SBS journalist sacked

All I know is these threads always leave me feeling like CB's Avatar…

Respect both sides...it's opinion after all...Perhaps if you didn't belittle people for having a different opinion to yours Jerry things may end better...

P.S, We'll have Lazers by then Happy...we'll be sweet...
 
@Tony33 said:
War always has been and always will be for the materialistic benefit of the waring nations.

WW1
WW2
War in Iraq

All were as a result of the instigators fighting for resources and power.

I don't buy this whole fighting for our protection and freedom crap.

In the last year when there has been a need for a war or protection of people ( threat of ISIS) these so called fighters for peace, freedom and democracy have gone missing. If that isn't proof then I don't know what is..

Yes but the instigators of WW1,WW2 and Iraq were all defeated by those not fighting for resources or power.You must not watch much media outlets Tony if you dont believe the ISIS threat isnt now being fought by many around the world unfortunately they were just about twenty years too late.
 
@happy tiger said:
Hey CB , would you be able to attach the story ?? Sounds very interesting

I just thank God we have never had to defend our country v a serious war machine intent on taking us over

Unfortunately it will happen , not in our generation , but probably in our great grandkids generation

Whether you agree whether we should of been on the Turkish soil or not , it was a time that changed Australia forever

Celebrate the day the way you want to , don't let someone try and change your beliefs either way

And if you want to blame someone for the Gallipoli campaign , blame Winston Churchill , it was his brain child

Actually just got off the computer. I will look it up and post it when the wife is finished with it. I'll post the War Memorial story while I'm at it mate.

He was 13 and 11 months when he signed up. Met up with his father in Egypt for his 14th birthday.

_Posted using RoarFEED Android 1.2.3_
 
And there we have it ,,,,the real agenda bringing ISIS into an ANZAC discussion…give me strenght
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
ANZAC celebration is RIDICULOUS , to glorify these "heros" whose intentions well before leaving the country were to arrive to foreign countries and kill other humans to save the illusory identity of "culture" and "nationality" is immature and embarrassing as a species. This is why humanity is going backwards for we educate our next generation to make heros out of soldiers and therefore in war there is something to be achieved and accomplished leaving you respected. "Lest we forget" I'd rather forget about such an idiotic time frame within human history and move on. But as always, sheep will follow and unfortunately as i can see it in my dad, his generation are full of bogans built off culture and therefore wont even question its origin and illusory nature.

You call your dad and his generation a bogan when the truth is YOU and your generation are just inconsiderate and ignorant blind sheep with no respect for history thanks to the NSW Education DEPT.By the way in your attempt to give a history lesson to those much older than you genius its Heroes not "Heros".Your mocking of the Anzacs and Lest we Forget is totally abhorrent(as is whoever the clown is who decided to rep you positively).

You say humanity is going backwards well yes it is in areas of the world that do not uphold the Anzac values but in those places of the world where we do have so much to thank for the anzacs like that piece of earth that your butt sits on as you type this senseless crap from your PC if it wasnt for the Anzacs it wouldnt be yours to write this crap.You need to be re taught history very quick otherwise you will continue to spill this garbage ala a septic tank and quite frankly it doesnt sound your poor father deserves to have a son like you spewin that crap.You need to give yourself a thousand uppercuts you irrelevant germ spreading clown.

The ANZACS did some incredibly brave and courageous things, and as a whole should be commended for typifying the Australian Spirit in terms of getting a job done, hard yakka, and courage under fire.

They also did some abhorrent, evil, horrendous things as well - which for obvious reasons don't get quite so well publicized.

I repped him positively as his opinion is just as relevant as anyone else's here, and although probably not executed flawlessly, his post does have some merits, which I'm sure will generate CONSTRUCTIVE
DISCUSSION.

Name calling, and threats of violence, and telling people to check their history when actual historical writings and documented testimonies dictate to the contrary is not exactly constructive discussion.
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Where is a threat of violence?And where is my history so wrong?Well done on negatively reppin me too pal as I stood up for the anzacs.
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Why does _every_ thread you're involved in Jerry end up becoming a sh!t fight?

