Should we scream at the WT's with our wallets in 2020

[Harvey]

We are a sinking ship. Didn’t Pascoe have a plan (must have picked it up from the Penrith 5 year plan) that saw us as a regular top 8 side, in the top 4 by now and likely to win a premiership?

We have done nothing but tread water since then.

As members we cannot force change by voting out board members, because our board is appointed by a gambling Mecca propped up with money from poker machines. They have no corporate reputation or performance history.

That club is motivated by profit above all else and it is only pride that sees them currently support a NRL level team. If the NRL venture cannot turn a profit, it is a matter of time before Ashfield sell us to the highest bidder.

I am 45 and think that within my lifetime we will no longer be based in Sydney or, if broadcasting revenue drops, existing at all.

 

[hammertime]

Even if you want to blame Pascoe for hiring Cleary and not questioning his signings to the point of overriding the coach, you don't think he's done enough good around the place to take the finger off the trigger?

Who serious thought at the time that Cleary was a bad signing? I dare say no one.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The coach is gone and so is the head of football, those are the two that should be held accountable for the roster for the most part.

Pascoe has managed to bring us to profit, fix the back loaded cap situation and get the funding to build a very expensive COE, without us having any substantial cash reserves or backing. All govt grants. That's an amazing feat.

I'm firmly on pascoes side. Anyone who thinks instability is better for the club right now, and those feats above shouldn't be rewarded, must be as thick as mud.

With the added drama of Balmain Leagues going into administration in the background as well.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Even if you want to blame Pascoe for hiring Cleary and not questioning his signings to the point of overriding the coach, you don't think he's done enough good around the place to take the finger off the trigger?

Who serious thought at the time that Cleary was a bad signing? I dare say no one.

If Pascoe should have checked off all of Cleary's signings, why didn't he just appoint himself the football manager, or saved the club two salaries and coached them as well?

 

[Geo]

Even if you want to blame Pascoe for hiring Cleary and not questioning his signings to the point of overriding the coach, you don't think he's done enough good around the place to take the finger off the trigger?

Who serious thought at the time that Cleary was a bad signing? I dare say no one.

If Pascoe should have checked off all of Cleary's signings, why didn't he just appoint himself the football manager, or saved the club two salaries and coached them as well?

He admitted himself on Fox he was responsible for list and cap management...that was from his mouth..

 

[Tigerdave]

Yeah hearing about this 2021 thing was disappointing to say the least. I thought we had cash, but clearly not. Although I guess we did have some cash until the NRL decided to be pedantic douchebags about the whole Robbie ambassador role thing

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Even if you want to blame Pascoe for hiring Cleary and not questioning his signings to the point of overriding the coach, you don't think he's done enough good around the place to take the finger off the trigger?

Who serious thought at the time that Cleary was a bad signing? I dare say no one.

If Pascoe should have checked off all of Cleary's signings, why didn't he just appoint himself the football manager, or saved the club two salaries and coached them as well?

He admitted himself on Fox he was responsible for list and cap management...that was from his mouth..

Indirectly he is. But honestly no one saw Ivan walking out on us the way he did. Things could have been very different if Ivan didn't screw the pooch. Blaming Pascoe for the situation now for not having ability to anticipate Cleary pulling the stunt he did is very black and white. It's an extremely nuanced situation.

 

[gallagher]

Even if you want to blame Pascoe for hiring Cleary and not questioning his signings to the point of overriding the coach, you don't think he's done enough good around the place to take the finger off the trigger?

Who serious thought at the time that Cleary was a bad signing? I dare say no one.

It's all that,but on top of that its the salary cap debacle and 5 home grounds that turned me off him. A $100 k profit when the NRL gives us 11mill a year isn't that impressive.
He's been saying the same thing in regards to the cap and roster for 4 years with nothing changing.

 

[Viking Warrior]

Cant even finish 8th in a 16 team comp for years on end. Sums it up for me

 

[Harvey]

Cant even finish 8th in a 16 team comp for years on end. Sums it up for me

The highest echelons of leadership at the club have not governance and no accountability. We are an amateur organisation in a professional competition.

As a life long wests fan, I will point out that people are looking at things the wrong way. Finishing 9th should not been seen as there are 8 teams better than you, it means that you are better than 7 teams.

 

[jirskyr]

If you blame the coach , you have to blame the person who hired the coach as well
Same way the coach cops it if the players aren’t mentally ready for a game , both are responsible

That comparison isn't appropriate. Coaches are hired to win football matches. CEOs are not.

Do you sack the coach if one of his roster doesn't play well?

Also Pascoe has only appointed 2 coaches and both were arguably good appointments.

So if you go after the bloke who hired the coach, what about the people who hired the bloke who hirs the coach? The CEO doesn't solely select the coa c, the Board does.