Rules and refereeing

[Geo]

ut there was time for the Raiders to kick the penalty goal and he was deemed OK the some 16 tackles later when not even in possession the game was stopped for him to leave the field

That could be a call from the sideline medic however?

Also there might be legitimate cases where the player passes the first on-field assessment but then displays delayed symptoms 5 minutes later.

I see your argument..but feel if it's an act of foul play which is clear cut ..the game is generally stopped while the bunker reviews ..the player was whacked in the head and it doesn't cost the attacking team an interchange the player should come off to get assessed..if everything is sweet they are back on in 10 mins..

You might argue key players would then be targeted but the Ref then has the option to sin bin the offender or worse case send them off altogether..

That is different to a knock on the run..

Would it be possible to take the player to the sideline to do the onfield assessment, have a replacement go straight on, then if he passes the onfiled assessment he goes back on next opportunity to return? Would hopefully mean the game is stopped for less time. Probably wouldn't work though.

^^^^this^^^^ there should be an 18th man for injuries . But once you use it , that’s it . You could even reduce the interchange to 6 , add the 18th man , so basically 7 interchanges . So this type of stuff doesn’t kill the game

I'm not that keen on the 18th man, I love a game where a team is short on players and are fighting exhaustion to win the game. It's probably not pc, but they are stories our game is built on.

Or maybe a game where the single ref is exhausted and makes bad decisions and it costs teams a win?? That's a great game. It's called rugba league. Bet on it (but gamble responsibly).

If a ref gets to a point of exhaustion that he doesn't know the rules ..ie when a decision can be challenged when it's already been made perhaps he shouldn't be a ref..

 

[happy_tiger]

We saw some gradual changes in standards from week 1 in terms of how games were refereed

Don't blame the players ...blame the refs ...they let them get away with it ...was always going to happen

 

[Harvey]

We saw some gradual changes in standards from week 1 in terms of how games were refereed

Don't blame the players ...blame the refs ...they let them get away with it ...was always going to happen

We saw major inconsistencies in week 1. Different referees are interpreting and applying the rule uniquely.

 

[JD Tiger]

We saw some gradual changes in standards from week 1 in terms of how games were refereed

Don't blame the players ...blame the refs ...they let them get away with it ...was always going to happen

Consistently inconsistent.

The one ref strategy has not made anything better. The increased speed in the game (at times) is due to the 6 more rule change (which is also only implemented at different times for different teams). I'll wait and see how it evolves, but at the moment it has done nothing to improve the game.

 

[diedpretty]

Offside is the biggest problem at the moment. One ref cannot watch the ruck and the defensive line and the linesmen seem to be totally oblivious to players standing offside in defence. Parra are the worst offenders. I can't believe the latitude their backline is given at standing offside. Supposedly there is meant to be a crackdown on this part of the game - we will see.

 

[tiger_one]

Offside is the biggest problem at the moment. One ref cannot watch the ruck and the defensive line and the linesmen seem to be totally oblivious to players standing offside in defence. Parra are the worst offenders. I can't believe the latitude their backline is given at standing offside. Supposedly there is meant to be a crackdown on this part of the game - we will see.

Off side is always the responsibility of the linesman.
They simply need to do their job.

 

[diedpretty]

My other grip is the bunker. They seem to pick and choose what they will alert the ref to during the game. The NRL is paying millions for the technology why not use it. The punters watching tv can see glaring mistakes by the referee that could be easily overturned by the bunker. Also the Clockstad ( whatever his name is ) head knock. I saw on tv that he was not right when he got up from the tackle. He could hardly get up then stumbled his way back in to the line. Surely the bunker would have seen that - why didn't they alert the ref to halt play and have him assessed immediately. There is still no consistency in any part of the game.

 

[cochise]

My other grip is the bunker. They seem to pick and choose what they will alert the ref to during the game. The NRL is paying millions for the technology why not use it. The punters watching tv can see glaring mistakes by the referee that could be easily overturned by the bunker. Also the Clockstad ( whatever his name is ) head knock. I saw on tv that he was not right when he got up from the tackle. He could hardly get up then stumbled his way back in to the line. Surely the bunker would have seen that - why didn't they alert the ref to halt play and have him assessed immediately. There is still no consistency in any part of the game.

In regards to the head knock, there are doctors that look at the footage to determine if a player needs to be assessed.

In regard to the bunker, I would prefer it only be used for captain challenges. Get rid of the ref sending a try to the bunker and have that has a captain's challenge as well.

 

[happy_tiger]

Offside is the biggest problem at the moment. One ref cannot watch the ruck and the defensive line and the linesmen seem to be totally oblivious to players standing offside in defence. Parra are the worst offenders. I can't believe the latitude their backline is given at standing offside. Supposedly there is meant to be a crackdown on this part of the game - we will see.

That's the touchies jobs now ...why aren't they calling it as soon as they see it

I'll live with 25 penalties a game and 11 sin bins until the coaches learn to stop messing with the game

But I will reiterate this ...these rules don't suit us ...we don't have the pace anywhere across the board to match it with most sides

 

[diedpretty]

My other grip is the bunker. They seem to pick and choose what they will alert the ref to during the game. The NRL is paying millions for the technology why not use it. The punters watching tv can see glaring mistakes by the referee that could be easily overturned by the bunker. Also the Clockstad ( whatever his name is ) head knock. I saw on tv that he was not right when he got up from the tackle. He could hardly get up then stumbled his way back in to the line. Surely the bunker would have seen that - why didn't they alert the ref to halt play and have him assessed immediately. There is still no consistency in any part of the game.

