Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[colinbh]

NO

We already have lots of average plodders. We need impact players now. Super fast backs, or line breaking forwards.

And where are these superstars?

 

[hank37w]

SAS training for a month. Break them.

They're already broken, but not in a good way.

 

[weststigerman]

To soft
don’t want to upset people

Meanwhile in Brisbane players are vomiting in between sessions.

Look, it's impossible to judge what they're doing from a few photos, but I do hope when they have the bulk of the squad together that they focus on strength and conditioning. I don't want to see Galvin smashing everyone in every fitness drill.

 

[liltiger]

Meanwhile in Brisbane players are vomiting in between sessions.

Look, it's impossible to judge what they're doing from a few photos, but I do hope when they have the bulk of the squad together that they focus on strength and conditioning. I don't want to see Galvin smashing everyone in every fitness drill.

Hopefully next week they start getting hammered. This week would prob just be to get the younger guys togeather.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Hopefully next week they start getting hammered. This week would prob just be to get the younger guys togeather.

I'd say next week some of the 3rd to 5th year players will return who didn't play internationals like Staines, To'a, Pole & Sullivan. So next week could paint an interesting picture!!!

 

[wonka]

Wasn't Madge here for years our team was still weak and unfit.
Maybe it's the calibre of player we sign.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

A 1000 piece jigsaw with only 994 pieces.

Always ends well...

Would've hoped there'll be a few more pieces than just KH

Wasn't Johnny Bateman the last piece of the puzzle? Or is that puzzle now in the Vinnie's shopfront window.

 

[Lestronge]

Meanwhile in Brisbane players are vomiting in between sessions.

Look, it's impossible to judge what they're doing from a few photos, but I do hope when they have the bulk of the squad together that they focus on strength and conditioning. I don't want to see Galvin smashing everyone in every fitness drill.

Man you can’t maintain the rage for 6 months . To train that hard , that early , is not proven to work . It burns people out .
If anyone has ever done the training for the barrier test / carter course , it builds up over a 16 week training program , so you’re peaking just before the carter course / sas selection begins (the nrl season) .
I get what Madge is doing , but he will need to back off in a few weeks , or he will lose the dressing room , real quick.
Each to their own , but just from my own personal experience , I watched guys go hell for leather doing the pre selection training , and by week 12 they were done . Either injured , or mentally burnt out . It builds for a reason .
Our issue at the tigers is I don’t think we started from a strong base , so I think we did build but not to a good enough standard . We need to lift standards . I’m not convinced that’s achieved by burning everyone out in week 1 .

 

[Fish88]

If given the choice, who would people prefer at 13, Kobe Hetherington or Brandon Smith?

 

[Wiz]

Wasn't Madge here for years our team was still weak and unfit.
Maybe it's the calibre of player we sign.

This is exactly the reason. Because a lot of our squad is below average in physical metrics (height, weight, speed, endurance, explosive power, etc) even when fully fit we find it difficult to compete against most teams.

It may well be combined with not training well enough (e.g. Blore saying it’s tougher at the Storm) but a big part of our lack of competitiveness is the (inferior) quality of athlete we sign or bring through more often than not.

 

[Roar_Power]

If given the choice, who would people prefer at 13, Kobe Hetherington or Brandon Smith?

KH hands down.

 

[bptiger 0]

Look it all boils down to a few points
1) we need may and Kobe , without reinforcements in the forwards , not even Bennett could get us out of trouble
2) if I was coach I would employ the best fitness coach I could find . Also employ the best defensive coach , no room for friends or ex players
3 ) with our good backline my main focus would be setting up plays once inside there 30 metre , also work on plays from the scrum , this is a area that u can score points from
4) but again it all comes down to what sire of a forward pack we put out

 

[Bob]

Man you can’t maintain the rage for 6 months . To train that hard , that early , is not proven to work . It burns people out .
If anyone has ever done the training for the barrier test / carter course , it builds up over a 16 week training program , so you’re peaking just before the carter course / sas selection begins (the nrl season) .
I get what Madge is doing , but he will need to back off in a few weeks , or he will lose the dressing room , real quick.
Each to their own , but just from my own personal experience , I watched guys go hell for leather doing the pre selection training , and by week 12 they were done . Either injured , or mentally burnt out . It builds for a reason .
Our issue at the tigers is I don’t think we started from a strong base , so I think we did build but not to a good enough standard . We need to lift standards . I’m not convinced that’s achieved by t burning everyone out in week 1 .

isn’t that essentially what they do, bring them young guys in hit fitness hard 7 weeks with the rookies to bring fitness base up, then break for Xmas.

in the new year everyone comes back trains for fitness for 12 weeks, until the season starts then training Is more about skills, analysis and recovery. With Fitness and Strength is now “maintained“ not getting built? (Unless injured)

 

[Robbie's Love Child]

This is exactly the reason. Because a lot of our squad is below average in physical metrics (height, weight, speed, endurance, explosive power, etc) even when fully fit we find it difficult to compete against most teams.

It may well be combined with not training well enough (e.g. Blore saying it’s tougher at the Storm) but a big part of our lack of competitiveness is the (inferior) quality of athlete we sign or bring through more often than not.

Madge the myth, train them till they spew and still produce poo results. He is only good with superstars.

 

[weststigerman]

Man you can’t maintain the rage for 6 months . To train that hard , that early , is not proven to work . It burns people out .
If anyone has ever done the training for the barrier test / carter course , it builds up over a 16 week training program , so you’re peaking just before the carter course / sas selection begins (the nrl season) .
I get what Madge is doing , but he will need to back off in a few weeks , or he will lose the dressing room , real quick.
Each to their own , but just from my own personal experience , I watched guys go hell for leather doing the pre selection training , and by week 12 they were done . Either injured , or mentally burnt out . It builds for a reason .
Our issue at the tigers is I don’t think we started from a strong base , so I think we did build but not to a good enough standard . We need to lift standards . I’m not convinced that’s achieved by burning everyone out in week 1 .

Yeah it's not 100% for 6 months straight, but you only have to look at what happened with Blore/Olam to know our training intensity is not up to scratch.

Olam started well with us but gradually got worse, Blore started in reserves and eventually started with Melbourne every week. Obviously he wasn't training hard enough when he was here, and he said as much about Melbourne's training intensity.

We have had the worst roster for a while, but I think we blame the roster too much for our lack of work ethic and preparation.

 

[weststigerman]

Madge the myth, train them till they spew and still produce poo results. He is only good with superstars teams that aren't Wests Tigers.

Fixed it for you

 

[BAGNF05]

Madge the myth, train them till they spew and still produce poo results. He is only good with superstars.

Name a highly regarded coach that won without superstars.

 

[Bob]

Name a highly regarded coach that won without superstars.

Fatty, Wayne Bennett at Origin level. Whoever was coaching the “baby broncos” that absolutely smashed us that year…

 

[BAGNF05]

Fatty, Wayne Bennett at Origin level. Whoever was coaching the “baby broncos” that absolutely smashed us that year…

Fatty and Bennett always had superstars for QLD. Both teams were understrength in a crazy period when Fatty had his 3-0 win.

A one-off win against WT hardly counts as winning.

Players win , coaches just make sure they’re rowing in the one direction.

 

[happy_tiger]

Meanwhile in Brisbane players are vomiting in between sessions.

Look, it's impossible to judge what they're doing from a few photos, but I do hope when they have the bulk of the squad together that they focus on strength and conditioning. I don't want to see Galvin smashing everyone in every fitness drill.

Supposedly Bronco players were given a spew bucket before training started ...