Salary Cap

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Guilty anyway - is that right?

I never said he was guilty. Just stating the facts.

Why, do you have problems with the facts?

Well I don't - why put a guy in a list of guilty people who was found NOT guilty.
It means he is no more guilty than you.

Oh! never mind I give up… you just don't get it. Lol

I get it Russ.

Not fair to put Laffranchi in a list of dodgy persons when he wasn't convicted of anything. It's like saying Brett Stewart is a crook even though he was exonerated.

Brett Stewart…wouldn't trust him with my daughter or my ATM pin number....the Guy just looks dodgy...and one of those characters that nothing seems to stick on him, but he still smells like a rat.
 
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I never said he was guilty. Just stating the facts.

Why, do you have problems with the facts?

Well I don't - why put a guy in a list of guilty people who was found NOT guilty.
It means he is no more guilty than you.

Oh! never mind I give up… you just don't get it. Lol

I get it Russ.

Not fair to put Laffranchi in a list of dodgy persons when he wasn't convicted of anything. It's like saying Brett Stewart is a crook even though he was exonerated.

Brett Stewart…wouldn't trust him with my daughter or my ATM pin number....the Guy just looks dodgy...and one of those characters that nothing seems to stick on him, but he still smells like a rat.

Oh well! nothing to be done but put him before a firing squad.
 
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I never said he was guilty. Just stating the facts.

Why, do you have problems with the facts?

Well I don't - why put a guy in a list of guilty people who was found NOT guilty.
It means he is no more guilty than you.

Oh! never mind I give up… you just don't get it. Lol

I get it Russ.

Not fair to put Laffranchi in a list of dodgy persons when he wasn't convicted of anything. It's like saying Brett Stewart is a crook even though he was exonerated.

Brett Stewart…wouldn't trust him with my daughter or my ATM pin number....the Guy just looks dodgy...and one of those characters that nothing seems to stick on him, but he still smells like a rat.

Who exactly would you trust with your PIN?
 
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Geez thats a tough call

Craig Field - Manslaughter
John Hoppoata - the proctologist and thug
Tim Simona - Charity thief
**<big>Anthony Laffranchi - Charged with rape but charges dropped</big>**
Todd Payton - Desecration of a War Memorial
Benny Elias - Dodgy business dealings
Mark O'Neil - sexual harassment in the work place

Probably many more - I know some of these were not committed when playing for the WT's but they are still linked to the club

Every Team has its bad eggs

Guilty anyway - is that right?

I never said he was guilty. Just stating the facts.

Why, do you have problems with the facts?

Well I don't - why put a guy in a list of guilty people who was found NOT guilty.
It means he is no more guilty than you.

Oh! never mind I give up… you just don't get it. Lol

Hey Russell

The point I was making was that it put the club in a bad light and as Innsaneink says mud sticks and the club suffers for it. I never said he was guilty, I was purely stating the facts. This is the sort of thing that stops sponsors and TPA's coming into a club.
 
So for me it boils down to a couple of options;

$$ Salary Cap/TPA's - not overly complicated but hardly a level playing field club Vs club.
Points Cap - Complicated but fairer for club Vs club.

So for me, it's a no-brainer, the points system would be the way to go.

Yes, it's been seen as being subjective but most certainly there would be a fair and reasonable way to quantify the value of any player. There is always means to quantify in my experience.

In the least, if we stay with a salary cap/TPA system, the publishing of contracts would help.
 
The WT website has a story about Justin Pascoe doing a school visit talking about the importance of maths. The salary cap is used as an example of the importance of maths to a football club. So glad Justin was able to explain the salary cap to the little ones.
 
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So for me it boils down to a couple of options;

$$ Salary Cap/TPA's - not overly complicated but hardly a level playing field club Vs club.
Points Cap - Complicated but fairer for club Vs club.

So for me, it's a no-brainer, the points system would be the way to go.

Yes, it's been seen as being subjective but most certainly there would be a fair and reasonable way to quantify the value of any player. There is always means to quantify in my experience.

In the least, if we stay with a salary cap/TPA system, the publishing of contracts would help.

I think we have to be talking simple stuff:
Marquee allowance. I.e. one superstar per team. This should stop Melbourne and co from getting 3 awesome players as I know that one of the other clubs would have offered Cronk or Slater a BFC to sign on. Maybe this could be capped, but capped very highly.
Then a points cap, however let players diminish points the longer they play for a club. I am SICK TO DEATH of clubs having to punt their favourite players. It seems the incentive is for young talent to move rather then stay put and stick it in. It could only be a small reduction, maybe 1% of the players salary is cap free per year they stay but we need less flight school in player movements.
 
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The WT website has a story about Justin Pascoe doing a school visit talking about the importance of maths. The salary cap is used as an example of the importance of maths to a football club. So glad Justin was able to explain the salary cap to the little ones.

I saw Nick Politis do the same presentation. I missed something there as could not work out at the end how 30 players on an average of 500k worked out to the 9m they are allowed to spend on the cap. He lost me at the fairies and unicorns that magically deliver money to players that sign for good clubs
 
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I get it Russ.

Not fair to put Laffranchi in a list of dodgy persons when he wasn't convicted of anything. It's like saying Brett Stewart is a crook even though he was exonerated.