Cause I have my own opinion and not one thats fostered like some sheep following a herd.I dont really feel the need to apologise for defending the anzacs to you either flippedy.Its not me in the wrong but a selfish fewon this thread who are determined to re-write history and pretend the Anzacs(my relatives)and WW1(relatives) and WW2(relatives) soldiers were just an irrelevant bunch and the people who should be applauded is some tree hugging Aussie hating teacher who has teached these clowns to believe the crap they dribble.

You know there is a thing about a returned soldier from war he is never the same after because of all the atrocities he has seen at war.Dont see why these people who gave up so much and are the ONLY reason we are not now speaking Japanese under some evil dictatorship should be spoken so poorly of on this thread or have you question me about my motives.

You don't have to apologize for defending the Anzacs to me Jerry. I come from a long line of Anzacs soldiers, including my father, several uncles on both sides of my family and a couple of great uncles, one of whom was killed the day before Armistice Day, 1918\. I have the utmost respect for all of them.

Nor was I questioning your motives here. I wasn't just referring to this thread, I was simply asking why there is always so much antagonism produced in every thread in which you're involved. Maybe it's the way you state your opinions that riles people up so much, I have no idea. I just know it happens every time and I was wondering why.
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Lakra said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Lakra said:
He gets sacked and ridiculed for voicing his opinion??
ANZAC celebration is RIDICULOUS , to glorify these "heros" whose intentions well before leaving the country were to arrive to foreign countries and kill other humans to save the illusory identity of "culture" and "nationality" is immature and embarrassing as a species. This is why humanity is going backwards for we educate our next generation to make heros out of soldiers and therefore in war there is something to be achieved and accomplished leaving you respected. "Lest we forget" I'd rather forget about such an idiotic time frame within human history and move on. But as always, sheep will follow and unfortunately as i can see it in my dad, his generation are full of bogans built off culture and therefore wont even question its origin and illusory nature.

You call your dad and his generation a bogan when the truth is YOU and your generation are just inconsiderate and ignorant blind sheep with no respect for history thanks to the NSW Education DEPT.By the way in your attempt to give a history lesson to those much older than you genius its Heroes not "Heros".Your mocking of the Anzacs and Lest we Forget is totally abhorrent(as is whoever the clown is who decided to rep you positively).

You say humanity is going backwards well yes it is in areas of the world that do not uphold the Anzac values but in those places of the world where we do have so much to thank for the anzacs like that piece of earth that your butt sits on as you type this senseless crap from your PC if it wasnt for the Anzacs it wouldnt be yours to write this crap.You need to be re taught history very quick otherwise you will continue to spill this garbage ala a septic tank and quite frankly it doesnt sound your poor father deserves to have a son like you spewin that crap.You need to give yourself a thousand uppercuts you irrelevant germ spreading clown.

1\. When i used the term bogan, i used it in the sense to imply uneducated/primitive views and thoughts on life and the world and you so happened to further prove that with your comment as you attempted to insult me and tell me to uppercut myself with no knowledge of who i am or what im currently going through. Within that comment you show the philosophical principals of "progression through conflict" which relate to the political mindset we currently have which as we can see is unhealthy for existence itself
2\. That whole "if it wasnt for them you wouldnt etc etc" we have no idea what the world would have been like had the opposition won and as we can see our current world is not so great with 20,000 children dying per day with 15 dying per minute due to poverty and we are STILL AT WAR. Spending all our energy, effort, intelligence on technology that kills rather then innovation for technology that provides basic substantial living for every individual alive today
3\. "Its Heroes not "heros", that proved what i meant by sheep. There is no such thing as correct grammar only GOOD grammar for language is just noise vibrations picked up by any educated organism with the ability to do so. There is no external universal language law, if you understood what i said, then i used perfect grammar, if not then i didnt use good grammar. But you dont question things do you?
4\. Keep defining yourself as that individual stranger who separates themselves from the world according to their culture, nationality, name etc.
5\. Respect? i have equal respect for each person alive today, i do not have MORE respect for someone depending on age, gender, nationality, occupation etc for that is just plain floolish and problems will arise. I respect existence itself, not those illusory identities that are created and people define themselves as.

