LIVE GAME Round 26 v Raiders

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MaudlinTiger said:
Rubbish take.

We were clearly winning contact in this match until the point where we just couldn't withstand the dogshit run we were getting with the refs.

This was clear on the eye test and was supported by statistics - first half post contact metres, run metres, distance per set set, tackle busts, all well, well in our favour. We were getting numbers in tackles and swamping the.. When attacking Raiders line their edge defence was clearly up to early. Yet despite all this, we somehow ended up losing set restarts 4-1 in that half.

You can be sanctimonious all you like. However, refs are human and subjective biases are enormous in all elements of life. It is pretty foolish to discount that refs wouldn't be impacted in the small margins we are taking about when it comes to PTB speed.
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In interesting aside - I was at the game sitting among a sea of green. The consensus from the green side of the house was that the refereeing was poor as well - not because of what he missed but due to his inconsistent interpretations and not allowing the game to flow.

I left the ground feeling deflated because it was one of the worst refereeing performances I have witnessed. That view was held on both sides of the fencw. I the pea blower thought we were all to watch how masterful he was instead fo the game of footy that was trying to be played.
 
Telltails said:
Nup. - have read enough social media and attended enough games in my time - home and away - to know that every club have fans that cry foul at the hand of the referee and we are no different in that regard. We have just had less to cheer about in recent times.
It's every fans right to have the blinkers on at a home game bugger being objective. The atmosphere on the hill was great last week - until it wasnt with 15 to go - and then you could hear a pin drop. Home games are about getting an advantage with the referee and that includes aiming to get the refs attention when looking for an advantage - and there is a percentage of fans from every fan base that have absolutely no objectivity just as parochial as any that are fans of this club.
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Maybe if those on the hill were supporting their team rather than whining constantly, the players may have got a second wind and became spurred on to dig a little deeper and get the job done.
The fact you could hear a pin drop during the Cowboys comeback is EXACTLY my point.
Ever heard of cheering?
 
MaudlinTiger said:
Rubbish take.

We were clearly winning contact in this match until the point where we just couldn't withstand the dogshit run we were getting with the refs.

This was clear on the eye test and was supported by statistics - first half post contact metres, run metres, distance per set set, tackle busts, all well, well in our favour. We were getting numbers in tackles and swamping the.. When attacking Raiders line their edge defence was clearly up to early. Yet despite all this, we somehow ended up losing set restarts 4-1 in that half.

You can be sanctimonious all you like. However, refs are human and subjective biases are enormous in all elements of life. It is pretty foolish to discount that refs wouldn't be impacted in the small margins we are taking about when it comes to PTB speed.
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Yes we were winning contact and then threw that advantage away by holding on WAY too long in tackles.
It was a clear tactic that we still fail to execute professionally.
 
Stevec said:
You went to GIO ,must have been one of a handful of Tigers supporters
Thought you lived up north
Respect your views as you obviously watch matches carefully
However don't ever remember you agreeing that Tigers ever got a tough deal by refs .In fact seems you feel we got off lightly in this game !
With pens + 6 agains 16-7 in favour of Canberra hard to imagine how much worse it can be !
One good thing this year
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Yeah I do live just north of Cairns. I was doing some work at a place near Bungendore and decided to come over to Canberra as I’ve got an apartment there. We were very lucky with the weather on Saturday as Wednesday, Thursday and Friday were complete dog poo.
Of course I think we get screwed at times. That doesn’t negate the majority of cases were we are penalised correctly. It was a very sloppy, stalling type of game, due mainly to our ruck tactics. That was a shame because for large sequences, we were outplaying them and continually gifting them free field position is what caused us to lose.
 
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Jolls said:
In interesting aside - I was at the game sitting among a sea of green. The consensus from the green side of the house was that the refereeing was poor as well - not because of what he missed but due to his inconsistent interpretations and not allowing the game to flow.

