Sheens on Nrl on Fox

@supercoach said:
You have to love loyalty, all the usual Sheens people are coming out to defend the great man. All the excuses, the same as last year and a few years before. Didnt he invent the 2010 catch phase "NO MORE EXCUSES". I could handle it if we lost every game, if I believed we were picking and using our best 17 players week in and week out but even blind Freedie will tell you that is not the case. We have a person in charge who can do what he likes when he likes because he is uncountable to anyone, the CEO,the board and the media just slap him on the back and feed his ego. Anyway 2012 season cant come sooner enough for me

Totaly agree Supercoach.., i can also put up with lossing if i know we have picked our best 17 in their correct position.

Right now it's so frustrating, just an explanation from him would do me.

and don't get your hopes up about 2012.
 
@Geo. said:
Yeah…like it's Sheens fault no one in the media has the guts to ask him any tough questions....Oh wait...It is...No other Coach in the game plays the media like him...

Interesting his views(not excuses) on the recent loss to the Rorters...

Turning over the ball...increasing the tackle count in the heat......can't win like that... :unamused:

Those extra 60 70 tackles don't seem much to everyone but it makes it difficult...dead set... :brick:

Hey Tim...coach them not to drop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I remember back in early 2000's when Justin Hodges made his State of Origin debut. He had a shocker and dropped easy balls all night and made stupid passes. Debut from Hell some called it… Justin went into a fom slump all on the back of this game and Sticky tried and tried to get him back to playing good football, but just couldnt get him to click and hold the ball.

Ironically, Ricky rang Wayne Bennett and asked a few questions about Justin and after thier conversation, they decided to get Dr Phill Johnsy to sit down with Justin. Phill replayed the Origin tapes with Justin and he asked Justin what he was thinking when he made those errors. Justin didnt know how to answer him and looked lost and asked Phill what he should do...

Phill stood up, walked up to Justin and put his hand on his shoulder and asked him "dont you know how to catch a ball?" and left the room...
:bulb:
 
@supercoach said:
You have to love loyalty, all the usual Sheens people are coming out to defend the great man. All the excuses, the same as last year and a few years before. Didnt he invent the 2010 catch phase "NO MORE EXCUSES". I could handle it if we lost every game, if I believed we were picking and using our best 17 players week in and week out but even blind Freedie will tell you that is not the case. We have a person in charge who can do what he likes when he likes because he is uncountable to anyone, the CEO,the board and the media just slap him on the back and feed his ego. Anyway 2012 season cant come sooner enough for me

Couldn't agree more,well said.
 
@Tigerpete said:
I have to agree , i'm sick of the moaning in here about Sheens, it's a bit of a turn off really. Sure, i can understand the frustration fans share for our lack of form at times but lets face it, there are some unrealistic expectations placed on the team in here.

1\. Blake Lazerus was never going to star in first grade. He needs to dominate State Cup first and while he has his moments there he's not yet at that level. That will come with time though, With the time spent off the park from injuries you can't expect him to just pick up the pieces of where he left off.

2\. I'm actually going to come out and defend Daniel Fitzhenry. Okay so his reappearance this season was a little mystifying but not so bad of a decision. Make no mistake, the guy is our fall out boy, our scape goat and most weeks he'll be criticised more so out of a reputation formed by people on this forum. I think he's been solid for us this season, sure he's not a class player but guess what, not all of them are.

3\. The only thing i find frustrating with Sheens is his bench and persistence for utilities. For maybe the first 6 weeks of the season i can justify carrying a winger on the bench, other than that, it has to go! 2 months into the season and we're carrying a utility and a winger on the bench and quite frankly it's brain dead and unnecessary.

4\. In my opinion Sheens is without doubt the best man for the job at this point in time. Unless we go poaching Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy then i don't see need to change, purely because any replacement would be a step down. I find the criticism of Sheens carries no weight in here.

Lets face it, we're all largely uninformed and out of the loop with the happenings inside the club, Some of us like to claim to be "in the know" but really unless your source is Tim Sheens or Stephen Humphreys, your guess may be as good as joe the cameraman.

100% spot on
 
@Spartan117 said:
@Tigerpete said:
I have to agree , i'm sick of the moaning in here about Sheens, it's a bit of a turn off really. Sure, i can understand the frustration fans share for our lack of form at times but lets face it, there are some unrealistic expectations placed on the team in here.

1\. Blake Lazerus was never going to star in first grade. He needs to dominate State Cup first and while he has his moments there he's not yet at that level. That will come with time though, With the time spent off the park from injuries you can't expect him to just pick up the pieces of where he left off.

2\. I'm actually going to come out and defend Daniel Fitzhenry. Okay so his reappearance this season was a little mystifying but not so bad of a decision. Make no mistake, the guy is our fall out boy, our scape goat and most weeks he'll be criticised more so out of a reputation formed by people on this forum. I think he's been solid for us this season, sure he's not a class player but guess what, not all of them are.

3\. The only thing i find frustrating with Sheens is his bench and persistence for utilities. For maybe the first 6 weeks of the season i can justify carrying a winger on the bench, other than that, it has to go! 2 months into the season and we're carrying a utility and a winger on the bench and quite frankly it's brain dead and unnecessary.

