Sacked Tim Sheens ponders taking Tigers to court for $1m

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@Tigerpete said:
@mtd said:
@Tigerpete said:
Got to admit, whilst not surprised for one moment. I'm pretty dissapointed at Sheens for the alleged legal action in regards to his payout. As many have already suggested. For a guy who seemed pretty happy to treat a contract like toilet paper when it came to players. It's kind of hard to take now that the shoes on the other foot and he's not happy.

I'm not surprised by this and the truth is he is entitled to do so, but it's hardly paints him in a good light really. I did have sympathy for him previously but not now. Basically he screwed with players contracts like it was okay but when it happened to him he didn't approve? Sorry tim, go jump!

who did he screw out of a contract? Pretty sure ur ill Informed
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Mate, it was a throwaway line. Sheens hasn't screwed with anyone's contract in that nature. Infact at the end of the day, the players i refer to….Gibbs, Fifita, Ryan and Heighington left after everything, on their own terms. But what irks me about Sheens' behaviour now is that the very same thing he helped orchestrate, is now happening to him. The club don't want him and he's playing hardball with them. Which he is still entitled to do. Remember this though, As much as those 4 players accepted offers to go elsewhere, they only did so because they were told they were unwanted and not in the plans of Sheens. Moving was not their preferred option.

I'm not suggesting Sheens should walk without a cent. He deserves better than that. I think though that this should be played out with a let's meet halfway approach. Afterall, Sheens did say he would walk if we failed. The club itself should honour it's end too. Afterall they did take the step of resigning him ahead of time.

Aint sheens that does contracts,its Humphreys.Of which he gave tim three years too many.Not tim but Humpty.
 
@LaT said:
@innsaneink said:
@LaT said:
Sheens publicly promised to leave if we didn't make the finals in 2010\. There has never been another actual confirmed time where he said it.

"Tim told people at the club that he would step down if the team failed to reach the finals," a well-placed Tigers source said.
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"That's now happened, and there's a feeling that he should uphold his word."
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The statement was never made at board level, nor is it contractually binding.
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Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/wests-tigers-coach-tim-sheens-promised-to-leave-club-if-they-failed-to-qualify-for-nrl-finals-source/story-fn2mcuj6-1226479339338#ixzz29MKyhWuQ

So one article approx a month ago said this. And nothing since. Can we move the likely hood of this having been said into the "probably BS" area yet? I'd love for it to be true, but how long can you cling to hope off 1 article a month ago?

**How is it any diff to the Parish fave, Walters now favourite, Sheens to sue for $1m etc etc etc threads all based on media spec?**
The club says bugger all.
There is the media, and the forum scoops…thats all we have to go on.

As I said, if Humpty had learnt by now not to have multiple ?????'s surrounding key decisions at the club with no definitive answers for the club...the media just make it up, its usually negative and puts the club in a bad light, not good for anyone concerend

and even if it were legit, it seems nothings in writing so its all just a talking point, but go on....you and MTD go right ahead and make a mountain out of this molehill once again

**<big>Its different because you spent the best part of a few pages arguing that it was fact.</big>** Its clearly speculation and given we haven't heard boo about it since that one article, maybe we should start to treat it with some apprehension?

When I post about Parish or payouts etc I try to link where it came from and leave a bit about the likely hood of it being true.

Whats the use in people demanding absolute proof about some things yet hold up 1 article with no real information and claim it as fact? The standards have fallen right off in here.

Sorry
Wrong.
Yet again.
Please dont attribute your fabricated BS to me!!! :angry:
 
@mtd said:
@innsaneink said:
and even if it were legit, it seems nothings in writing so its all just a talking point, but go on….you and MTD go right ahead and make a mountain out of this molehill once again

the fundamentals are the same, they are both 'the word of a man'… there is no difference (apart from marshals being on the public record and sheens's office gossip), i don't get how you don't see it.. im trying to understand the logic behind what your saying, i just cant see it...

the only one making a mountain out of a molehill here is you.. your holding onto comments (that may or not be true) and pushing them across the forum like they are fact, expecting a guy to walk away from close to a million bucks.

I explained it already in the other thread

Its not Benjis word….get that thru your head, it was a clause in his deal.

Benji "I **WANT** to play under no one but sheens"
Sheens (apparently) "I **WILL** walk away if we miss the semis"

What Marshall says is his desire....its not all in his control, salary caps, new clubs, player rosters...all have a say there
What Sheens apparently said only concerns him, he CAN do what he said he would.
Nothing stopping him but him.

Its not that difficult a concept to grasp...very simple really
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**pushing them across the forum like they are fact,**
Errr...no....you too are twisting BS my way....at no stage did I ever say it was fact, never did I allude to that.
Find a comment and prove me wrong.
You wont!!
 
@Defiant said:
The NRL grant is now in doubt was the point.

It is possible that ch9 will not be able to cough up the money.

