Round 1: Las Vegas Discussion / *Spoilers*

[Lestronge]

No. You are adding +1 competition point for games that go to Golden Point.

Why is a Golden Point game worth 3 points and all the others worth 2 points?

Assume the Tigers were involved in 3 GP games and drew all 3 after extra time.

We get 3 points

Then take a competitor that lost all 3 of their GP games..under that system they also get 3 points, but they have 3 more losses than us, yet we get the same points.

So basically a GP loss is worth the same as a GP draw.

You can achieve what you want to achieve, but 4 points needs to be the new comp points for a win to make all outcomes stack up fairly.

I literally just said it works in NHL . No problems . It doesn’t need to be fair . If a team keeps taking teams to golden point every time they lose , then whatever .
It will stop teams like us and the cowboys when they lose checking out the last 20 mins .
Like I said a draw to me is the same as a GP loss . You’ve already drawn the required 80 mins . The final 10 is really battling it out for tha extra point.
Like I said it works in ice hockey . It rewards teams who are battling . And it’s less of a bunch to the balls . Like the dragons last night would be like “we got screwed but at least we salvaged something .

 

[gregjm87]

I don't know mate, what am I missing.

If every game is worth 4 points then you award 4 points for a win and zero for a loss.

If you have a golden point game then the winner gets 3 points and the loser gets 1 point.

If it is still a draw at the end of golden point then both teams get 2 points each.

Every game is worth a total of 4 competition points.

Better still just get rid of golden point, sick of the shit.

Your not missing anything. 4 point games is what I and another poster suggested. With the split you have outlined for GP.
TigerTarl suggested 1 point each and GP winner gets an additional point. Doesn't work in my opinion.
Agree piss it off the best solution

 

[weststigers]

I literally just said it works in NHL . No problems . It doesn’t need to be fair . If a team keeps taking teams to golden point every time they lose , then whatever .
It will stop teams like us and the cowboys when they lose checking out the last 20 mins .
Like I said a draw to me is the same as a GP loss . You’ve already drawn the required 80 mins . The final 10 is really battling it out for tha extra point.
Like I said it works in ice hockey . It rewards teams who are battling . And it’s less of a bunch to the balls . Like the dragons last night would be like “we got screwed but at least we salvaged something .

Yes. I know yiu literally just said it.
I know they have it in the NHL.
I know you equate a GP loss with a GP draw.

Trust me. I got it the first time.

My trouble is to chase more fairness, you want to use a system that you yourself say does not need to be fair.

 

[hank37w]

The other thing that is crappy about golden point is that currently the teams that are involved in golden point are playing extra minutes and are suffering extra fatigue which puts them at a disadvantage for their next game.

This is even worse for the loser that walked away with zero competition points and then there is always the possibility that it might be a short turn around and the danger that by playing extra minutes there is the risk that there could be more injuries or due to fatigue, the possibility of a brain explosion that leads to a suspension.

Very unfair and unjust, just get rid of golden point.

 

[happy_tiger]

I still reckon that a draw at full-time should mean both teams get one competition point, THEN they play golden point overtime (5 each way) for the other competition point. It makes the 'Golden Point' name have a double meaning and would make the ladder a truer representation as currently a team losing by one in Golden Point gets the same as a team getting beat by 50. Ie. Nothing.

Each team get a point .....no golden point as far as I'm concerned

 

[happy_tiger]

And no points for a bye .....another stupid idea

 

[weststigers]

And no points for a bye .....another stupid idea

Yes...why do we have this?

 

[hank37w]

It makes the wooden spooners look a bit better because currently they will always end the season on at least 6 competition points.

That's how our current society works, everyone gets a prize.

 

[EllisFan]

Yes...why do we have this?

I reckon psychologically it’s fairer. Like we don’t have to start from last this season. No real impact at the end of the day though.

 

[happy_tiger]

I reckon psychologically it’s fairer. Like we don’t have to start from last this season. No real impact at the end of the day though.

If their is no impact ....why have it

 

[davey_farrell]

apologies if this is in another thread, listening to MMM poddy this afternoon and the host said we are officially 100 percent heading to Vegas next year. Well at least if we do go, we wont get the first round bye again 🙂

 

[Tucker]

They both looked shiet

Dragons halves need a lot of work

Dogs got all the calls and barely got the win

Both have very lacking spines

Unless something drastically changes, they both miss the 8 IMO

It’s round 1

 

[Odessa]

apologies if this is in another thread, listening to MMM poddy this afternoon and the host said we are officially 100 percent heading to Vegas next year. Well at least if we do go, we wont get the first round bye again 🙂

You never know mite go as the fifth team 🤣 hahaha

 

[Odessa]

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apologies if this is in another thread, listening to MMM poddy this afternoon and the host said we are officially 100 percent heading to Vegas next year. Well at least if we do go, we wont get the first round bye again 🙂

Who has not gone yet besides the Tigers ?

 

[Dr_Ice]

I just posted something similar. In my opinion the problem with this though you can't have some competition games where 3 points are up for grabs and some only 2 points.

I agree with you, however interesting that most of the biggest football leagues in the world have this very scenario (3 points if you win, while a total of 2 points shared by teams if a draw).

 

[Holman Barnes #1 Fan]

And no points for a bye .....another stupid idea

Points for a bye confuses the regular fan. Last year I had to explain to one of my friends so many times why his team was actually well-placed for finals despite sitting lower on the ladder than a few other teams who had one or two more byes.

 

[Dr_Ice]

Points for a bye confuses the regular fan. Last year I had to explain to one of my friends so many times why his team was actually well-placed for finals despite sitting lower on the ladder than a few other teams who had one or two more byes.

However would still confuse some if the reverse happens and no points were awarded for a bye.

You will be explaining why his team was not as well placed for finals as teams below them if they still have a bye to come where they have no chance of getting points that week

 

[Tiger Tarl]

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Who has not gone yet besides the Tigers ?

Parramatta, storm, titans and dolphins. And as of next year, bears.

 

[Spartan117]

Parra and Storm play round 1 in past few years.

Qld derby seeks a good game also.

I reckon we may go in 2028

Both can be positive

 

[Lestronge]

Yes. I know yiu literally just said it.
I know they have it in the NHL.
I know you equate a GP loss with a GP draw.

Trust me. I got it the first time.

My trouble is to chase more fairness, you want to use a system that you yourself say does not need to be fair.

I never said that . I said it rewards teams for competing . Teams that don’t compete don’t get the extra point . It also puts more value on the actual 80 minutes . Ie. if it ends in a draw both teams get the 1 point , then battle it out for a second . I don’t know where you’ve twisted yourself in a knot about fairness . I never mentioned fairness once . Does it mean a team can lose 4 times in golden point have the same amount of points as another who won 2 games . Yea so ! IMO there should be some reward for going 80 minutes without losing.
Technically they never actually lost in 80 mins. And GP is a crap shoot.