4\. In my opinion Sheens is without doubt the best man for the job at this point in time. Unless we go poaching Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy then i don't see need to change, purely because any replacement would be a step down. I find the criticism of Sheens carries no weight in here.

Lets face it, we're all largely uninformed and out of the loop with the happenings inside the club, Some of us like to claim to be "in the know" but really unless your source is Tim Sheens or Stephen Humphreys, your guess may be as good as joe the cameraman.

100% spot on

Ill buy in to this as well.

Well put, Tigerpete.
 
@tigersnumberone said:
@Spartan117 said:
@Tigerpete said:
I have to agree , i'm sick of the moaning in here about Sheens, it's a bit of a turn off really. Sure, i can understand the frustration fans share for our lack of form at times but lets face it, there are some unrealistic expectations placed on the team in here.

1\. Blake Lazerus was never going to star in first grade. He needs to dominate State Cup first and while he has his moments there he's not yet at that level. That will come with time though, With the time spent off the park from injuries you can't expect him to just pick up the pieces of where he left off.

2\. I'm actually going to come out and defend Daniel Fitzhenry. Okay so his reappearance this season was a little mystifying but not so bad of a decision. Make no mistake, the guy is our fall out boy, our scape goat and most weeks he'll be criticised more so out of a reputation formed by people on this forum. I think he's been solid for us this season, sure he's not a class player but guess what, not all of them are.

3\. The only thing i find frustrating with Sheens is his bench and persistence for utilities. For maybe the first 6 weeks of the season i can justify carrying a winger on the bench, other than that, it has to go! 2 months into the season and we're carrying a utility and a winger on the bench and quite frankly it's brain dead and unnecessary.

4\. In my opinion Sheens is without doubt the best man for the job at this point in time. Unless we go poaching Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy then i don't see need to change, purely because any replacement would be a step down. I find the criticism of Sheens carries no weight in here.

Lets face it, we're all largely uninformed and out of the loop with the happenings inside the club, Some of us like to claim to be "in the know" but really unless your source is Tim Sheens or Stephen Humphreys, your guess may be as good as joe the cameraman.

100% spot on

Ill buy in to this as well.

Well put, Tigerpete.

Well I am unhappy with the Fonz. His success rate to get us into the semi's is pathetic.
 
We have been going on about Sheens for years, in the red corner we have the Sheens ticket holders in ever decreasing numbers and in the blue corner we have the anti Sheens team getting bigger by the day. Both camps throwing up their arguments for and against him nothing changes especially results on the field.
I have said a million times Sheens is probably a top notch coach but his magic spell is not working in tiger town. Now either our so called super stars are not so good or our coach has lost the key to turn them on. The only way we are going to know is to get a new coach. It might not work but we just cant sit on our hands year in and year out and do nothing. Really how many good games have this team put together over the past four years, not many, most wins have been a struggle made of some flashy brilliance and the rest being like a team firing on three cylinders.

Anyway its still early days and we are not out of the fight, but someone has to start putting some spirit and passion in the place and a little teamwork might go a long way
 
I have always been a fan of Sheens but his bench selection is very ordinary and is starting to annoy me.

There is no justification for having a winger on the bench.
 
@MGB said:
@macdougall said:
i sent in an email to nrl on fox a fortnight ago pretending to be daniel fitzhenry's mother and wished to publicly beg tim sheens to let his son return to the reggies where he won't be made a fool of every week by the fans he adores. It was pretty funny to be frank and the fact that they didn't read it out just goes to show the influence sheens has over the nrl media. I know i'm judging the humour of my own joke but i assure you it would have made 99 percent of the viewing audiences spit their coffee out if they actually read it out.

mwa hahahahahahahahahahaha oh help me someone hahaha my jaw hurts and i have a stitch in my hahaha side, fitzy's mum, hahahahahaha somebody help me. If i don't get enough air i may hahahahaha die. Ok, i'm ok, just gotta breathe…...but really this is hahahahahahaha so funny hahaha it really is, and it's fitzy's mum hahaha i mean hahahaha just imagine fitzy's mum calling in hahaha oh stop it, im in real pain now. I think one of my lungs just collapsed.

So what is the point of this reply? To tell me that the email I sent that you haven't even read wasn't funny? Spin harder meat muppet.

I can't repost it here because I typed it into the box on the website off the top of my head and why the heck would I save it?
 
@simonthetiger said:
Gee this constant whinging about sheens sure is boring.

Funnily enough in my search for some respite i have been surfing other teans sites and lo and behold it seems everyone is whinging about their coach.

Roosters fans moaning about having three hookers and two wingers in the centres.

Bronco fans whining about the chopping and changing.

Raider fans crying about not bringing the kids through and playing the oldies.

All want rid of their coach…...

Ps....i really enjoyed sheensie being on there,he deserves some respect and he got it.

Maybe Rugby League supporters (or part therof) just love having a whinge …....... heaven forbid there's plenty on here that do !

I enjoyed the interview as well and it was good to see the panel treating him with the respect he deserves.
 