Brett Stewart…wouldn't trust him with my daughter or my ATM pin number....the Guy just looks dodgy...and one of those characters that nothing seems to stick on him, but he still smells like a rat.

Leave the guy alone. If he has committed an assault, throw him in jail. However if he has had an attention seeking person make up silly story (which appears to be the case and what the court has found), Leave him alone.

Oh the guy looks dodgy, :unamused: He was almost at Slaters level and should have been our Origin fullback for the last 8 years. Instead he has had to suffer because someone who was dodgy made up stories.
 
If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.
 
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If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.

I heard Bryan Fletcher explaining it on the grill team the other morning. They have lost a load of players that were taking up room under the cap. Kenny-Dowall, Guerra, Evans, Watson, Copley, RTS, SBW, Dally Messenger…
 
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If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.

I heard Bryan Fletcher explaining it on the grill team the other morning. They have lost a load of players that were taking up room under the cap. Kenny-Dowall, Guerra, Evans, Watson, Copley, RTS, SBW, Dally Messenger…

We lost Woods, Moses and Tedesco, all players brought through the juniors and developed by our club (all on very good contracts). Publicly the NRL has not offered a comment about changes to the salary cap to compensate clubs, especially those who produce local juniors, when poached by richer clubs. I bet Fletcher didn't want to touch this issue especially since Radcliffe is the first local junior his club has brought through to NRL since 2012?
 
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If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.

I heard Bryan Fletcher explaining it on the grill team the other morning. They have lost a load of players that were taking up room under the cap. Kenny-Dowall, Guerra, Evans, Watson, Copley, RTS, SBW, Dally Messenger…

But they have also upgraded and re-signed a bunch of their players for more money then their previous contracts

Surely Geurra, Evans, SKD, Knight, Carter, Watson, Copely and Hastings combines aren't worth more than the 2 million dollar per season Cronk and Tedesco.

Half of those players wouldn't been on more than a base contract.

Throw in upgrades to Mitchell, Butcher, Collins, Manu and Nikorima.

The NRL can't possibly say it is an even playing field if they manage to get Cronk.
 
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If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.

I heard Bryan Fletcher explaining it on the grill team the other morning. They have lost a load of players that were taking up room under the cap. Kenny-Dowall, Guerra, Evans, Watson, Copley, RTS, SBW, Dally Messenger…

But they have also upgraded and re-signed a bunch of their players for more money then their previous contracts

Surely Geurra, Evans, SKD, Knight, Carter, Watson, Copely and Hastings combines aren't worth more than the 2 million dollar per season Cronk and Tedesco.

Half of those players wouldn't been on more than a base contract.

**Throw in upgrades to Mitchell, Butcher, Collins, Manu and Nikorima.**

The NRL can't possibly say it is an even playing field if they manage to get Cronk.

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How much more did they pay them..?
 
Just read an article that the Bulldogs are cap compliant and the NRL have signed off on Woods and Foran. I don't recall reading of them letting anybody go other than Graham and Reynolds?

Am I missing something or is this just another scar on the face of the NRL salary cap?
 
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Just read an article that the Bulldogs are cap compliant and the NRL have signed off on Woods and Foran. I don't recall reading of them letting anybody go other than Graham and Reynolds?

Am I missing something or is this just another scar on the face of the NRL salary cap?

No, you missed nothing. Greenburg before NRL boss was Dogs boss, and he was sweeping stuff under the carpet back then. Remember Ben Barba and his domestic violence allegations, that happened a year before it came out, Greenburg had done a great job in trying to cover that up.

Dogs just repositioned the chairs around the table, nothing to see here. Like the Roosters, Sharks, Broncos, Cows, Storm.

Seriously, it's an absolute miracle if we can compete.
 
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Just read an article that the Bulldogs are cap compliant and the NRL have signed off on Woods and Foran. I don't recall reading of them letting anybody go other than Graham and Reynolds?

Am I missing something or is this just another scar on the face of the NRL salary cap?

No, you missed nothing. Greenburg before NRL boss was Dogs boss, and he was sweeping stuff under the carpet back then. Remember Ben Barba and his domestic violence allegations, that happened a year before it came out, Greenburg had done a great job in trying to cover that up.

Dogs just repositioned the chairs around the table, nothing to see here. Like the Roosters, Sharks, Broncos, Cows, Storm.

Seriously, it's an absolute miracle if we can compete.

I have my doubts on Greenberg, but it makes you wonder what type of legacy he is going to leave on the NRL. He won't care his bank balance continues to grow but it is a concern.

Greenberg's predesessor Smith wasn't popular and may not have known player names but he certainly wasn't pandering to the big clubs.
 
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If there really is a salary cap and all clubs abide by it then why can easts afford Teddy and Cronk along with their other superstars.

Why? Because it's broken! TPA's allow the roosters to pay Teddy less then our offer and get our fullback.
Fifita was almost going to be paid on TPA's alone at the Dogs (he would have made them a top 4 team for sure).

I can't think of too many solutions. A single player Marquee allowance may be one way, at least the 16 best players will be spread among the 16 teams. Factoring TPA's into the cap is a great idea (i.e. they count as a 75% cap excess).

The NRL needs to come up with a solution, and we need to scream at the cheats till they sort themselves out.
 

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