Possible but unlikely. Ch 9 have already paid a pretty hefty down payment and without NRL they'd have a massive black hole in their schedule. The current Ch 9 ownership might be stuffed but there are only 3 FTA channels in the country. Someone will want what they have.
 
Watching channel 9 news tonite, indicated that if chan 9 is not 'bought out' in next 48 hours then they can go into receivership and NRL TV deal is terminated.
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Alrighty, this thread is going to take a turn for the worse unless some members stop getting personal with one another. The childish arguing stops now, or this thread ends.
 
benny elias should pay tim out benny has cost the WT heaps when making decisions if the magpies should choose to go alone who could blame them currently the magpies have licensed clubs west ashfield ,west luemeah and tennis club and the camden resort golf club also lake side golf club and the cambelltown golf club yet are a mere token in the franchise whereas balmain is based at fivedock bowling club a minnow in cash benefit.
 
@wtfl1981 said:
Watching channel 9 news tonite, indicated that if chan 9 is not 'bought out' in next 48 hours then they can go into receivership and NRL TV deal is terminated.
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I'm inclined to claim sensationalism, but if that is true, it's a massive kick in the teeth for the NRL.
 
if Tim Sheens does actually engage solicitors, well its his decision. ,

if a lump sum payment can not be made, pay him off over the two years.

like other clubs pay a players contract for a period of time, who is not with them

wouldn't that be better for all concerned.
 
@willow said:
Alrighty, this thread is going to take a turn for the worse unless some members stop getting personal with one another. The childish arguing stops now, or this thread ends.

arguing/debating is part of a forum, if we all agreed on everything there'd be no purpose for it and it would cease to exist.. we are not here to blow smoke up each others behinds and tell each other how much we love each…take a chill pill man.
_*edit, the rest wasnt worth it :slight_smile:_
 
insane, my point is you would find something negative about sheens's decison whether he walked away or stayed… "im glad sheens left, but whatever happeend to the good old days when a man would honour his contract". i dont need to track down your posts, your bias is obvious. confirmed word vs rumoured word.. yet the rumoured word seems to hold more weight in your head, probably cause oyu dont want to lose benji but dislike sheens... anyawy i'll leave it there before we get other ppls nickers in a knot.
 
@mtd said:
insane, my point is you would find something negative about sheens's decison whether he walked away or stayed… "im glad sheens left, but whatever happeend to the good old days when a man would honour his contract". i dont need to track down your posts, your bias is obvious. confirmed word vs rumoured word.. yet the rumoured word seems to hold more weight in your head, probably cause oyu dont want to lose benji but dislike sheens... anyawy i'll leave it there before we get other ppls nickers in a knot.

I make no secret of or attempt to hide any bias…yes I do not like Sheens or Humpreys....

You know what really annoys me though?

Its when people like you and Lat say things like this:

@MTD said:
your holding onto comments (that may or not be true) and **pushing them across the forum like they are fact**, expecting a guy to walk away from close to a million bucks.

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@LaT said:
Its different because **you spent the best part of a few pages arguing that it was fact.**

Despite me posting this below very early on in the other thread….and you guys continuing to post the BS above.

@ink said:
You do know we are talking**_hypothetically_**, dont you??

**It was widely reported a few weeks back…for whatever its worth...we all know the media make up crap, but theres also some fact in amongst the dung, sorting it is the tricky part\
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We take the media as serious as we want to ...its a personal thing, do you really believe anyone really swallows everything they say, youre surely not that naive?**

But I still maintain if youre prepared to say something, follow thru with it
http://www.weststigersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15518&start=18

You both coincidentally - hmmmmm

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either misinterpreted what I said, or totally ignored it
 
http://www.nrl.com/clubs-to-receive-…0/default.aspx

NRL.com Wed, Oct 17, 2012 - 6:00 PM

The NRL has today negotiated for the Nine Network to make a $30million funding payment under the new broadcasting agreement.

In turn $8m is being distributed across the sixteen NRL clubs this evening delivering on an agreement made between the ARL Commissioners and the clubs last year to provide a 2012 television rights bonus if practical. The payment comes after an intensive week of negotiations with the Nine Network which has resulted in the ‘long-form’ television rights agreement being sufficiently resolved to allow the payment. “From the moment we signed the Heads of Agreement with our broadcast partners we have been working towards providing this payment to the clubs,” ARLC Interim Chief Executive, Mr Shane Mattiske, said today.

“This afternoon we reached a point where Nine was sufficiently comfortable to make the payment. This is just the start of the benefits the new broadcast rights deal will provide to the game’s stakeholders over the term of the agreement but it is a significant step for the clubs. At the same time it is a reflection of the positive partnership between the Commission and Channel Nine who have demonstrated the Rugby League is a key priority for the network. It is important now that we finalise discussions around future club funding and that we address the Collective Bargaining Agreement. We are already in the process of confirming our next round of meetings with the players and the RLPA.”
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That should help :slight_smile:
 
Let it go insane. You are right, you are always right, never wrong etc. The authoritah has been felt. An open and friendly environment has been fostered…
 

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