I think as per usual the answer lies somewhere in the middle.
Sheens does deserve respect…...no question he has done some truly great things in Rugby league and has been around for a very long time in a ruthless sport....BUT......just like anybody else he should be held accountable and some of the team selections over the past couple of seasons at the least deserve a 'please explain'
 
@MGB said:
I think as per usual the answer lies somewhere in the middle.
Sheens does deserve respect…...no question he has done some truly great things in Rugby league and has been around for a very long time in a ruthless sport....BUT......just like anybody else he should be held accountable and some of the team selections over the past couple of seasons at the least deserve a 'please explain'

Couldnt agree more….

Its a interesting situation, but there seems to be alot of "Please Explains" needed in the game of Rugby League at the moment???

NRL
ARL/NSWRL
Media Control
Referee's
Wests Tigers Team
 
@MacDougall said:
@MGB said:
@macdougall said:
i sent in an email to nrl on fox a fortnight ago pretending to be daniel fitzhenry's mother and wished to publicly beg tim sheens to let his son return to the reggies where he won't be made a fool of every week by the fans he adores. It was pretty funny to be frank and the fact that they didn't read it out just goes to show the influence sheens has over the nrl media. I know i'm judging the humour of my own joke but i assure you it would have made 99 percent of the viewing audiences spit their coffee out if they actually read it out.

mwa hahahahahahahahahahaha oh help me someone hahaha my jaw hurts and i have a stitch in my hahaha side, fitzy's mum, hahahahahaha somebody help me. If i don't get enough air i may hahahahaha die. Ok, i'm ok, just gotta breathe…...but really this is hahahahahahaha so funny hahaha it really is, and it's fitzy's mum hahaha i mean hahahaha just imagine fitzy's mum calling in hahaha oh stop it, im in real pain now. I think one of my lungs just collapsed.

So what is the point of this reply? To tell me that the email I sent that you haven't even read wasn't funny? Spin harder meat muppet.

I can't repost it here because I typed it into the box on the website off the top of my head and why the heck would I save it?

No, you got me completely wrong, I wasn't trying to say it wasn't funny more that it sounded completely stupid, granted the two generally go hand in hand but without reading the actual letter can't really make that call. Top marks to you champ…meat puppet hahaha
 
@Spartan117 said:
Yeah I know The great Couso pops in and out of here, He uses the site as a tool to disseminate Positive info.

As for **Coach Sheens** and Mr Humpries caring about what we think of Fitzy etc…..

Well he cared enough to comment - and even take a swipe - when he thought we criticised Morris…we were in fact criticising Sheens himself for putting Morris at 7.

..............................“John is very professional, does the right thing, and looks after himself.
>
“It was pleasing to see him having a good game at seven. He has been criticised by some of our ‘so called fans’. John has been a great utility for us and filled in at every position bar front-row........................
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http://www.weststigers.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=20020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fitzys mum...LOL :laughing:
 
Exactly right there Ink…Hardly anyone on here was criticising J-Mo outright - more so that he was always playing out of position and struggling...not his fault.

I wish we still had him...that guy has guts and he's as tough as.
 
@stryker said:
Exactly right there Ink…Hardly anyone on here was criticising J-Mo outright - more so that he was always playing out of position and struggling...not his fault.

I wish we still had him...that guy has guts and he's as tough as.

And would be good value on the bench as a utility.
 
@innsaneink said:
@Spartan117 said:
Yeah I know The great Couso pops in and out of here, He uses the site as a tool to disseminate Positive info.

As for **Coach Sheens** and Mr Humpries caring about what we think of Fitzy etc…..

Well he cared enough to comment - and even take a swipe - when he thought we criticised Morris…we were in fact criticising Sheens himself for putting Morris at 7.

..............................“John is very professional, does the right thing, and looks after himself.
>
“It was pleasing to see him having a good game at seven. He has been criticised by some of our ‘so called fans’. John has been a great utility for us and filled in at every position bar front-row........................
>
http://www.weststigers.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=20020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Fitzys mum...LOL :laughing:

:laughing: Right on queue Innk….

*Awaits the Fitzhenry attends the announcement to the cure of the common cold and Fitzy..The Ultimate Professional Trainer articles.......
 
@supercoach said:
We have been going on about Sheens for years, in the red corner we have the Sheens ticket holders in ever decreasing numbers and in the blue corner we have the anti Sheens team getting bigger by the day. Both camps throwing up their arguments for and against him nothing changes especially results on the field.
I have said a million times Sheens is probably a top notch coach but his magic spell is not working in tiger town. Now either our so called super stars are not so good or our coach has lost the key to turn them on. The only way we are going to know is to get a new coach. It might not work but we just cant sit on our hands year in and year out and do nothing. Really how many good games have this team put together over the past four years, not many, most wins have been a struggle made of some flashy brilliance and the rest being like a team firing on three cylinders.

Anyway its still early days and we are not out of the fight, but someone has to start putting some spirit and passion in the place and a little teamwork might go a long way

Honestly, how can any fair minded person argue with that? I dont care how much u love Sheens, u cant possibly come up with an argument to counter supercoach's post.
 

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