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TIM Sheens has quit as Wests Tigers coach following a revolt from his players.

He reached a settlement with the club yesterday to walk away after 10 years at the helm.

Sheens told Tigers players and officials yesterday afternoon he was no longer going to be involved at the club, and speculation immediately turned to him possibly switching to the New Zealand Warriors.

It is understood Sheens reached a compromise payout agreement regarding the final two years of his contract.

A Tigers board meeting last night to decide Sheens' future was cancelled and the club is believed to be holding off on a formal announcement to allow Sheens to sort out a deal with the Warriors.

Under the terms of Sheens' contract, he was to be paid the full amount of his $450,000-a-year deal if he was sacked. But the club baulked at a parting payment of $900,000.

While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Sheens is also thought to have told his longtime colleague Brian Hyder that the football manager too won't be at the Tigers next season.

In recent days the pressure to oust Sheens became apparent as leading players openly expressed displeasure over the departures of club favourites Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to the Sharks.

Sheens and the Tigers came to an agreement over the payout terms, while a new deal with New Zealand would likely cover the shortfall if it eventuated.

Sheens is keen to retain the Kangaroos job, presenting the curious situation where he could have to coach against a Kiwi side packed with his Warriors players should he take the Auckland job.

Tim Sheens - Tigers
Tim Sheens - Tigers

Source: The Daily Telegraph

Candidates for the Tigers job include Melbourne assistant coach Kevin Walters and Manly and NSW assistant coach Matt Parish.

Sheens, who guided the joint-venture club to the 2005 premiership, is understood to have spoken to Warriors executives yesterday about a possible deal.

Warriors chairman Bill Wavish is expected to fly to London within days to discuss candidates for the coaching gig with club owners Eric Watson and Owen Glenn.

While the Tigers failed to make the top eight this year, the real problems began when Ryan and Heighington confirmed last week they were defecting to Cronulla.

Marshall was furious, particularly as he has a close relationship with both players.

He made his feelings known in an explosive confrontation with club chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

With popular prop Bryce Gibbs having departed last year, also to the Sharks, some of the remaining players felt the club was being ripped apart because of its inability to retain long-serving stars.
 
While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Now we know its just the DT and no direct quotes so nothing is proven, BUT if that part was true then it speaks volumes on just how far Sheens had fallen.

He leaves us in a better position then when he arrived, there is no argument or debate. Look at our NYC/NSW Cup sides and structures, our current playing roster and the fact we have a premiership in the cabinet.

However he ended up in 2012, I say thanks Tim. Good luck for the future. Now bring on 2013!
 
**<big>Purse strings could tie Sheens to Tigers</big>
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Brad Walter**

Too dear to lose … Tigers coach Tim Sheens.

SALARY cap problems and a shortage of money to pay out coach Tim Sheens have left Wests Tigers' preparations for 2013 in limbo.

A review of the club's 2012 performance is expected to recommend that the Tigers part ways with Sheens but the joint venture cannot afford to pay him $900,000 for the remaining two years of his contract.

In addition, the Tigers would have to find an estimated $250,000 for a new coach next season if they were to appoint a replacement untried at NRL level such as Matt Parish, Steve Georgallis or Peter Gentle.

An emergency board meeting set down for last night to discuss Sheens's future was cancelled but directors have been in regular contact since they decided last Thursday night to conduct a review of the Tigers' miserable season.

Since missing out on a place in the finals by two points, long-standing relationships at the Tigers have begun to unravel, and Sheens is believed to have lost the support of star players Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.

While it has been suggested that relations between Sheens - the Australian coach - and Farah have not been the same since last year's Four Nations in England, Marshall had been a vocal supporter.

Just two weeks ago, the star playmaker wrote a column in The Sun-Herald declaring that he thought Sheens was still the best coach in the game and had the respect of the players ''in spades''.

However, the shock departures of the popular Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to Cronulla and news that centre Blake Ayshford had also been told he was free to find another club appears to have changed that.

The Herald revealed last week that Farah would consider a move to Parramatta when his contract expires next season, while Marshall wrote in his column last Sunday that he was struggling to come to terms with the decision to allow Ryan and Heighington to leave.