1.Dont know what you are going thru at the moment?What about the tens of thousands of soldiers who never returned so you could write this crap from the safety of your PC.No such thing as correct grammar only good grammar?Says he raised in a time when all kids get exactly the same grades on a school report so the parents are absolutely clueless on their childs progression.

Your point 4 just totally makes no sense at all in the real world I live in a land that has over 200 nationalities living in relative harmony.Your point 5 which you label RESPECT one which from your very writing on this thread shows a complete DISRESPECT for the anzacs.Why is it the people who always uses the biggest most intelligent sounding words are the biggest dimwits in the room?They probably use big intelligent sounding words to mask their stupidity.

Well done you got me, thanks Jerry i was a fool to think that absolute nonsense!! Go Australia!! yeah nah, Aussie pride, Lest we forget
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Tony33 said:
War always has been and always will be for the materialistic benefit of the waring nations.

WW1
WW2
War in Iraq

All were as a result of the instigators fighting for resources and power.

I don't buy this whole fighting for our protection and freedom crap.

In the last year when there has been a need for a war or protection of people ( threat of ISIS) these so called fighters for peace, freedom and democracy have gone missing. If that isn't proof then I don't know what is..

Yes but the instigators of WW1,WW2 and Iraq were all defeated by those not fighting for resources or power.You must not watch much media outlets Tony if you dont believe the ISIS threat isnt now being fought by many around the world unfortunately they were just about twenty years too late.

WW1 - Everyone was fighting for power and resources. Australian troops died fighting for Britain's resources and power. Interestingly Britain ended up taking control of Iraq and the oil it needed to switch from coal powered machines to oil run mechanics.

Iraq - America instigated the war by invading Iraq in search for "weapons of mass destruction" they didn't end up finding. Instead giving rise to more destructive groups like we are seeing with ISIS. If you don't believe America invaded for the oil then you're pretty naive Jerry.

ISIS - Why didn't America invade and wipe them out in 2-3 days rather than prolong their existence ? They were so eager to go in when Sudam Hussein was apparently a threat but not so much this time. Then again how would petrol be so cheap today ?

That is my limited knowledge of wars but I'm sure there are many others founded on the longing for resources and power..
 
While having this discussion good people,always remember the young men and women who were sent to this "Great War "did on the say so of the government of the time,if they didn't go they were imprisoned…..the ANZACS themselves at least a majority of them didn't want to kill other people,but it was what they had to do..it was for our country..

We are all entitled to our opinion wether we agree or not...this is the freedom we are afforded,thanks to the men and women that lost their lives so we could have this very freedom.....once again wether you agree with me or not...

As a side note,my dearly loved parents who now are passed,both went through the 2nd world war and quite often spoke of atrocities they had seen...to be honest with you guys and I don't have to tell you anything,my mum was German and my dad was Polish,they came out here to a prison camp,Bonnagilla,after being screened they we "shipped off "to work on the railway,their friends helped build the Snowy Mountain Scheme.....

My dad fought along side the Canadian paratroopers and drove a heavy transport truck..I asked him one day what it was like...he told me when your mate gets shot and you go to help him,he asked for water and you have to leave him and keep moving...it's what I never want you to go through.....so argue all you like,but realistically ..."war is a waste of good peoples lives and in the end,who really wins"....
 
@Flippedy said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
ANZAC celebration is RIDICULOUS , to glorify these "heros" whose intentions well before leaving the country were to arrive to foreign countries and kill other humans to save the illusory identity of "culture" and "nationality" is immature and embarrassing as a species. This is why humanity is going backwards for we educate our next generation to make heros out of soldiers and therefore in war there is something to be achieved and accomplished leaving you respected. "Lest we forget" I'd rather forget about such an idiotic time frame within human history and move on. But as always, sheep will follow and unfortunately as i can see it in my dad, his generation are full of bogans built off culture and therefore wont even question its origin and illusory nature.

You call your dad and his generation a bogan when the truth is YOU and your generation are just inconsiderate and ignorant blind sheep with no respect for history thanks to the NSW Education DEPT.By the way in your attempt to give a history lesson to those much older than you genius its Heroes not "Heros".Your mocking of the Anzacs and Lest we Forget is totally abhorrent(as is whoever the clown is who decided to rep you positively).

