Should we scream at the WT's with our wallets in 2020

[happy_tiger]

Should we speak to the WT's with our wallets in 2020 That is my question

I woke up this morning and am thinking of telling the family to get me a BCF voucher for the same amount of a WT's membership

After listening to Pascoe last night on NRL 360 we are again in another rebuilding phase which will start in 2021 when we roll the roster over

Justin ....remind me .....is this the same roster you signed off on

Justin is this roster the same You organized for the coach You hand picked which left at the first sign of trouble

Something from the whole Cleary fiasco that stands out is this ....when Ivan was asked about Nathan coming to the WT's it was never raised during the interview process when he was hired

For me is Ivan was the "chosen one " that question HAS to be one of the first 3 questions asked , doesn't it

So as Paul Kent asked last night and you danced around better than Ali danced around the ring is this "why should WT's fans put up with another rebuild"

Why should WT's we potentially face a minimum of 11 years without a finals appearance

Last night's interview just about broke my spirit as a WT's supporter

So if or when Maguire doesn't take us to the promised land , the club listen to the drums beating and get tempted to sack Maguire what then ..another rebuild

I can't find last nights interview to attach it this thread , but if someone can it would be greatly appreciated so we can give an even assessment of his thoughts

Is it just butthurt or do I and many other WT's fans have a right to be royally pissed off

Is it time we tell the club we are sick of the crap and show our disgust be not renewing our memberships .....

Thoughts

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Yeah, I've had a gutfull of the constant rebuild phase loop also. it astounds me that memberships are always increasing while the club stumbles and fumbles its way through salary cap stuff ups and mediocre performances year after year. Must be a lot of masochists out there! Either that or the club is lying about membership numbers...but they wouldn't do that, would they?

 

[happy_tiger]

Yeah, I've had a gutfull of the constant rebuild phase loop also. it astounds me that memberships are always increasing while the club stumbles and fumbles its way through salary cap stuff ups and mediocre performances year after year. Must be a lot of masochists out there! Either that or the club is lying about membership numbers...but they wouldn't do that, would they?

Look Spud I could be wrong with memberships , but my understanding is you have multiple grounds in your memberships they know count as separate memberships ...add the pet in , that is a different membership again

So the figures are padded .....actual members could be less than in previous years

 

[Telltails]

Try getting a decent coach to any club if they dont have control over the playing roster. Cleary got the players he wanted and the player managers made sure they got the best deals.
Yes the CEO signed off on them but he did not select the players and if half of them performed at a level that is expected of them we wouldnt be having this discussion.

 

[Geo]

Yes that will help...not..

The Club is what matters not the individuals that make it up..the Club will always have my financial support as they have since 2000...taking it away only hurts the Club further but each to there own..

Maybe a rally might help with placards and pitch forks or wear your jersey inside out...

 

[hobbo1]

Should we speak to the WT's with our wallets in 2020 That is my question

I woke up this morning and am thinking of telling the family to get me a BCF voucher for the same amount of a WT's membership

After listening to Pascoe last night on NRL 360 we are again in another rebuilding phase which will start in 2021 when we roll the roster over

Justin ....remind me .....is this the same roster you signed off on

Justin is this roster the same You organized for the coach You hand picked which left at the first sign of trouble

Something from the whole Cleary fiasco that stands out is this ....when Ivan was asked about Nathan coming to the WT's it was never raised during the interview process when he was hired

For me is Ivan was the "chosen one " that question HAS to be one of the first 3 questions asked , doesn't it

So as Paul Kent asked last night and you danced around better than Ali danced around the ring is this "why should WT's fans put up with another rebuild"

Why should WT's we potentially face a minimum of 11 years without a finals appearance

Last night's interview just about broke my spirit as a WT's supporter

So if or when Maguire doesn't take us to the promised land , the club listen to the drums beating and get tempted to sack Maguire what then ..another rebuild

I can't find last nights interview to attach it this thread , but if someone can it would be greatly appreciated so we can give an even assessment of his thoughts

Is it just butthurt or do I and many other WT's fans have a right to be royally pissed off

Is it time we tell the club we are sick of the crap and show our disgust be not renewing our memberships .....

Thoughts

I’d like to riot at Concord...
Burn effigys and car tyres , throw bricks !

Membership lmao ...what’s that ?

 

[happy_tiger]

Yes that will help...not..

The Club is what matters not the individuals that make it up..the Club will always have my financial support as they have since 2000...taking it away only hurts the Club further but each to there own..

Maybe a rally might help with placards and pitch forks or wear your jersey inside out...

So how do your actions help the club .......

Basically you are telling them its OK if they continually screw up

Do you use the same mentality when you buy a car , buy a pie that tastes like crap , have a Dr who makes errors , pick a real estate agent who can't sell your house , buy sub standard furniture ,electrical , a financial advisor who stuffs up your future finances ......

 

[happy_tiger]

I guess the question is why some coaches make do ie Hasler at Manly ......yet we need a complete overhaul .......

 

[tiger05premier]

IC screwed

Yes it hurts not playing finals footy and always rebuilding

But didn't IC ask for complete control of the team he was going to be coaching?

The club showed some faith in him and than the man that's a bigger grub than MM walked out

Now Madge just has to deal with what he has been left with

Not ideal but thanks IC you grub

 

[Geo]

Yes that will help...not..

The Club is what matters not the individuals that make it up..the Club will always have my financial support as they have since 2000...taking it away only hurts the Club further but each to there own..

Maybe a rally might help with placards and pitch forks or wear your jersey inside out...

So how do your actions help the club .......