Heighington was under contract but was seeking a two-year extension, and when the Sharks offered him a three-year deal, the Tigers agreed to release him.

After being offered a release a year earlier, the Central Coast-born England second-rower clearly didn't fit into Sheens's long-term plans.

Ryan had agreed to terms on a new three-year deal with the Tigers 10 weeks earlier. However, no deal was signed, and the Herald was told Ryan became frustrated at delays as he was trying to get a home loan.

When he discovered Heighington was going to Cronulla he decided to join him.

Tigers management has been criticised for not formalising the deal with Ryan but the Herald has been told that the club was not in a position to lodge a contract until it had resolved salary cap issues.

Under NRL rules, all contracts must be lodged with salary cap auditor Ian Schubert within two weeks of being signed, and he has reportedly refused to register a new deal for Manly's Brett Stewart for similar reasons.

Sea Eagles prop Brent Kite has been linked with the Tigers but the Herald understands club management disagrees with Sheens over signing another player over 30 after recruiting Braith Anasta from the Roosters.

The Tigers boast two of the best young props in the game in Aaron Woods and Matt Groat. The club won this year's under-18 SG Ball competition and has qualified for the grand finals of the under-20 Toyota Cup and NSW Cup, the latter through feeder team Balmain-Ryde.
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This forum's dream has come true. Let's hope this club doesn't fall to the depths of the Panthers and others…
 
@seijai said:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/coach-tim-sheens-quits-wests-tigers-after-10-years-in-charge/story-e6frexs9-1226480601339

TIM Sheens has quit as Wests Tigers coach following a revolt from his players.

He reached a settlement with the club yesterday to walk away after 10 years at the helm.

Sheens told Tigers players and officials yesterday afternoon he was no longer going to be involved at the club, and speculation immediately turned to him possibly switching to the New Zealand Warriors.

It is understood Sheens reached a compromise payout agreement regarding the final two years of his contract.

A Tigers board meeting last night to decide Sheens' future was cancelled and the club is believed to be holding off on a formal announcement to allow Sheens to sort out a deal with the Warriors.

Under the terms of Sheens' contract, he was to be paid the full amount of his $450,000-a-year deal if he was sacked. But the club baulked at a parting payment of $900,000.

While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Sheens is also thought to have told his longtime colleague Brian Hyder that the football manager too won't be at the Tigers next season.

In recent days the pressure to oust Sheens became apparent as leading players openly expressed displeasure over the departures of club favourites Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to the Sharks.

Sheens and the Tigers came to an agreement over the payout terms, while a new deal with New Zealand would likely cover the shortfall if it eventuated.

Sheens is keen to retain the Kangaroos job, presenting the curious situation where he could have to coach against a Kiwi side packed with his Warriors players should he take the Auckland job.

Tim Sheens - Tigers
Tim Sheens - Tigers

Source: The Daily Telegraph

Candidates for the Tigers job include Melbourne assistant coach Kevin Walters and Manly and NSW assistant coach Matt Parish.

Sheens, who guided the joint-venture club to the 2005 premiership, is understood to have spoken to Warriors executives yesterday about a possible deal.

Warriors chairman Bill Wavish is expected to fly to London within days to discuss candidates for the coaching gig with club owners Eric Watson and Owen Glenn.

While the Tigers failed to make the top eight this year, the real problems began when Ryan and Heighington confirmed last week they were defecting to Cronulla.

Marshall was furious, particularly as he has a close relationship with both players.

He made his feelings known in an explosive confrontation with club chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

With popular prop Bryce Gibbs having departed last year, also to the Sharks, some of the remaining players felt the club was being ripped apart because of its inability to retain long-serving stars.

That story confirms exactly what George said,Ink may be saddling up for a big slice of humble pie,although not official from the club,it is looking bang on.
 
There are conflicting stories in this morning's media regarding the future of Tim Sheens, with some papers claiming he has already quit.

[Sydney Morning Herald reports:](http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/sheens-to-leave-tigers–report-20120925-26htx.html)

Wests Tigers coach Tim Sheens has reportedly quit as coach as the NRL club after ten years following days of player unrest.

News Limited reports Sheens told the players and club of his decision Monday afternoon and a scheduled board meeting at the club, to discuss his future, failed to take place on Monday night.

