LIVE GAME Round 26 v Raiders

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It's plainly obvious in this case fans don't understand what constitutes gaining a bit more time in the ruck, and what doesn't. Every single tackle is a contest between ball carrier and tackler. The ball carrier attempts to win the collision, poke their nose through two defenders and immediately find their front when they come to ground. If they achieve this, they've won the tackle and defenders cannot slow the play the ball by holding down.

The defenders win with contact if they stop the ball carrier making metres in the collision, attempt to hold the player up, bring them to ground on their back, or turn them 'east-west' (or even south-north if they can achieve it). That's a dominant tackle and they've earned the right to slow the play the ball. Penrith are so freakin' good at this and is a big reason for their dominance over their premiership years.

So for a poster to ignore the context of the tackle when they question why Twal gets penalised but Canberra 'do the same thing', but get away with it, just highlights how much fans don't know about the game they claim to know so much about.

Every second post in this thread during the game is about a ref's decision. It's embarrassing.

The game has been ruined by prominent commentators and the media in general who question officiating decisions every single game. This club's supporters continually play the victim, but referees officiate what they see. On one hand, supporters lament how poor the team's contact and ruck control is, and on the other they harp on about poor treatment from the referees. The reason Wests don't get the same treatment as the good teams is because they are not as good as those teams at winning the ruck! It's been an issue for seasons now, and until the club recruits a couple of aggressive forwards (either tall or with leg speed), and a big focus in training is put on winning the collision in every tackle and controlling the ruck, Wests will continue to be second best in most games.
Rubbish take.

We were clearly winning contact in this match until the point where we just couldn't withstand the dogshit run we were getting with the refs.

This was clear on the eye test and was supported by statistics - first half post contact metres, run metres, distance per set set, tackle busts, all well, well in our favour. We were getting numbers in tackles and swamping the.. When attacking Raiders line their edge defence was clearly up to early. Yet despite all this, we somehow ended up losing set restarts 4-1 in that half.

You can be sanctimonious all you like. However, refs are human and subjective biases are enormous in all elements of life. It is pretty foolish to discount that refs wouldn't be impacted in the small margins we are taking about when it comes to PTB speed.
 
I went to GIO Stadium today.
Few things I noticed…
1. We were very poorly disciplined in the ruck. Ruined our own momentum on more than a few occasions with head highs or holding on too long.
2. For decent passages in that game we were all over them and they were gasping for air but then we’d let them off the hook Ala point 1.
3. Latu and Bula do not straighten our attack as much as I thought they may do. Both of them run on an angle I’d describe as shit….(55-60 degrees) it kills a lot of half chances.
4. Our pigs matched this very good Raiders pack. They really muscled up and had a go. I was proud of them and most Raiders sitting around me were very complimentary of them.
5. We have no idea whatsoever in attack and I mean we have NO FKING IDEA 🤣. We literally throw as much shit at the wall as possible and hope some sticks. There’s no plan, no shape no organisation. No one is leading at all it’s just suck it and see and individual brilliance took advantage on a couple of occasions. Our tactical kicking sucks and again is just ad lib trash.The Raiders had clear plans and you could see their halves directing everything. They executed a bit clumsily but you could certainly see what they were trying to do.
6. Our boys are tough. They play for each other and don’t give in. If we can foster this seize mentality further, they’ll be hard to beat as even though they are running around like headless chooks, they worry the hell out of defences as they just keep coming at you.
7. Ethan Strange is going to be one serious player. I’ve been a fan for a while and talked him up a lot last year but bloody hell, seeing him live is something else. Amazing stamina and determination. Tough as hell….that hit Skelton put on him shook the stadium and he bounced up laughing. Always on the ball and always moving across in cover. Great player.
8. The Viking Clap followed up by the Green Machine is a great advantage to that club. The stadium is pumped and the atmosphere electric. It must be an amazing feeling running out to that.
9. Canberra really celebrated their minor premiership well. They deserved the accolade and most of the crowd stuck around for the presentation of old JJ.
10. The Tigers players all went to the small supporters bay at the southern end after the game and thanked them. It was good to see.
You went to GIO ,must have been one of a handful of Tigers supporters
Thought you lived up north
Respect your views as you obviously watch matches carefully
However don't ever remember you agreeing that Tigers ever got a tough deal by refs .In fact seems you feel we got off lightly in this game !
With pens + 6 agains 16-7 in favour of Canberra hard to imagine how much worse it can be !
One good thing this year
Total matches suspended 2024 19 matches
2025 5 matches ( 1 round to go )
 
We rarely win first contact in defence, so in order to slow the play the ball we have to skate on the edge of the rules, hence the higher penalty count. We do get the raw end of the deal on many occasions, most glaring of which is the disruptor. I would argue you have to make contact with the player catching it or completely block their path without making a play for the ball to be deemed a disruption...for goodness sakes any FB worth his salt should not be put off by a hand waving in the air or be fooled by a player jumping too early.
 
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