Save Our Sides Protest Rally - SUN 05FEB11
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@galahs said:
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**The merger has meant Wests Tigers have needed to spend up to $1 million annually to support two NSW Cup teams.**
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Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys said last night that junior development programs needed to be a higher priority than running two State Cup sides.
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"In my opinion Wests Balmain and Wests Tigers spend an inordinate amount of time, money and effort on the NSW Cup, and I believe we'd all be far better off if some of that time, effort and money was redirected into the junior leagues and junior development programs," he said.
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"I've expressed that view to the Wests Tigers directors."
SNAP!
I don't think it's $1,000,000 Chriso, I think it said they spend close to that for both sides. One would assume it would be half… Or a bit less than as none of the NRL players are turning out for Wests.
But you are right, Our CEO is spot on.. What's the point, 2 State Cup sides in reality doesn't give us more players to choose from.
When all is said and done there will only EVER be a select few players to graduate from State Cup, Why all those players cant be in the second 25 is beyond me...
I'm with you, Despite what is said... This seems more about the Magpies than the Greater area.
I don't believe any Kids playing footy in the area dream of playing Magpies, Furthermore... I can't believe (As much as I would like) That they all want to play for Wests Tigers.
But you are right, Our CEO is spot on.. What's the point, 2 State Cup sides in reality doesn't give us more players to choose from.
When all is said and done there will only EVER be a select few players to graduate from State Cup, Why all those players cant be in the second 25 is beyond me...
I'm with you, Despite what is said... This seems more about the Magpies than the Greater area.
I don't believe any Kids playing footy in the area dream of playing Magpies, Furthermore... I can't believe (As much as I would like) That they all want to play for Wests Tigers.
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@Chris said:
The big picture is cost reduction. It reduces the costs of Wests Tigers and therefore, the potential liability of the two joint venture partners.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@Chris said:
Cut costs by $1m? Damn easy sell to half of the directors whose benefactor is losing truckloads.
Who paid Junior Moors, Andrew Fifita, Geoff Daniela and the like to play for the Magpies in 2010?
It may not be Direct access to funds… But I would classify it as some sort of support!!
Wests Tigers aren't killing the Magpies, How do you get this perception.
Severing ties with some any type of arrangement, Doesn't nessecarily mean death!!
Wests Tigers are stronger now than ever, If them and thier sponsors can't see the point in having a back up squad for the back up squad... Regardless of tradition and emotion, How can you argue with it.
I can appreciate the new Magpies board wants to reconnect to WT, But does that mean WT's automatically has to relinquish all the hard work, ground work and planning that has been done over the past couple of years to move forward as a buisness JUST BECAUSE the Magpies have now decided that there isn't as many rainbows on the path they chose by not co-operating with WT's strategy previously???
It may not be Direct access to funds… But I would classify it as some sort of support!!
Wests Tigers aren't killing the Magpies, How do you get this perception.
Severing ties with some any type of arrangement, Doesn't nessecarily mean death!!
Wests Tigers are stronger now than ever, If them and thier sponsors can't see the point in having a back up squad for the back up squad... Regardless of tradition and emotion, How can you argue with it.
I can appreciate the new Magpies board wants to reconnect to WT, But does that mean WT's automatically has to relinquish all the hard work, ground work and planning that has been done over the past couple of years to move forward as a buisness JUST BECAUSE the Magpies have now decided that there isn't as many rainbows on the path they chose by not co-operating with WT's strategy previously???
@galahs said:
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From my reading of the situation
Wests Tigers likely have a major sponsor lined up as part of the sponsorship suite for next season (possibly even the 2012 season) which will cover the operating costs of a combined WT branded State Cup side.
The WT will now be handling the funding given to NSW Cup by all current contributors and using that money to pay for existing scholarships, setting up new scholarships and running the junior leagues in a fashion to benefit the children actually playing league.
WT seems to actually be getting ahead of the curve in preparation for the National Reserve Grade comp touted as coming out of the funding in the next TV rights deal.
As such the entireity of the second tier cap and the salaries of the part timers will no longer have to come out of the WT existing revenue stream but will be covered.
I would have thought that the Wests Tigers coming in to administrate the Junior Leagues would have gone a long way to achiving your purpose of clear pathways and a competent administration. Guess I read that wrong
Wests Tigers likely have a major sponsor lined up as part of the sponsorship suite for next season (possibly even the 2012 season) which will cover the operating costs of a combined WT branded State Cup side.
The WT will now be handling the funding given to NSW Cup by all current contributors and using that money to pay for existing scholarships, setting up new scholarships and running the junior leagues in a fashion to benefit the children actually playing league.
WT seems to actually be getting ahead of the curve in preparation for the National Reserve Grade comp touted as coming out of the funding in the next TV rights deal.
As such the entireity of the second tier cap and the salaries of the part timers will no longer have to come out of the WT existing revenue stream but will be covered.
I would have thought that the Wests Tigers coming in to administrate the Junior Leagues would have gone a long way to achiving your purpose of clear pathways and a competent administration. Guess I read that wrong
I'd have thought the same Smeg. If Wt's is watching over the kids from 5on, Surely there is a bigger chance they will end up in WT's Jersey!! It's hardly rocket science.
On another note, You have the likes of Warren McD heading to Rankin Springs to pick up a kid like Matt Groat, To bring him to Sydney and get him into the System out there, I fail to see how that ISN'T supporting the football from the region??
On another note, You have the likes of Warren McD heading to Rankin Springs to pick up a kid like Matt Groat, To bring him to Sydney and get him into the System out there, I fail to see how that ISN'T supporting the football from the region??
GNR4LIFE
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The last couple pages reads as though people with a Balmain background are dancing on the Magpies grave over this decision. Very disappointing
@Chris said:
Where are you getting $500,000 from.
They don't give us a cent.
We run our NSW Cup team on a budget of around $250,000 given to us from Wests Ashfield Leagues club.
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So where were these figures quoted from Wests Tigers from. They made them up to make their case sound stronger.
Wake up people!
but I do love how you all believe what Wests Tigers want you to believe. :sign:
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@GNR4LIFE said:
I am not dancing over anything.
I have said for a fair while now that the best move forward is one WT State Cup branded team and Balmain and Western Suburbs retain their identities to feed HM & SG Ball as in my belief this provides the clearest path of development when taking into consideration the NYC competition
@galahs said:
The money comes from somewhere, If it comes from somewhere it definately exists in the corporate structure of the club!!
If it exists in the corporate structure of the club and they have found a better way to spend it…. What can you do??
Sad as it is, It's all about value for dollar.... And Maybe Wests Ashfield can't justify the value for dollar is standing behind the failing Magpie Brand?
As sad as it is... I love going to watch the Maggies play, WT's take on the matter makes perfect sense!!
@galahs said:
Are you assuming that Wests Ashfield fund the side because of the Value of the Magpie Brand, Or because of the link to the Wests Tigers… I think you will find it's the latter.
Club sponsorship is for the benefit of the Club.... They need something for thier money, What is the Magpies supplying them for thier outlay?
Why isn't Wests Campbelltown funding the side? They are right there, Play the games next door etc, etc...
Ashfield is closer to Leichhardt than Campbelltown....
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