LIVE GAME Round 16 v Dolphins

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Rock Hopper Steve said:
Fact is fans aren't stupid they can smell a losing day out at the footy, they had no problem selling out Cambo before the injuries struck and we were flogging teams that's the reality of this sports ground.
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Just because we could lose fans should still turn up, i go watch us get flogged by the broncos every year, if the fans want the team and players to embrace it then they have to turn up when were going good or crap, weve been bad for years and the support is still there at leichhardt, why can't it be the same at ctown. And the narative we packed it out when we were going good this season is a myth, we have only sold out 1 game there this year the broncos game, and Newcastle fans travel so a decent % of the 15k for that game could have been away fans
 
innsaneink said:
How many do they claim are there?
Ive never seen a figure quoted iirc
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Years ago pascoe had his stupid claim of 400000 wests tigers fans in australia or something, but the club has never quoted an actual figure, they do always push out narratives theres heaps of fans there and they need to invest and engage it etc to bring all these fans in, like building the office out there, and playing more games there. So they must think theres alot
 
TigerBurnsy said:
Just because we could lose fans should still turn up, i go watch us get flogged by the broncos every year, if the fans want the team and players to embrace it then they have to turn up when were going good or crap, weve been bad for years and the support is still there at leichhardt, why can't it be the same at ctown. And the narative we packed it out when we were going good this season is a myth, we have only sold out 1 game there this year the broncos game, and Newcastle fans travel so a decent % of the 15k for that game could have been away fans
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And what about those that went to LO last week, that didnt turn up yesterday?

Theres heaps of them...maybe they thought we'd lose. I did, I tipped Dolphins in the tipping comp, about 70% tipped dolphins in the forum tipping comp
 
I'm a bit sick of people throwing stones at Campbelltown.

This is your home ground, this is the population of South West Sydney you represent. Forklift drivers, truck drivers, tilers, plumbers, nurses, support workers, new migrants, old migrants... All of them coming with their own stories and struggles.

Just because it doesn't have Leichsrdts history doesn't mean you discount the area completely.

I never even hear players say they're excited to play there. This group of people is a big reason why you're getting paid what you're getting paid.

All the people on here saying oh it's a crap hole because we never win there... We don't win anywhere, just because we win the least here, we give up the area? We don't win here because the players arent passionate about this area became of the perceived low socio economic status. They like Balmain and Ashfield and Concord because of the $5m houses that the people come from.

Maybe we would win here if the players and the Club spent more money in the pathways here, went to schools, listened to each of the parents stories, listened to the history of how this area became what it is.

That is what and who you're playing for.

We are a developing club, not a developed one and this is where most of the development is going to come from.

The moment we move out of here, you watch the Dogs will start spending millions in Liverpool, already all up to Moorebank is considered Dogs territory because they visit schools and give out stuff there regularly.
 
TigerBurnsy said:
Just because we could lose fans should still turn up, i go watch us get flogged by the broncos every year, if the fans want the team and players to embrace it then they have to turn up when were going good or crap, weve been bad for years and the support is still there at leichhardt, why can't it be the same at ctown. And the narative we packed it out when we were going good this season is a myth, we have only sold out 1 game there this year the broncos game, and Newcastle fans travel so a decent % of the 15k for that game could have been away fans
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Probably Cambo is more young family orientated, why would you want to take young kids to a game that smells of a loss and put a with the disappointed tears, more manageable at home.

As for LO it's a different beast, not many families on the hill, it's packed with dudes and mates it's more of a cult thing.

You might want to have every game sold out but you can't make them turn up, their choice.
 
tig_prmz said:
I'm a bit sick of people throwing stones at Campbelltown.

This is your home ground, this is the population of South West Sydney you represent. Forklift drivers, truck drivers, tilers, plumbers, nurses, support workers, new migrants, old migrants... All of them coming with their own stories and struggles.

Just because it doesn't have Leichsrdts history doesn't mean you discount the area completely.

I never even hear players say they're excited to play there. This group of people is a big reason why you're getting paid what you're getting paid.

All the people on here saying oh it's a crap hole because we never win there... We don't win anywhere, just because we win the least here, we give up the area? We don't win here because the players arent passionate about this area became of the perceived low socio economic status. They like Balmain and Ashfield and Concord because of the $5m houses that the people come from.

Maybe we would win here if the players and the Club spent more money in the pathways here, went to schools, listened to each of the parents stories, listened to the history of how this area became what it is.

That is what and who you're playing for.

We are a developing club, not a developed one and this is where most of the development is going to come from.

The moment we move out of here, you watch the Dogs will start spending millions in Liverpool, already all up to Moorebank is considered Dogs territory because they visit schools and give out stuff there regularly.
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The Dogs and Parra owned it well before the Magpies got there. Do a bit of research on the history and you'll start to understand why it doesn't work for NRL, but works well for juniors.

Even the old Newtown Jets tried to move out there. It's not as simple as plonking an NRL team in that area.
 
tig_prmz said:
I'm a bit sick of people throwing stones at Campbelltown.

This is your home ground, this is the population of South West Sydney you represent. Forklift drivers, truck drivers, tilers, plumbers, nurses, support workers, new migrants, old migrants... All of them coming with their own stories and struggles.

Just because it doesn't have Leichsrdts history doesn't mean you discount the area completely.

I never even hear players say they're excited to play there. This group of people is a big reason why you're getting paid what you're getting paid.