There was a backlash from players upset at the cleanout being undertaken by the club.

It is believed the Tigers are working on a financial settlement with the four-time premiership-winning mentor, who has two years remaining on his contract believed to be worth $450,000 a season.

The cash-strapped joint venture would struggle to pay out the deal in full as well as find the funds to hire a replacement coach.

There was speculation Sheens might be hired by the New Zealand Warriors and that would lessen the payout from Tigers.

Manly assistant coach Matt Parish, who had a brief yet unsuccessful head coaching stint with English Super League club Salford last year, is the favourite to replace Sheens.
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[News Limited are running with:](http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/tim-sheens-issues-goodbyes-as-wests-tigers-delay-call/story-fnca0von-1226480586812)WESTS Tigers chief executive Steve Humphreys is set to table his review into Tim Sheens at a board meeting this afternoon amid speculation the four-time premiership winning coach has begun saying his goodbyes to players and staff.

Sheens was expected to be given his marching orders at an extraordinary board meeting last night but the meeting was postponed at the last minute and will now take place today.

It emerged that the meeting had been postponed because Humphreys had not finalised his review into Sheens's performance and the club's disastrous season.

The Tigers had been favoured to win the premiership at the start of the season after making it to the preliminary finals last year but they underachieved this year and finished in 10th place.

Sources said Sheens still had some supporters on the board who were keen to keep him involved in some capacity, possibly as a coaching director. That would negate the Tigers having to pay out his $450,000 a year deal, which expires at the end of 2014.

But it appears unlikely he will remain, with reports that Sheens had told some of his staff, including football manager Bryan Hider, that there would be no job for them next year.

He is also believed to have telephone some players to tell them he was leaving.

It was suggested yesterday that part of the delay in getting rid of Sheens had to do with the New Zealand Warriors, who are on the hunt for a new coach after letting Brian McClennan go just before the end of the regular season.

Warriors officials were said to be in Australia over the past few days to interview candidates and there was speculation last night Sheens had asked for a 24-hour extension to negotiate a deal.

Clouding the issue is the fact that Sheens is the Australian Test coach and it could be hard for him to continue in that role if he lived in Auckland.

The issue at the Tigers exploded last week after the club let favourite sons Chris Heighington and Beau Ryan leave to sign deals with the Cronulla Sharks from next season.

Their exit came on top of the club's decision last year to release Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita in a bid to open the salary cap to sign Melbourne backrower Adam Blair. Blair has failed to achieve his potential this year.

The exit of key personnel involved in the 2005 premiership win is said to have alienated Sheens from the rest of the team, including two of his most powerful allies in captain Robbie Farah and five-eighth Benji Marshall.

Farah is off contract at the end of next year and has been linked to Parramatta. Former NSW coach Ricky Stuart will take over the Eels next year. The Tigers have been linked with no shortage of replacements, including Melbourne assistant Kevin Walters, Manly assistant Matt Parish, and Tigers defensive coach Steve Georgallis.

Sheens's former assistant Royce Simmons is said to be in talks with the club about returning after a stint with St Helens but is not in line for the top job.

[While the Daily Telegraph goes all-out:](http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/coach-tim-sheens-quits-wests-tigers-after-10-years-in-charge/story-e6frfgg6-1226480601339)

TIM Sheens has quit as Wests Tigers coach following a revolt from his players.

He reached a settlement with the club yesterday to walk away after 10 years at the helm.

Sheens told Tigers players and officials yesterday afternoon he was no longer going to be involved at the club, and speculation immediately turned to him possibly switching to the New Zealand Warriors.

It is understood Sheens reached a compromise payout agreement regarding the final two years of his contract.

A Tigers board meeting last night to decide Sheens' future was cancelled and the club is believed to be holding off on a formal announcement to allow Sheens to sort out a deal with the Warriors.

Under the terms of Sheens' contract, he was to be paid the full amount of his $450,000-a-year deal if he was sacked. But the club baulked at a parting payment of $900,000.

While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Sheens is also thought to have told his longtime colleague Brian Hyder that the football manager too won't be at the Tigers next season.

In recent days the pressure to oust Sheens became apparent as leading players openly expressed displeasure over the departures of club favourites Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to the Sharks.

