Sheensy needs to do the right thing........

Stale as 3 week old bread! Everyone can see it, except the players and Sheens himself. It's really sad seeing them play well below what they are capable of for two thirds of every year.

Sheensy needs to do the right thing alright…but he won't.
 
I'm pretty sure during the Lewis negotiations i read that the Tigers showed him around an apartment complex where a number of players supposedly live as does Sheens :crazy
 
Benji has said many times - including after a previous failure - that he loves the 5/8 position and wants to keep the #6\. So he gets put into halfback.

Farah finds massive form in the City V Country clash and said he liked playing alongside Pearce because it allowed him to concentrate on his hooking role. So for most of the season at club level he has to put up with inadequacies in the #7 - and now he may be back playing there himself!

We have a very promising young #7 who has not been given a proper go in the top grade at a time when the team desperately needed a natural half-back, not a manufactured one.

What is wrong with picture?! And gosh, I'm sure I've seen it before?

I think it is safe to say that the team, as a whole, is under-acheiving and this is a big reason. That is the coaches domain. It is said Miller's attitude might not be great but when will the good of the team become paramount above egos?
 
Some good points in this thread.

My gripe with Sheens has never been about individual games. In many cases, I believe he has a capable game plan, but as many agree our players have not executed this. In the semi finals in the last two years, poor plays by Marshall and Farah cost us. This year, Marshall has been absolutely dreadful and has also been a factor as to why we are no longer a dangerous attacking side.

However, surely Sheens is ultimately responsible for this? The buck stops with the head coach, it's as simple as that. Questions need to be asked about why he is trying to turn the best runner of the ball in the game into a catch and pass merchant. Benji has always and will always be an instinctive player, why is he trying to change that? Poor recruitment and the inability to find a halfback to partner Benji post-Lui falls on Sheens, nobody else. Now I realise the loss of Lui is not Sheens' fault, but failing to find a halfback isn't exactly something new. This is the same person who persisted with Morris at half for almost three years when it was painfully obvious to anyone that he wasn't a halfbacks arsehole.

In regards to this year, I believe Sheens is ultimately responsible for the following:

- Going into the season two props short. This contributed to our early season woes and our poor start. This also threw a young player to the wolves (Groat) so much so that his confidence is still affected even months later.

- Poor bench use. Nothing more needs to be said. This happens almost every week and is absolutely killing us. Look at the first half: played at a frantic pace, we picked up two injuries and yet he only made two interchanges. It's absolutely ridiculous.

- Playing players out of position. Moltzen is not a fullback. Lawrence is not a five eighth. Ayshford is not a five eighth. Fulton is not a hooker. And so on. How hard is it to replace a prop with a prop, or a hooker with a hooker. And please don't dare tell me there was nobody to replace these players with. It's rubbish. We have a talented 20s side and the BRET side to use.

- Refusal to drop underperforming players. In the past six or so years I can only recall two players being dropped for poor form (Fitzhenry and Ayshford). Both were back in one week. These players know they can underperform without consequence, they know they will never be dropped. This breeds mediocrity. There are players who will be picked every week despite performing well under par.

- Failing to give a halfback a proper run. Lui was clearly the only player Sheens trusted. He's tried other players there, but only for a few games and even if they have performed well they've been punted. Why hasn't Miller been given a go? Why did Humble get dropped, despite playing reasonably well? Why was Sironen clearly instructed to get out of the way and let Benji run the show?

- Persisting with a lack of speed out wide. We have zero pace at the back. Why does Reddy keep getting picked? Despite an injury to Tuqiri we still see no fresh injection of pace. Why will it likely take a crippling injury toll to see some fresh players blooded?

I've no doubt missed a few other points.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
Some good points in this thread.