You say humanity is going backwards well yes it is in areas of the world that do not uphold the Anzac values but in those places of the world where we do have so much to thank for the anzacs like that piece of earth that your butt sits on as you type this senseless crap from your PC if it wasnt for the Anzacs it wouldnt be yours to write this crap.You need to be re taught history very quick otherwise you will continue to spill this garbage ala a septic tank and quite frankly it doesnt sound your poor father deserves to have a son like you spewin that crap.You need to give yourself a thousand uppercuts you irrelevant germ spreading clown.

The ANZACS did some incredibly brave and courageous things, and as a whole should be commended for typifying the Australian Spirit in terms of getting a job done, hard yakka, and courage under fire.

They also did some abhorrent, evil, horrendous things as well - which for obvious reasons don't get quite so well publicized.

I repped him positively as his opinion is just as relevant as anyone else's here, and although probably not executed flawlessly, his post does have some merits, which I'm sure will generate CONSTRUCTIVE
DISCUSSION.

Name calling, and threats of violence, and telling people to check their history when actual historical writings and documented testimonies dictate to the contrary is not exactly constructive discussion.
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Where is a threat of violence?And where is my history so wrong?Well done on negatively reppin me too pal as I stood up for the anzacs.
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Why does _every_ thread you're involved in Jerry end up becoming a sh!t fight?

Cause I have my own opinion and not one thats fostered like some sheep following a herd.I dont really feel the need to apologise for defending the anzacs to you either flippedy.Its not me in the wrong but a selfish fewon this thread who are determined to re-write history and pretend the Anzacs(my relatives)and WW1(relatives) and WW2(relatives) soldiers were just an irrelevant bunch and the people who should be applauded is some tree hugging Aussie hating teacher who has teached these clowns to believe the crap they dribble.

You know there is a thing about a returned soldier from war he is never the same after because of all the atrocities he has seen at war.Dont see why these people who gave up so much and are the ONLY reason we are not now speaking Japanese under some evil dictatorship should be spoken so poorly of on this thread or have you question me about my motives.

You don't have to apologize for defending the Anzacs to me Jerry. I come from a long line of Anzacs soldiers, including my father, several uncles on both sides of my family and a couple of great uncles, one of whom was killed the day before Armistice Day, 1918\. I have the utmost respect for all of them.

Nor was I questioning your motives here. I wasn't just referring to this thread, I was simply asking why there is always so much antagonism produced in every thread in which you're involved. Maybe it's the way you state your opinions that riles people up so much, I have no idea. I just know it happens every time and I was wondering why.
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Ok Flip and my apologies.You must understand I am taking a lot of fire on this from other posters and moderators :unamused: on this thread.What I do know Flippedy is I have been told by posters on here who get regular private messages from other posters and it always comes from threads suggesting a pro-western pro-Anzac or ONE Anti Robbie Farah thread which received the most hate of all.I dont know these people personally but it seems they act like a bunch of little cowardly schoolgirls PM'ing each other bitching about me a they snigger like rats behind my back.

I have been alerted of this on more than one occasion.Not sure what it is about a Pro-Western,Pro anzac guy who questioned Robbies motives (of last year when not going to press conferences.) that incenses some on here.With that being said I do have my supporters also who PM me with positivity.I guess im just not politically correct for a lot of people on here and they would prefer I call a spade a diamond and not a spade.
 
So much philosophy, political correctness and intellectual do gooding.

Very little understanding of true evil and the global communities role to put an end to that evil.

I question all wars and their elite benefactors but if we simply transferred all energy and resources from war into poverty and humanity im sorry to say we would be handing the world to people whose intentions arent as humane as ours.
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Flippedy said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
ANZAC celebration is RIDICULOUS , to glorify these "heros" whose intentions well before leaving the country were to arrive to foreign countries and kill other humans to save the illusory identity of "culture" and "nationality" is immature and embarrassing as a species. This is why humanity is going backwards for we educate our next generation to make heros out of soldiers and therefore in war there is something to be achieved and accomplished leaving you respected. "Lest we forget" I'd rather forget about such an idiotic time frame within human history and move on. But as always, sheep will follow and unfortunately as i can see it in my dad, his generation are full of bogans built off culture and therefore wont even question its origin and illusory nature.

