Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Deleted member 3518]

yes I want 2-3 hard heads in the forwards, that's where we fall down every season, u can get by with less experienced backs but u need hard nuts up front, most of our forwards are young they need leaders in the pack. if madge is looking for players either here or overseas ,and scores a couple of good ones then maybe are chances improve, but as it stands not getting the spoon will be a pass.

All I'm going to say is NO! Have a look at the 30. The forwards are set , for better or worse . The remaining spots should and will be filled by backs and a utility/dummy half .

 

[tiger_one]

How do you rebuild an NRL club if you can't sign – and keep – players?

By Neil Breen
December 28, 2019 — 1.00pm

The evidence is in: despite a salary cap and an even distribution of grants, the NRL operates on a haves and have-nots basis.

And, until it is somehow equalised, thoughts of expansion by adding a second Brisbane team are folly. The existing house needs order first.

All the evidence we need was laid bare in the contract wrangling over Jai Arrow and Latrell Mitchell.

Mitchell is unhappy at the Roosters and, in turn, the Roosters are unhappy with him for being unhappy with them. So a parting of the ways is on.

The biggest offer for Mitchell came from Wests Tigers. He basically didn’t even return their phone call.

Now he’s interested in playing for the Rabbitohs on way less than the Tigers offered. Maybe even less than the Roosters’ offer of $800,000 a season.

Arrow is the type of player you could build a club around – so that’s what South Sydney will do with all their spare Sam Burgess cash. He’s signed with them for $800,000 a season from 2021-25 (plus third-party deals). But expect him to be there next year as well. He’s on less than $500,000 at the Titans for 2020 and the Rabbitohs will offer someone up and get him early.

The Titans wanted to build the club around him to them lift off the bottom of the pile.

But as soon as Arrow was able to negotiate with other clubs – a ridiculous 12 months out from the end of his existing deal – he was shopped everywhere and is gone.

The Titans have had issues in the past – most notably when many in the team were more focused on buying cocaine than winning an NRL match – but that is in the distant past.

They have new, passionate owners – Gold Coast locals and top-class business people like Rebecca Frizelle – a top, vastly experienced chairman in Dennis Watt, formerly a long-term News Corp executive who himself was a first-grader at Norths in the Brisbane competition back in the Joe Kilroy days. Watt stamped himself as a top league executive when handed the job of cleaning up News Corp’s mess in the wake of the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal.

None other than Immortal Mal Meninga is the club’s head of football and culture. They've also got a new coach, with no baggage, in Justin Holbrook.

The challenge for clubs such as the Titans and the Tigers, perennial bottom-eight teams, is enticing players to the club who are good enough to drive you into the top eight. Then you have to get them to stick around.

Arrow is an interesting case. A Gold Coast native, he played juniors for Burleigh Bears before being scooped up into the Broncos’ system. Wayne Bennett handed him a first-grade debut in 2016 and, after 25 top-grade matches, he decided to head home to the Gold Coast.

In his two seasons there, the Titans finished 14th and last, and now he’s out of there, enticed by the culture and prospect of long-term success at the Rabbitohs, a club that, ironically, has won one premiership in the past 48 seasons.

A club with as many premierships in that time, Wests Tigers, also made a big play for Arrow and came up with nothing – as they did with Mitchell.

Why do the Tigers struggle to sign these players? It’s a question the club has to answer honestly after looking hard in the mirror.

Is it the lack of a home: training at Concord, playing at Leichhardt, ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown and Bankwest, club headquarters at Ashfield …

Yes, there’s a centre of excellence coming, but the Titans have one, too. Most clubs do, including Penrith. How’s that going for them?

The basic fact is that players see these clubs as non-winners and career crushers. They look at what’s happened to good players who have gone there – in the case of the Gold Coast, Tyrone Peachey, Bryce Cartwright, Ash Taylor – and don’t like what they see.

They look at the list of top players who left the Tigers – James Tedesco, Aaron Woods, Mitch Moses, Josh Addo-Carr – and wonder what drove them out.

How can Meninga and Holbrook at the Titans, and premiership-winning coach Michael Maguire at Wests Tigers, create a winning culture without being able to retain and recruit players who can give them success?

Fans of those clubs will be entitled to scratch their heads if Arrow and Mitchell (and Addo-Carr) drive the Rabbitohs to the top with excess Burgess funds in 2020 and 2021 while they languish at the bottom again.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/how-do-you-rebuild-an-nrl-club-if-you-can-t-sign-and-keep-players-20191227-p53n4z.html

More off season dribbble/clickbait with positive nothing to add to the conversation.