However, surely Sheens is ultimately responsible for this? The buck stops with the head coach, it's as simple as that. Questions need to be asked about why he is trying to turn the best runner of the ball in the game into a catch and pass merchant. Benji has always and will always be an instinctive player, why is he trying to change that? Poor recruitment and the inability to find a halfback to partner Benji post-Lui falls on Sheens, nobody else. Now I realise the loss of Lui is not Sheens' fault, but failing to find a halfback isn't exactly something new. This is the same person who persisted with Morris at half for almost three years when it was painfully obvious to anyone that he wasn't a halfbacks arsehole.

I've no doubt missed a few other points.

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@hybrid_tiger said:
Some good points in this thread.

My gripe with Sheens has never been about individual games. In many cases, I believe he has a capable game plan, but as many agree our players have not executed this. In the semi finals in the last two years, poor plays by Marshall and Farah cost us. This year, Marshall has been absolutely dreadful and has also been a factor as to why we are no longer a dangerous attacking side.

However, surely Sheens is ultimately responsible for this? The buck stops with the head coach, it's as simple as that. Questions need to be asked about why he is trying to turn the best runner of the ball in the game into a catch and pass merchant. Benji has always and will always be an instinctive player, why is he trying to change that? Poor recruitment and the inability to find a halfback to partner Benji post-Lui falls on Sheens, nobody else. Now I realise the loss of Lui is not Sheens' fault, but failing to find a halfback isn't exactly something new. This is the same person who persisted with Morris at half for almost three years when it was painfully obvious to anyone that he wasn't a halfbacks arsehole.

In regards to this year, I believe Sheens is ultimately responsible for the following:

- Going into the season two props short. This contributed to our early season woes and our poor start. This also threw a young player to the wolves (Groat) so much so that his confidence is still affected even months later.

- Poor bench use. Nothing more needs to be said. This happens almost every week and is absolutely killing us. Look at the first half: played at a frantic pace, we picked up two injuries and yet he only made two interchanges. It's absolutely ridiculous.

- Playing players out of position. Moltzen is not a fullback. Lawrence is not a five eighth. Ayshford is not a five eighth. Fulton is not a hooker. And so on. How hard is it to replace a prop with a prop, or a hooker with a hooker. And please don't dare tell me there was nobody to replace these players with. It's rubbish. We have a talented 20s side and the BRET side to use.

- Refusal to drop underperforming players. In the past six or so years I can only recall two players being dropped for poor form (Fitzhenry and Ayshford). Both were back in one week. These players know they can underperform without consequence, they know they will never be dropped. This breeds mediocrity. There are players who will be picked every week despite performing well under par.

- Failing to give a halfback a proper run. Lui was clearly the only player Sheens trusted. He's tried other players there, but only for a few games and even if they have performed well they've been punted. Why hasn't Miller been given a go? Why did Humble get dropped, despite playing reasonably well? Why was Sironen clearly instructed to get out of the way and let Benji run the show?

- Persisting with a lack of speed out wide. We have zero pace at the back. Why does Reddy keep getting picked? Despite an injury to Tuqiri we still see no fresh injection of pace. Why will it likely take a crippling injury toll to see some fresh players blooded?

I've no doubt missed a few other points.

I am with you all the way hybrid_tiger ! I am so pissed of with sheen's , he has lost it big time . Until he is pensioned off this nightmare will continue . For the sake of all the supporters mental health , please sheen's piss off .
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No I think you've pretty well covered it, Hybrid. Enduring the above-mentioned scenario every year is akin to having a tap constantly dripping on your forehead!
 
@Rambo2714 said:
It is simple ….

Every time we lose we should sack the current coach and find a new coach , For
The following reasons :

-it is easy to find a good coach
-when you get a new coach you are guaranteed immediate success and improvement
- There is no risk of the new coach Allie acting players , like happened to Luke Lewis and penrith
- new players are more likely to play at club who like parramatta who sack
The coach every time they have a poor season
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I've been antis heebs for years. I have no doubt he's a good coach and our performances in. 2010 and 11 prove that.

However I agree with an injection of fresh ideas into the club and would be happy if sheens stood aside
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