In regards to the head knock, there are doctors that look at the footage to determine if a player needs to be assessed.

In regard to the bunker, I would prefer it only be used for captain challenges. Get rid of the ref sending a try to the bunker and have that has a captain's challenge as well.

I agree - the problem is at the moment there are times when the ref gets a call and overturns his decision and other times the same thing is let go with no call - either use it or get rid of it.

 

[cochise]

My other grip is the bunker. They seem to pick and choose what they will alert the ref to during the game. The NRL is paying millions for the technology why not use it. The punters watching tv can see glaring mistakes by the referee that could be easily overturned by the bunker. Also the Clockstad ( whatever his name is ) head knock. I saw on tv that he was not right when he got up from the tackle. He could hardly get up then stumbled his way back in to the line. Surely the bunker would have seen that - why didn't they alert the ref to halt play and have him assessed immediately. There is still no consistency in any part of the game.

In regards to the head knock, there are doctors that look at the footage to determine if a player needs to be assessed.

In regard to the bunker, I would prefer it only be used for captain challenges. Get rid of the ref sending a try to the bunker and have that has a captain's challenge as well.

I agree - the problem is at the moment there are times when the ref gets a call and overturns his decision and other times the same thing is let go with no call - either use it or get rid of it.

That's why I say get rid of it, there is no way they will pick up everything and then what they miss leaves a bad impression, leave it up to the players to decide if it needs to be challenged.

 

[diedpretty]

Watching the Newcastle v Brisbane game its blatantly obvious the linesmen are not watching the offside, Both touch judges align themselves with the ruck and the referee stands at the 10 mtr mark. The problem is he watches the ruck as well which allows teams to stand offside all night. The ref should be at the ruck and the touch judges patrolling the 10 mtrs.

 

[Russell]

ut there was time for the Raiders to kick the penalty goal and he was deemed OK the some 16 tackles later when not even in possession the game was stopped for him to leave the field

That could be a call from the sideline medic however?

Also there might be legitimate cases where the player passes the first on-field assessment but then displays delayed symptoms 5 minutes later.

I see your argument..but feel if it's an act of foul play which is clear cut ..the game is generally stopped while the bunker reviews ..the player was whacked in the head and it doesn't cost the attacking team an interchange the player should come off to get assessed..if everything is sweet they are back on in 10 mins..

You might argue key players would then be targeted but the Ref then has the option to sin bin the offender or worse case send them off altogether..

That is different to a knock on the run..

Would it be possible to take the player to the sideline to do the onfield assessment, have a replacement go straight on, then if he passes the onfiled assessment he goes back on next opportunity to return? Would hopefully mean the game is stopped for less time. Probably wouldn't work though.

^^^^this^^^^ there should be an 18th man for injuries . But once you use it , that’s it . You could even reduce the interchange to 6 , add the 18th man , so basically 7 interchanges . So this type of stuff doesn’t kill the game

I'm not that keen on the 18th man, I love a game where a team is short on players and are fighting exhaustion to win the game. It's probably not pc, but they are stories our game is built on.

Or maybe a game where the single ref is exhausted and makes bad decisions and it costs teams a win?? That's a great game. It's called rugba league. Bet on it (but gamble responsibly).

Rugba League is still a better game. Go get 'em V'Landys.

 

[Russell]

Offside is the biggest problem at the moment. One ref cannot watch the ruck and the defensive line and the linesmen seem to be totally oblivious to players standing offside in defence. Parra are the worst offenders. I can't believe the latitude their backline is given at standing offside. Supposedly there is meant to be a crackdown on this part of the game - we will see.

That's the touchies jobs now ...why aren't they calling it as soon as they see it

I'll live with 25 penalties a game and 11 sin bins until the coaches learn to stop messing with the game

But I will reiterate this ...these rules don't suit us ...we don't have the pace anywhere across the board to match it with most sides

If it doesn't suit us, change the game plan or get new players I say.

 

[Russell]

Watching the Newcastle v Brisbane game its blatantly obvious the linesmen are not watching the offside, Both touch judges align themselves with the ruck and the referee stands at the 10 mtr mark. The problem is he watches the ruck as well which allows teams to stand offside all night. The ref should be at the ruck and the touch judges patrolling the 10 mtrs.

The "off side" was just as bad with 2 Referees.

 

[diedpretty]

Watching the Newcastle v Brisbane game its blatantly obvious the linesmen are not watching the offside, Both touch judges align themselves with the ruck and the referee stands at the 10 mtr mark. The problem is he watches the ruck as well which allows teams to stand offside all night. The ref should be at the ruck and the touch judges patrolling the 10 mtrs.

The "off side" was just as bad with 2 Referees.

yea probably - another that irks me is the six again. To me it should be an automatic 6 again when the third man comes in over the top when the player is on the ground, yet i see time and time again that this is happening and no call follows.