alex said:
Cameron Smith has had Slater and Cronk pretty much his whole career. I'd like to see him still perform at the same level with some of the trash Farah has had to deal with over the years.

I hope Farah doesn't head down the same path as Benji - all the talent but never given the right support around him to flourish.

You're seeing it the wrong way. They have had Smith their whole careers.

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@Majere77 said:
My opinion, as unpopular as it will be…....

I Used to like Farah, and thought he had the potential to be one of the best in the game

**He certainly has not lived up to that potential.**

I think he's playing Origin now as to a nod to his past reputation where he probably did deserve it for a year or two.
It's like when they give a director an Oscar for a s*** movie cos they stiffed him on a prior masterpiece

I certainly wouldn't have him after the last series.

**I think he's become a Greedy unintelligent footballer who can always be counted on to make the worst possible decision under pressure.**

He spends half his game Still looking for marker penalties that have not been given for five years,

He Kicks early when all we need to do is settle and hold on to the ball.

He kicks short when a long clearing kick is needed, and vice-versa.

**I would rather almost anyone else in the team having the ball on the last.
I have seen very few players have as many selfish brain snaps as he.**

I've seen him treat fans pretty poorly.

I think he'll ruin Brooks, not guide him.

I detest the fact that some of our fans are so one eyed, the genuinely believe he's better than smith, when he's not even in the same ballpark.

I don't think he's worth more than half the rumoured 900k we are paying him (I dont think any hooker is apart from smith), and all things considered I'd rather he wasn't our Captain, possibly even in our team.

I find myself having to totally agree with this post. I think Robbie takes too much on himself. It's like he's playing for the whole team, a sort of one man band, well Robbie give the rest of the blokes a chance, and do your job :bulb:
 
@underdog said:
You never ever describe Cameron Smith as overplaying his hand, or having a bad game.

They are two things that come up in a Robbie Farah conversation.

That alone puts Cam Smith ahead of Farah.

I've seen Smith have plenty of ordinary games that haven't affected the outcome of the match because of the talent (and coaching) around him.
On another note you would never describe Smith as being creative or passionate (with the exception of his contract).
These are two things ALWAYS mentioned in regard to Farah.
Cam is a sham - overrated.
 
@cktiger said:
@underdog said:
You never ever describe Cameron Smith as overplaying his hand, or having a bad game.

They are two things that come up in a Robbie Farah conversation.

That alone puts Cam Smith ahead of Farah.

I've seen Smith have plenty of ordinary games that haven't affected the outcome of the match because of the talent (and coaching) around him.
On another note you would never describe Smith as being creative or passionate (with the exception of his contract).
These are two things ALWAYS mentioned in regard to Farah.
**Cam is a sham - overrated.**

And i think you're bias
 
Not biased GNR - think he's a decent enough player but wouldn't go so far to say he's anything above that.
Does his job fine - but not a candle on any of the great hookers of the past.
 
I don't think Cameron Smith is that great either but has a lot less poor games and mistakes in him than Robbie does.

Robbie could be heaps better if he just took the right option more than what he does now.
 
@stevetiger said:
I don't think Cameron Smith is that great either but has a lot less poor games and mistakes in him than Robbie does.

Robbie could be heaps better if he just took the right option more than what he does now.

Yes and I would be better if I was a foot higher and could run faster than a turtle. But I am what I am.

Smith's great strength is his football smarts. Robbie may have the flash but Smith has the brains.

Your statement displays an ignorance as to value of decision making in sport.

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Smith is and will always be a more prominent player on the park than Farah,the reasoning is he is a team player where Farah plays for himself. Just last week the wrong decisions were still there, Cam Smith is a great player that drives his team, I'm hoping that Farah can control himself this season with Marshall gone ,if he can be more a team player he will go to the next level.
Individual brilliance is good but not at the expense of the team.
 
@southerntiger said:
Your statement displays an ignorance as to value of decision making in sport.

I think you missed my point. Robbie has the skill-set to be better but doesn't appear to have the decision making ability.

If he had that ability he would be a better player. Hopefully he will develop it in the back-end of his career.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
When you're playing in a team with no halves whatsoever, whats he supposed to do? Keep passing it to nobodies who either do nothing or stuff up. As the best player on our team he took the responsibility to try and lift his team to get them points on the board as there was no-one else capable of doing so.

Yes he has overplayed his hand at times, but when there's no-one else capable of playing a hand i'd rather he be the captain, lead the team and give it a shot.

having brooks, Austin/anasta and moses around will help a lot. Most depth in halves we've ever had, even if somewhat unproven

Well said

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Say Farah were delt the same hand as Smith I have no doubts he'd be the superior hooker. Playing behind a reliable forward pack, with the best halfback and the best fullback in the game in the same side Robbie would without a doubt be the number one rake in the game.
However, he has continually chosen to remain with the Wests Tigers. A team he has carried on his back since our last premiership. A team that has asked him to defend like a mad man and provide point scoring opportunities from dummy half, which is not an easy feat. Yeah Robbie does over play his hand from time to time, but only because the team has required him to do so, so many times over the years.
To the average league fan Smith vs Farah is a simple one, but for the rest of us, I wouldn't trade Farah for Smith any day. Smith couldn't carry a side by himself the way Robbie has.
 
Smith openly admits that he gets alot of information and direction from Cronk, whilst it doesnt sound like much, it allows him to concentrate on his own game alot more. An organising half cuts his communication to a bare minimum, the cattle directed by another general, basic options from the ruck fed to him on a platter… its all time he is blessed with as he moves into position to weigh up the options more immediately in his scope of works.

Robbie bares a different burden. The real key to him unleashing his potential will be his ability to adapt to Brooks, will he be able to relinquish the reigns a little.... massive question for mine, but hope he realises he doesnt have to do it alone, and that Luke is capable of filling the role.
 
@cktiger said:
Not biased GNR - think he's a decent enough player but wouldn't go so far to say he's anything above that.
Does his job fine - but not a candle on any of the great hookers of the past.

Alright CK ,I'm afraid to ask but who do you class as the best hooker of the past ??

And you'd better not say Moltzen :deadhorse: :brick: :imp:
 
i dont think farah has ever played a game with Brooks.

will be interesting to see if he can excel with a proper halfback. Unlike what he had in origin and the team last year
 
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