Sheens and the Tigers came to an agreement over the payout terms, while a new deal with New Zealand would likely cover the shortfall if it eventuated.

Sheens is keen to retain the Kangaroos job, presenting the curious situation where he could have to coach against a Kiwi side packed with his Warriors players should he take the Auckland job.

[Original Article](//news/club-news/2-news-a-views/521-sheens-reported-to-have-quit)
 
first mention of kevin walters

no quotes from anyone though.. not even "a source who refused to be named"
 
@tig_prmz said:
first mention of kevin walters

no quotes from anyone though.. not even "a source who refused to be named"

He had a radio interview with Triple M in Brisbane and when asked if he was linked to the job he said "I can't say no". There's your source.

Imma go with the DT on this one, I hate the publication and I think alot of their editorial stuff is rubbish, but they are generally on the money with these kinds of breaking stories.

I just cannot BELIEVE that 6-7 months ago, we were in a premiership window, and today we are coach less and in a restructuring phase. That's pathetic from a club in this day and age.
 
I am excited about the future actually. The first decision is the most critical though, get the right person in charge.
 
@Bismark said:
@tig_prmz said:
first mention of kevin walters

no quotes from anyone though.. not even "a source who refused to be named"

He had a radio interview with Triple M in Brisbane and when asked if he was linked to the job he said "I can't say no". There's your source.

Imma go with the DT on this one, I hate the publication and I think alot of their editorial stuff is rubbish, but they are generally on the money with these kinds of breaking stories.

I just cannot BELIEVE that 6-7 months ago, we were in a premiership window, and today we are coach less and in a restructuring phase. That's pathetic from a club in this day and age.

i meant no source as in sheens quit source
 
@LaT said:
I am excited about the future actually. The first decision is the most critical though, get the right person in charge.

im trying not to tbh. until the season starts and we are a couple games into the season, i'll make sure i dont get high hopes or any hopes
 
I am over it. Just get on with it. The Tigers are now the joke of the league. Sack him or pay him out and name a new coach. It doesn't matter who they name as coach must people on this forum will start bagging the new coach after the first trial game. All the arm chair critics should just keep quiet and support this team. That includes the good times and bad times.
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@LaT said:
While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Now we know its just the DT and no direct quotes so nothing is proven, BUT if that part was true then it speaks volumes on just how far Sheens had fallen.

He leaves us in a better position then when he arrived, there is no argument or debate. Look at our NYC/NSW Cup sides and structures, our current playing roster and the fact we have a premiership in the cabinet.

However he ended up in 2012, I say thanks Tim. Good luck for the future. Now bring on 2013!

It tells me he's not much of a man….if true.
 
@CC's Tigers said:
I am over it. Just get on with it. The Tigers are now the joke of the league. Sack him or pay him out and name a new coach. It doesn't matter who they name as coach must people on this forum will start bagging the new coach after the first trial game. All the arm chair critics should just keep quiet and support this team. That includes the good times and bad times.
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Do you support a CEO that makes it possible for him to throw away close to $1m?

It seems we got a bit lucky there….but how can you support incompetence such as this, and ALL the other incompetencies
I will always support the club, but I find it very difficult to turn a blind eye to this sort of mismanagement

I'll never understand people who cannot see things for what they are...I know love is blind, but some decent constructive criticism keeps people on their toes.
 
Lots of speculation, nothing of substance. I think that sums up the DT.

I'll wait until it's official. I'm over all the hype and speculation that has turned us from the club we were into turmoil in such a short time. These things should never be played out in public.
 
Ink: I'll never understand people who cannot see things for what they are…

Everyone sees things for what they are. They just don't always see things the same way you do! There's a big difference between fact and opinion. The forum is about opinion. None of us are in a position to know "facts" when it comes to the inner working of the club. If that's factually wrong, I am happy to be corrected.
 
You say some constructive criticism is fine. But all you read is nothing more then negative bagging. How many people on this forum have coached an A grade team or run a company. Not too many I think. Too many arm chair critics
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@CC's Tigers said:
You say some constructive criticism is fine. But all you read is nothing more then negative bagging. How many people on this forum have coached an A grade team or run a company. Not too many I think. Too many arm chair critics
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This is called a forum, is it not?
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