You call your dad and his generation a bogan when the truth is YOU and your generation are just inconsiderate and ignorant blind sheep with no respect for history thanks to the NSW Education DEPT.By the way in your attempt to give a history lesson to those much older than you genius its Heroes not "Heros".Your mocking of the Anzacs and Lest we Forget is totally abhorrent(as is whoever the clown is who decided to rep you positively).

You say humanity is going backwards well yes it is in areas of the world that do not uphold the Anzac values but in those places of the world where we do have so much to thank for the anzacs like that piece of earth that your butt sits on as you type this senseless crap from your PC if it wasnt for the Anzacs it wouldnt be yours to write this crap.You need to be re taught history very quick otherwise you will continue to spill this garbage ala a septic tank and quite frankly it doesnt sound your poor father deserves to have a son like you spewin that crap.You need to give yourself a thousand uppercuts you irrelevant germ spreading clown.

The ANZACS did some incredibly brave and courageous things, and as a whole should be commended for typifying the Australian Spirit in terms of getting a job done, hard yakka, and courage under fire.

They also did some abhorrent, evil, horrendous things as well - which for obvious reasons don't get quite so well publicized.

I repped him positively as his opinion is just as relevant as anyone else's here, and although probably not executed flawlessly, his post does have some merits, which I'm sure will generate CONSTRUCTIVE
DISCUSSION.

Name calling, and threats of violence, and telling people to check their history when actual historical writings and documented testimonies dictate to the contrary is not exactly constructive discussion.

Where is a threat of violence?And where is my history so wrong?Well done on negatively reppin me too pal as I stood up for the anzacs.
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Why does _every_ thread you're involved in Jerry end up becoming a sh!t fight?

Cause I have my own opinion and not one thats fostered like some sheep following a herd.I dont really feel the need to apologise for defending the anzacs to you either flippedy.Its not me in the wrong but a selfish fewon this thread who are determined to re-write history and pretend the Anzacs(my relatives)and WW1(relatives) and WW2(relatives) soldiers were just an irrelevant bunch and the people who should be applauded is some tree hugging Aussie hating teacher who has teached these clowns to believe the crap they dribble.

You know there is a thing about a returned soldier from war he is never the same after because of all the atrocities he has seen at war.Dont see why these people who gave up so much and are the ONLY reason we are not now speaking Japanese under some evil dictatorship should be spoken so poorly of on this thread or have you question me about my motives.

You don't have to apologize for defending the Anzacs to me Jerry. I come from a long line of Anzacs soldiers, including my father, several uncles on both sides of my family and a couple of great uncles, one of whom was killed the day before Armistice Day, 1918\. I have the utmost respect for all of them.

Nor was I questioning your motives here. I wasn't just referring to this thread, I was simply asking why there is always so much antagonism produced in every thread in which you're involved. Maybe it's the way you state your opinions that riles people up so much, I have no idea. I just know it happens every time and I was wondering why.
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Ok Flip and my apologies.You must understand I am taking a lot of fire on this from other posters and moderators :unamused: on this thread.What I do know Flippedy is I have been told by posters on here who get regular private messages from other posters and it always comes from threads suggesting a pro-western pro-Anzac or ONE Anti Robbie Farah thread which received the most hate of all.I dont know these people personally but it seems they act like a bunch of little cowardly schoolgirls PM'ing each other [automatically edited] about me a they snigger like rats behind my back.

I have been alerted of this on more than one occasion.Not sure what it is about a Pro-Western,Pro anzac guy who questioned Robbies motives (of last year when not going to press conferences.) that incenses some on here.With that being said I do have my supporters also who PM me with positivity.I guess im just not politically correct for a lot of people on here and they would prefer I call a spade a diamond and not a spade.

All good mate, I hear ya.
 