I left the ground feeling deflated because it was one of the worst refereeing performances I have witnessed. That view was held on both sides of the fencw. I the pea blower thought we were all to watch how masterful he was instead fo the game of footy that was trying to be played.
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Did the Raiders have to work out of their end even once. A penalty kick to half way every time.
 
Tucker said:
Maybe if those on the hill were supporting their team rather than whining constantly, the players may have got a second wind and became spurred on to dig a little deeper and get the job done.
The fact you could hear a pin drop during the Cowboys comeback is EXACTLY my point.
Ever heard of cheering?
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What, cheer the Cowboys? You're a numbskull.
 
Stevec said:
You went to GIO ,must have been one of a handful of Tigers supporters
Thought you lived up north
Respect your views as you obviously watch matches carefully
However don't ever remember you agreeing that Tigers ever got a tough deal by refs .In fact seems you feel we got off lightly in this game !
With pens + 6 agains 16-7 in favour of Canberra hard to imagine how much worse it can be !
One good thing this year
Total matches suspended 2024 19 matches
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He's got a side hustle down there delivering pizzas.
 
gregjm87 said:
It's a relatively new rule. But has to meet 2 criterias.
-The referee must believe there was no genuine attempt from the chaser to compete for the ball.
- The chaser must in some way interfere with the catchers attempt at catching the ball. Usually you only see contact between the chaser and catcher penalised but essentially something like waving your hand in front of them can be penalized also

Often a chaser will blatantly interfere with the catcher but is considered attempting to compete for the ball so play on. Important to note The refs are not asked to judge the quality of their competing for the ball but if they were genuinely attempting to do so.

As said earlier was out yesterday so haven't seen any of what I was reading were contentious disrupted calls/no calls whatever it was.
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So what you are saying is it's a dumb rule entirely up to very subjective interpretations.
 
jirskyr said:
So what you are saying is it's a dumb rule entirely up to very subjective interpretations.
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I think any rule where you are asked to rule on a players intent makes refereeing very difficult. However it's not the only example.
I also don't like the fact that simply waving your arms around can be considered disruption.
I do however think there is a place for the rule to protect fullbacks from being physically taken out of a contest by a chaser Who is not genuinely competing for the ball.
Finally every rule is entirely up to very subjective interpretations in some way.
 
gregjm87 said:
I think any rule where you are asked to rule on a players intent makes refereeing very difficult. However it's not the only example.
I also don't like the fact that simply waving your arms around can be considered disruption.
I do however think there is a place for the rule to protect fullbacks from being physically taken out of a contest by a chaser Who is not genuinely competing for the ball.
Finally every rule is entirely up to very subjective interpretations in some way.
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100% agree - no foul contact on fullbacks but if you wave your arms or shout or drop your dacks the fullback should be expected to catch the footy.

Only in the school playground should balking be illegal.
 
Too many tries now in the competition from bombs ….although we seem to be behind the trend contesting attacking kicks ..
 
Halbrowne61 said:
Maybe change tries from bombs to 3 points as against 4 by running the ball.
Then we can have the full set, 4-3-2-1 !!!!
Just a thought !
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It’s a tough one …I can admire the skills of the likes of Coates taking spectacular catches in the in goal area …. Is it our game though ? Also this is the exception with many more tries resulting from dropped balls and fluke deflections from knock backs ….

I don’t know how you change it though …. Maybe the attacking player has to catch the ball on the full and can’t tap back ?
 
Tom Shines said:
It’s a tough one …I can admire the skills of the likes of Coates taking spectacular catches in the in goal area …. Is it our game though ? Also this is the exception with many more tries resulting from dropped balls and fluke deflections from knock backs ….

I don’t know how you change it though …. Maybe the attacking player has to catch the ball on the full and can’t tap back ?
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Up until a coach named Gibson and an Easts player named (Peard) the bomb didn’t really exist. Whilst there is some skill involved a try run in after several sets of hands always draws more applause than a bomb.
 
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