Ryan Papenhuyzen

[JayT]

Adam Douhie Daine Laurie halves, Pap FB.

Id prefer that than current

 

[sleeve]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?

 

[DGilly]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?

It seems like common sense to me

 

[hobbo1]

Does anyone seriously think that’s the market we’re in? Didn’t the LM saga resonate?
We are building everything. We need to keep our focus on the Daine Lauries and Harry Grants.

Well one of them is already gone so I don't really rate that strategy

So because you fail at a point in your strategy (can’t sign Harry) you throw the toys out of the cot?
The point I was trying to make is..why go after a $1m established player when we are better suited to a $500k up and comer?

Because the Storm are literally the only club that have ever been able to pull that strategy off. We can't

If we get a 2nd set of books we can compete too. Worth a shot.

We’d balls that up as well ?

 

[sleeve]

I heard his interview. He's a marketable player and I have no doubt he and Munster will be offered huge $ from the Storm.

They will want to keep him no doubt, but even with the brown paper bag there is only so far you can go. I doubt with their roster they can have many dollars to spare. It normally comes down to money.

 

[jirskyr]

Papy $1.1M over two years? Sure thing. Over 1 year? Hell no. Only a handful of players get that, esp with reduced cap post-COVID.

As pointed out we already have a good long-term FB option, what do you do with Papenhuyzen, play him 5/8th?

Also Paps isn't off contract until 2023? Long ways off.

He's one of the best players in the NRL in what universe would he take 550k a year? He's worth every cent of 1.1m. We pay Mbye 900k ffs

Mate salary cap 2021 is $9.9M and you want to spend 11% of that on Ryan Paps who plays in a position we've got covered?

I'm not suggesting he'd ever come for $550K, what I am suggesting is $1.1M would be a farce. What Mbye does or does not earn has nothing to do with it, you don't compare future salaries with the current outgoings of one of your mediocre footballers.

Look at how many players are on 1m+ in the NRL and tell me that 1.1 isn't market value for one of the best players in the entire NRL

There were approx 10 players reported to be on $1M and I am fairly sure all of them were signed pre-COVID, before the salary cap was adjusted for projected revenue loss from a reduced new TV deal.

All players have since taken a pay cut to stay commensurate to the cap reductions - 20% in 2020, 6% in 2021 and 2022. So there may in fact not be any $1M players at this time.

So no, it's not market value and I'm not convinced Papenhuyzen is even in the Top 10 players in the NRL at this time.

And we already have a very strong proposition in the position that Paps plays. Neither Laurie nor Paps are natural halves, you are making a mistake to ham-fistedly shift one of them.

 

[crazycat]

I would take Ryan at 1, not 6 or 7 till he has proven performance there. If he wants to be a wing, sure 2 or 5. But that is it.

Oddly Ryan P was featured as a great defensive 1
Guessing Billy and the storm taught him that.

 

[twentyforty]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?

Sleeve, when was the last time we signed a player for over $1m? Especially one who has left us because their career was going nowhere? How did we go trying to get fox? These players still carry the psychological scars from their first experience at WT. 😂 If we offered $1.1m to Paps, he would take less to play at a club where the D line is tighter than a fish’s rs. Our guy is doing 12 tackles per game, Paps is lucky to do one at Storm. His role would be different at WT, and almost guaranteed not to get another Churchill.
I can see the strategy adopted since Madge’s arrival working, but taking time. The club has identified the missing skill sets and is hiring accordingly. Our priority should be team building, not looking for the next Jesus Christ. I see players like BJ and Tamou give up on the team. The old heads are getting paid regardless of their level of discretionary effort. I say keep giving opportunities to players with limited opportunity but who have the skills we’re looking for. We want the Ferrari that doesn’t get driven on Sundays. The challenge for Madge is keeping the Laurie’s up while recruiting more Lauries.

 

[sleeve]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?


Sleeve, when was the last time we signed a player for over $1m? Especially one who has left us because their career was going nowhere? How did we go trying to get fox? These players still carry the psychological scars from their first experience at WT. ? If we offered $1.1m to Paps, he would take less to play at a club where the D line is tighter than a fish’s rs. Our guy is doing 12 tackles per game, Paps is lucky to do one at Storm. His role would be different at WT, and almost guaranteed not to get another Churchill.
I can see the strategy adopted since Madge’s arrival working, but taking time. The club has identified the missing skill sets and is hiring accordingly. Our priority should be team building, not looking for the next Jesus Christ. I see players like BJ and Tamou give up on the team. The old heads are getting paid regardless of their level of discretionary effort. I say keep giving opportunities to players with limited opportunity but who have the skills we’re looking for. We want the Ferrari that doesn’t get driven on Sundays. The challenge for Madge is keeping the Laurie’s up while recruiting more Lauries.

I see where your at 20/40, but outside of Laurie, we would be lucky for anyone in our backline being offered a position in any other side. We seriously lack strike in the backs, and there is little quality on the market. I thought the same as you, but now think that stratagey would take to long. One or two buys like Paps would lift the side. BUT NOT PLAYERS AT CAREERS END.

 

[BAGNF05]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?