Well Jerry I can honestly say I have never heard anything about what you are talking about in regards to people PMing others and whinging behind your back

If you have got issues with that I suggest you contact any of the MODs and they will help you as best they can to solve these problems
 
@Tony33 said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Tony33 said:
War always has been and always will be for the materialistic benefit of the waring nations.

WW1
WW2
War in Iraq

All were as a result of the instigators fighting for resources and power.

I don't buy this whole fighting for our protection and freedom crap.

In the last year when there has been a need for a war or protection of people ( threat of ISIS) these so called fighters for peace, freedom and democracy have gone missing. If that isn't proof then I don't know what is..

Yes but the instigators of WW1,WW2 and Iraq were all defeated by those not fighting for resources or power.You must not watch much media outlets Tony if you dont believe the ISIS threat isnt now being fought by many around the world unfortunately they were just about twenty years too late.

WW1 - Everyone was fighting for power and resources. Australian troops died fighting for Britain's resources and power. Interestingly Britain ended up taking control of Iraq and the oil it needed to switch from coal powered machines to oil run mechanics.

Iraq - America instigated the war by invading Iraq in search for "weapons of mass destruction" they didn't end up finding. Instead giving rise to more destructive groups like we are seeing with ISIS. If you don't believe America invaded for the oil then you're pretty naive Jerry.

ISIS - Why didn't America invade and wipe them out in 2-3 days rather than prolong their existence ? They were so eager to go in when Sudam Hussein was apparently a threat but not so much this time. Then again how would petrol be so cheap today ?

That is my limited knowledge of wars but I'm sure there are many others founded on the longing for resources and power..

They were to eradicate evil.Never heard of Hitler or Saddam Hussein.Although within the middle east I agree that the removal of one evil dictator always seems to be replaced by a more evil dictator.I hate wars.But sadly sometimes they are a necessary evil.You and a lot of people say the US invaded Iraq for oil well America already had a s$$$load of it and as the richest country on earth what do they really have to gain by going to Iraq when they are already strong allies of Saudi Arabia.Remember the first Iraq war when Saddam invaded Kuwait and the Americans beat Iraq in a few weeks they didnt take over all the oil reserves then they gave them back to Saddam(crazily)and nor are they now.Its just a convenient excuse for the Western Hating masses.Tony I respect your view re Middle east and its problems as I know its your background etc but the west is not as bad as you make it

.Remember if palestine laid down their guns there would be peace if Israel laid down their guns there would be no Israel.These wars we see all around the world at the moment have stemmed from hatred from the middle east not the west or Israel or anything so I think it a little odd you try to get all anti American on this topic.As you have told me previously its not Americas fault you and your family left the middle east its people from your exact blood but of another religion.

You see war is a very sensitive issue for intelligent Australians because of their sacrifices they made so we can live freely not because we are full of war mongering animals.There is a reason Australia WAS and is the safest place on earth(Despite a certain ISIS mobs best intentions).You must remember tony I realise you are a good bloke and also let it be known that if ISIS ever did endanger you or your family out of all the "friends" you have that agree with you on this thread it would be me who would be there fighting by your side as your friends ran for the nearest tree.
 
@happy tiger said:
Well Jerry I can honestly say I have never heard anything about what you are talking about in regards to people PMing others and whinging behind your back

If you have got issues with that I suggest you contact any of the MODs and they will help you as best they can to solve these problems

I just didnt think it was worth my efforts to worry about a few clowns happy.
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@happy tiger said:
Well Jerry I can honestly say I have never heard anything about what you are talking about in regards to people PMing others and whinging behind your back

If you have got issues with that I suggest you contact any of the MODs and they will help you as best they can to solve these problems

I just didnt think it was worth my efforts to worry about a few clowns happy.

No matter what your opinion is or how wrong or right it might be , you still deserve some respect mate

I like your style Jerry , no one can ever accuse you of sitting on the fence and that's what Forum's are all about
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Tony33 said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@Tony33 said:
War always has been and always will be for the materialistic benefit of the waring nations.

WW1
WW2
War in Iraq

All were as a result of the instigators fighting for resources and power.

I don't buy this whole fighting for our protection and freedom crap.