All the people on here saying oh it's a crap hole because we never win there... We don't win anywhere, just because we win the least here, we give up the area? We don't win here because the players arent passionate about this area became of the perceived low socio economic status. They like Balmain and Ashfield and Concord because of the $5m houses that the people come from.

Maybe we would win here if the players and the Club spent more money in the pathways here, went to schools, listened to each of the parents stories, listened to the history of how this area became what it is.

That is what and who you're playing for.

We are a developing club, not a developed one and this is where most of the development is going to come from.

The moment we move out of here, you watch the Dogs will start spending millions in Liverpool, already all up to Moorebank is considered Dogs territory because they visit schools and give out stuff there regularly.
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I don’t think the players respect the place at all. There was a video earlier in the year where there was a mini presentation for KPP for his 50th NRL game. He said he couldn’t think of a better place to play his 50th, and his teammates all laughed. I heard someone say it was a reference to the fact we were playing the Knights, but that’s not how I heard it. But if you need more evidence, it is our record there. The players don’t lift.
 
weststigers said:
The Dogs and Parra owned it well before the Magpies got there. Do a bit of research on the history and you'll start to understand why it doesn't work for NRL, but works well for juniors.

Even the old Newtown Jets tried to move out there. It's not as simple as plonking an NRL team in that area.
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In what respect does it not work?
 
tig_prmz said:
I'm a bit sick of people throwing stones at Campbelltown.

This is your home ground, this is the population of South West Sydney you represent. Forklift drivers, truck drivers, tilers, plumbers, nurses, support workers, new migrants, old migrants... All of them coming with their own stories and struggles.

Just because it doesn't have Leichsrdts history doesn't mean you discount the area completely.

I never even hear players say they're excited to play there. This group of people is a big reason why you're getting paid what you're getting paid.

All the people on here saying oh it's a crap hole because we never win there... We don't win anywhere, just because we win the least here, we give up the area? We don't win here because the players arent passionate about this area became of the perceived low socio economic status. They like Balmain and Ashfield and Concord because of the $5m houses that the people come from.

Maybe we would win here if the players and the Club spent more money in the pathways here, went to schools, listened to each of the parents stories, listened to the history of how this area became what it is.

That is what and who you're playing for.

We are a developing club, not a developed one and this is where most of the development is going to come from.

The moment we move out of here, you watch the Dogs will start spending millions in Liverpool, already all up to Moorebank is considered Dogs territory because they visit schools and give out stuff there regularly.
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As young families continue to establish themselves in the growth areas of the Southwest, the demand for infrastructure including sporting facilities and clubs will increase. The NSWRL and also imo the NRL have a role to assist the WTs with developing facilities/programmes to facilitate the expansion of RL.
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
As young families continue to establish themselves in the growth areas of the Southwest, the demand for infrastructure including sporting facilities and clubs will increase. The NSWRL and also imo the NRL have a role to assist the WTs with developing facilities/programmes to facilitate the expansion of RL.
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This nonsense has been dished out since 1987. 40 years is a long time to make it work. The population has grown significantly since then, but you still can't fill the place even when you're giving the tickets away for free.

The growth area stuff is a myth - plenty of junior football played out there (9,000 juniors or thereabouts - 500 teams), not many will to go to a game of NRL for whatever reason.

In contrast, Balmain has only 2,000 juniors around 100 teams, but they'll turn out every week. Leichhardt has now become a destination - people come from everywhere. It is an event. That doesn't matter for junior footy, but it matter for NRL.

If the club recognised this split and played to it's obvious strengths (Pathways and junior investment out of Campbelltown and the NRL stage at Leichhardt/Concord), you'd have a few grumpy Wests fans, but the club would be in better shape.

Right now we are trying to please everyone and in the process pleasing no one.
 
A large majority of families who follow the NRL in Campbelltown I would say have already established connections to teams. Just because Campbelltown is a growth area the Wests Tigers as an established club will not attract new fans just because people move out there.
If the team was a start up team then that might attract new fans but a team that has been established for 25 years in Sydney already, isn't going to draw NRL fans from following a club that they already follow just because they live in the locality. That's not how Sydney fans work.

Wests Tigers can still financially back the junior clubs and players will seek their opportunities to play NRL but you can't dismiss where your fans are to back an area where the fans are not. We don't have a lack of fans issue.
Manly and Cronulla arnt growth areas do you think they would move their base. Not a chance in hell.
I'm not anti Campbelltown but we are an inner west club like it or not.
 
weststigers said:
This nonsense has been dished out since 1987. 40 years is a long time to make it work. The population has grown significantly since then, but you still can't fill the place even when you're giving the tickets away for free.

The growth area stuff is a myth - plenty of junior football played out there (9,000 juniors or thereabouts - 500 teams), not many will to go to a game of NRL for whatever reason.

In contrast, Balmain has only 2,000 juniors around 100 teams, but they'll turn out every week. Leichhardt has now become a destination - people come from everywhere. It is an event. That doesn't matter for junior footy, but it matter for NRL.

If the club recognised this split and played to it's obvious strengths (Pathways and junior investment out of Campbelltown and the NRL stage at Leichhardt/Concord), you'd have a few grumpy Wests fans, but the club would be in better shape.

Right now we are trying to please everyone and in the process pleasing no one.
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South West Growth Area | Planning

We are providing new homes in southwest Sydney close to jobs, schools, amenities and essential services such as main roads, water mains and sewer carriers.
www.planning.nsw.gov.au www.planning.nsw.gov.au
 
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