Sleeve, when was the last time we signed a player for over $1m? Especially one who has left us because their career was going nowhere? How did we go trying to get fox? These players still carry the psychological scars from their first experience at WT. ? If we offered $1.1m to Paps, he would take less to play at a club where the D line is tighter than a fish’s rs. Our guy is doing 12 tackles per game, Paps is lucky to do one at Storm. His role would be different at WT, and almost guaranteed not to get another Churchill.
I can see the strategy adopted since Madge’s arrival working, but taking time. The club has identified the missing skill sets and is hiring accordingly. Our priority should be team building, not looking for the next Jesus Christ. I see players like BJ and Tamou give up on the team. The old heads are getting paid regardless of their level of discretionary effort. I say keep giving opportunities to players with limited opportunity but who have the skills we’re looking for. We want the Ferrari that doesn’t get driven on Sundays. The challenge for Madge is keeping the Laurie’s up while recruiting more Lauries.

I see where your at 20/40, but outside of Laurie, we would be lucky for anyone in our backline being offered a position in any other side. We seriously lack strike in the backs, and there is little quality on the market. I thought the same as you, but now think that stratagey would take to long. One or two buys like Paps would lift the side. BUT NOT PLAYERS AT CAREERS END.

On or off the field we need a circuit breaker signing. A drawcard.

 

[twentyforty]

We have Packer,Mbye and previously JR all over $800.000 signed years ago. Some want an old souths 1/2 who will probably want 3yrs at $700,000 a year. Bj is i believe is on even more. With BJ and Packer going why would you not go big for Paps ?


Sleeve, when was the last time we signed a player for over $1m? Especially one who has left us because their career was going nowhere? How did we go trying to get fox? These players still carry the psychological scars from their first experience at WT. ? If we offered $1.1m to Paps, he would take less to play at a club where the D line is tighter than a fish’s rs. Our guy is doing 12 tackles per game, Paps is lucky to do one at Storm. His role would be different at WT, and almost guaranteed not to get another Churchill.
I can see the strategy adopted since Madge’s arrival working, but taking time. The club has identified the missing skill sets and is hiring accordingly. Our priority should be team building, not looking for the next Jesus Christ. I see players like BJ and Tamou give up on the team. The old heads are getting paid regardless of their level of discretionary effort. I say keep giving opportunities to players with limited opportunity but who have the skills we’re looking for. We want the Ferrari that doesn’t get driven on Sundays. The challenge for Madge is keeping the Laurie’s up while recruiting more Lauries.

I see where your at 20/40, but outside of Laurie, we would be lucky for anyone in our backline being offered a position in any other side. We seriously lack strike in the backs, and there is little quality on the market. I thought the same as you, but now think that stratagey would take to long. One or two buys like Paps would lift the side. BUT NOT PLAYERS AT CAREERS END.

On or off the field we need a circuit breaker signing. A drawcard.

Bags, Sleeve, I fully appreciate the point, and a circuit breaker would give the joint a lift if it were possible. I just can’t see it happening given current circumstances. The club has adopted a method of player valuation which , while competitive, is easily outbid. If we’re putting in lower bids there has to be another attraction, which we don’t have at this time. I pray for the day Braith stops complaining about having to buy his own dencorub ?, but it wont happen overnight or even in the lifespan of a circuit breaker? I think there’s something very wrong with the club when players aren’t prepared to get involved in the game. It would be a double tragedy waiting to unfold if we were to commit so much of our cap before fixing whatever it is?
Whatever it is, it can’t be fixed by getting rid of one person.

 

[PJ_]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

 

[Tigerboy]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

You can hand them to me... I’ll work it out

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

Adam?

 

[PJ_]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

Adam?

Doueihi (spelling?)

 

[hank37w]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

Yeah, the keys to the old Balmain Leagues club.

Doubt that he'll be coming back.

 

[sleeve]

My point again, Laurie is doing well at FB, and would not move him at the present time. I believe he also likes 5/8. If (and its a remote possibility) we got Paps at FB, Laurie at 5/8, Doeihie at centre, we should still have the dollars for a lock, and maybe a center and winger. Many side cashed up at years end, and not many quality players on the market, and buys like Laurie will be hard to find. I like the Penrith model of bringing through the young guys, but with a new side soon to come it will be even harder to get talent. FB and halves along with dh are crucial , and theres no decent halves around. BJs money plus $$ is not a risk.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Does anyone seriously think that’s the market we’re in? Didn’t the LM saga resonate?
We are building everything. We need to keep our focus on the Daine Lauries and Harry Grants.

Well one of them is already gone so I don't really rate that strategy

So because you fail at a point in your strategy (can’t sign Harry) you throw the toys out of the cot?
The point I was trying to make is..why go after a $1m established player when we are better suited to a $500k up and comer?

Because the Storm are literally the only club that have ever been able to pull that strategy off. We can't

If we get a 2nd set of books we can compete too. Worth a shot.

We’d balls that up as well ?

For sure we would. Cheating is worth a shot though, hasn't seemed to hurt the Storm or Sharks too much. Would be a bad stain as a fan to shake, but partying for a week or 2 after the GF would be pretty good. Taking the title off us after that wouldn't matter too much.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Adam came back, why not Paps?
Throw everything we have at him if he's able to negotiate??
Give him the keys to the leagues club and the COE

Adam?

Doueihi (spelling?)

Ah yes of course!