In the last year when there has been a need for a war or protection of people ( threat of ISIS) these so called fighters for peace, freedom and democracy have gone missing. If that isn't proof then I don't know what is..

Yes but the instigators of WW1,WW2 and Iraq were all defeated by those not fighting for resources or power.You must not watch much media outlets Tony if you dont believe the ISIS threat isnt now being fought by many around the world unfortunately they were just about twenty years too late.

WW1 - Everyone was fighting for power and resources. Australian troops died fighting for Britain's resources and power. Interestingly Britain ended up taking control of Iraq and the oil it needed to switch from coal powered machines to oil run mechanics.

Iraq - America instigated the war by invading Iraq in search for "weapons of mass destruction" they didn't end up finding. Instead giving rise to more destructive groups like we are seeing with ISIS. If you don't believe America invaded for the oil then you're pretty naive Jerry.

ISIS - Why didn't America invade and wipe them out in 2-3 days rather than prolong their existence ? They were so eager to go in when Sudam Hussein was apparently a threat but not so much this time. Then again how would petrol be so cheap today ?

That is my limited knowledge of wars but I'm sure there are many others founded on the longing for resources and power..

They were to eradicate evil.Never heard of Hitler or Saddam Hussein.I hate wars.But sadly sometimes they are a necessary evil.You and a lot of people say the US invaded Iraq for oil well America already had a s$$$load of it and as the richest country on earth what do they really have to gain by going to iraq when they are already strong allies of Saudi Arabia.Remember the first Iraq war when Saddam invaded kuwait and the Americans beat iraq in a few weeks they didnt take over all the oil reserves then and nor are they now.Its just a convenient excuse for the Western Hating masses.Tony I respect your view re Middle east and its problems as I know its your background etc but the west is not as bad as you make it

j.Remember if palestine laid down their guns there would be peace if Israel laid down their guns there would be no Israel.These wars we see all around the world at the moment have stemmed from hatred from the middle east not the west or Israel or anything so I think it a little odd you try to get all anti American on this topic.As you have told me previously its not Americas fault you and your family left the middle east its people from your exact blood but of another religion.

You see war is a very sensitive issue for intelligent Australians because of their sacrifices they made so we can live freely not because we are full of war mongering animals.There is a reason Australia WAS and is the safest place on earth(Despite a certain ISIS mobs best intentions).You must remember tony I realise you are a good bloke and also let it be known that if ISIS ever did endanger you or your family out of all the "friends" you have that agree with you on this thread it would be me who would be there fighting by your side as your friends ran for the nearest tree.

Jerry mate this has nothing to do with the West vs Middle East. None of these wars affected me directly or my family directly so my viewpoint is just an opinion formed based on what I know. My comments are in regards to war as a whole. I just believe that war is a tool used to benefit those who instigate it and then try and sell it as something else.

That is my opinion, if you agree awesome, if not then so be it. We all view the world with different perspectives based on what we have seen, heard and read.
 
@happy tiger said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@happy tiger said:
Well Jerry I can honestly say I have never heard anything about what you are talking about in regards to people PMing others and whinging behind your back

If you have got issues with that I suggest you contact any of the MODs and they will help you as best they can to solve these problems

I just didnt think it was worth my efforts to worry about a few clowns happy.

No matter what your opinion is or how wrong or right it might be , you still deserve some respect mate

I like your style Jerry , no one can ever accuse you of sitting on the fence and that's what Forum's are all about

Gotta question the ones that do hate a strong and honest knock about bloke.Hmmmmmmm.
 
A disgrace to see ANZAC founding to be commercialised and succumb to the greedy.

Two sides to every story, Murdoch's propaganda peddling media, and some semblance of the truth elsewhere.

No bitching via PM to or from here.

Opinion is okay, but separation from employer is necessary.

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@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@happy tiger said:
Well Jerry I can honestly say I have never heard anything about what you are talking about in regards to people PMing others and whinging behind your back

If you have got issues with that I suggest you contact any of the MODs and they will help you as best they can to solve these problems

I just didnt think it was worth my efforts to worry about a few clowns happy.

It couldn't have been me. Ask Forevertiger he knows I don't reply to PM's :laughing:
 
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