Basically you are telling them its OK if they continually screw up

Do you use the same mentality when you buy a car , buy a pie that tastes like crap , have a Dr who makes errors , pick a real estate agent who can't sell your house , buy sub standard furniture ,electrical , a financial advisor who stuffs up your future finances ......

So withdrawing financial support will make them make better decisions..lol

Good luck with that..as I said each to there own...If people think it will help go for it..

 

[happy_tiger]

IC screwed

Yes it hurts not playing finals footy and always rebuilding

But didn't IC ask for complete control of the team he was going to be coaching?

The club showed some faith in him and than the man that's a bigger grub than MM walked out

Now Madge just has to deal with what he has been left with

Not ideal but thanks IC you grub

My question to that is answered in my opening point ....if we asked one single question ...an extremely important question ...we would have seen Ivan's thought process and mindset .....we can't sign Nathan ...Ivan wants out and to coach his son

I hire people all the time .....if they don't work out ...it's my fault either way

I either hired the wrong person or didn't find out how that person clicked to get the best out of them

Either way ...my fault

 

[Telltails]

@happy_tiger Hasler's roster at Manly leaves ours for dead. Add the T brothers Marty and DCE to any squad and you increase your chances of winning. What a difference any one if those players would make to our squad.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yes that will help...not..

The Club is what matters not the individuals that make it up..the Club will always have my financial support as they have since 2000...taking it away only hurts the Club further but each to there own..

Maybe a rally might help with placards and pitch forks or wear your jersey inside out...

So how do your actions help the club .......

Basically you are telling them its OK if they continually screw up

Do you use the same mentality when you buy a car , buy a pie that tastes like crap , have a Dr who makes errors , pick a real estate agent who can't sell your house , buy sub standard furniture ,electrical , a financial advisor who stuffs up your future finances ......

So withdrawing financial support will make them make better decisions..lol

Good luck with that..as I said each to there own...If people think it will help go for it..

Accountability works ...happens at many other NRL clubs .....we should try it one day

 

[Roar_Power]

This rebuild highlights the poor decisions we make on who we pay as a marquee player also. Have not been able to offload Reynolds, Mats, Packer but Penrith easily ridded themselves of Blake and DWZ to better their cap position. Why? Because they buy quality in the first place where we buy duds.

 

[Geo]

Yes that will help...not..

The Club is what matters not the individuals that make it up..the Club will always have my financial support as they have since 2000...taking it away only hurts the Club further but each to there own..

Maybe a rally might help with placards and pitch forks or wear your jersey inside out...

So how do your actions help the club .......

Basically you are telling them its OK if they continually screw up

Do you use the same mentality when you buy a car , buy a pie that tastes like crap , have a Dr who makes errors , pick a real estate agent who can't sell your house , buy sub standard furniture ,electrical , a financial advisor who stuffs up your future finances ......

So withdrawing financial support will make them make better decisions..lol

Good luck with that..as I said each to there own...If people think it will help go for it..

Accountability works ...happens at many other NRL clubs .....we should try it one day

Might work better if you withdrew it from the the power brokers that fund the joint say Wests Ashfield..but I don't think they would care much..Lucky 88 would still have free spins..

 

[tiger05premier]

@happy_tiger true HT but my point was that IC got what he wanted and than just bided his time with us

He was someone JP really trusted

Yes it all comes back to JP for giving him that power but at least JP has learnt the toughest of lessons out of that almighty mistake

I still have faith in him and I'm sure he is more determined than ever to get this club moving forward

 

[happy_tiger]

@happy_tiger Hasler's roster at Manly leaves ours for dead. Add the T brothers Marty and DCE to any squad and you increase your chances of winning. What a difference any one if those players would make to our squad.

Didn't Marty play for the W .....never mind

Funny when we see other clubs and we laugh how they don't sack coaches .....maybe there is a big reason they don't sack coach after coach after coach

I know many had pot shots at me for wanting both Potter to stay and JT to see out contracts ...players coming to a squad want to see stability ...not want to be here for 12 months and then see a different coach they had NO intention of playing under when they signed

I've said it a few times and I'm not knocking Maguire when I say this but he isn't everyone's cup of tea

I'm not saying this happened but here is an example ...some blokes play better football carrying a few extra kgs like a Thaiday ....Packer

Some coaches like a Cleary or Bennett are people coaches ....as long as you perform ....

Some coaches like Madge have an all in mentality ....if it is good for him to do ...everyone does it

Watch the Johns podcast last night talking to Sam Burgess .....he puts it very well

 

[TheDaBoss]

I guess not?

 

[happy_tiger]

@happy_tiger true HT but my point was that IC got what he wanted and than just bided his time with us

He was someone JP really trusted

Yes it all comes back to JP for giving him that power but at least JP has learnt the toughest of lessons out of that almighty mistake

I still have faith in him and I'm sure he is more determined than ever to get this club moving forward

Did you watch last night NRL 360 ..if you can watch it ......he is asked some big questions and basically ignores them ....even uses a comment made by Ikin in regards to a 6 month holiday in Fiji as a joke

Then he talks about sitting in the crowd at Leichhardt Rd 1 and complains about the umbrellas ....now umbrellas are banned

That's really going to help crowd numbers isn't it ....looks like rain ......can't take an umbrella to keep the wife /girlfriend/kids/grandparents/self from getting wet unless I wear a poncho that is about as useful as a handkerchief in a cyclone ......

As I said to all if you can watch NRL 360 .....watch it

 

[tiger05premier]

@happy_tiger no I don't have Foxtel so haven't seen it