 

[TheDaBoss]

any rumours going around?

I think someone mentioned we were interested in Latrell Mitchell

Heard also that addo car was on the outer

 

[tony soprano]

How do you rebuild an NRL club if you can't sign – and keep – players?

By Neil Breen
December 28, 2019 — 1.00pm

The evidence is in: despite a salary cap and an even distribution of grants, the NRL operates on a haves and have-nots basis.

And, until it is somehow equalised, thoughts of expansion by adding a second Brisbane team are folly. The existing house needs order first.

All the evidence we need was laid bare in the contract wrangling over Jai Arrow and Latrell Mitchell.

Mitchell is unhappy at the Roosters and, in turn, the Roosters are unhappy with him for being unhappy with them. So a parting of the ways is on.

The biggest offer for Mitchell came from Wests Tigers. He basically didn’t even return their phone call.

Now he’s interested in playing for the Rabbitohs on way less than the Tigers offered. Maybe even less than the Roosters’ offer of $800,000 a season.

Arrow is the type of player you could build a club around – so that’s what South Sydney will do with all their spare Sam Burgess cash. He’s signed with them for $800,000 a season from 2021-25 (plus third-party deals). But expect him to be there next year as well. He’s on less than $500,000 at the Titans for 2020 and the Rabbitohs will offer someone up and get him early.

The Titans wanted to build the club around him to them lift off the bottom of the pile.

But as soon as Arrow was able to negotiate with other clubs – a ridiculous 12 months out from the end of his existing deal – he was shopped everywhere and is gone.

The Titans have had issues in the past – most notably when many in the team were more focused on buying cocaine than winning an NRL match – but that is in the distant past.

They have new, passionate owners – Gold Coast locals and top-class business people like Rebecca Frizelle – a top, vastly experienced chairman in Dennis Watt, formerly a long-term News Corp executive who himself was a first-grader at Norths in the Brisbane competition back in the Joe Kilroy days. Watt stamped himself as a top league executive when handed the job of cleaning up News Corp’s mess in the wake of the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal.

None other than Immortal Mal Meninga is the club’s head of football and culture. They've also got a new coach, with no baggage, in Justin Holbrook.

The challenge for clubs such as the Titans and the Tigers, perennial bottom-eight teams, is enticing players to the club who are good enough to drive you into the top eight. Then you have to get them to stick around.

Arrow is an interesting case. A Gold Coast native, he played juniors for Burleigh Bears before being scooped up into the Broncos’ system. Wayne Bennett handed him a first-grade debut in 2016 and, after 25 top-grade matches, he decided to head home to the Gold Coast.

In his two seasons there, the Titans finished 14th and last, and now he’s out of there, enticed by the culture and prospect of long-term success at the Rabbitohs, a club that, ironically, has won one premiership in the past 48 seasons.

A club with as many premierships in that time, Wests Tigers, also made a big play for Arrow and came up with nothing – as they did with Mitchell.

Why do the Tigers struggle to sign these players? It’s a question the club has to answer honestly after looking hard in the mirror.

Is it the lack of a home: training at Concord, playing at Leichhardt, ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown and Bankwest, club headquarters at Ashfield …

Yes, there’s a centre of excellence coming, but the Titans have one, too. Most clubs do, including Penrith. How’s that going for them?

The basic fact is that players see these clubs as non-winners and career crushers. They look at what’s happened to good players who have gone there – in the case of the Gold Coast, Tyrone Peachey, Bryce Cartwright, Ash Taylor – and don’t like what they see.

They look at the list of top players who left the Tigers – James Tedesco, Aaron Woods, Mitch Moses, Josh Addo-Carr – and wonder what drove them out.

How can Meninga and Holbrook at the Titans, and premiership-winning coach Michael Maguire at Wests Tigers, create a winning culture without being able to retain and recruit players who can give them success?

Fans of those clubs will be entitled to scratch their heads if Arrow and Mitchell (and Addo-Carr) drive the Rabbitohs to the top with excess Burgess funds in 2020 and 2021 while they languish at the bottom again.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/how-do-you-rebuild-an-nrl-club-if-you-can-t-sign-and-keep-players-20191227-p53n4z.html


More off season dribbble/clickbait with positive nothing to add to the conversation.

He’s got a point.


But marquee signings are not be all and end all.


Raiders made the GF last year while cowboys, and a host of other teams, who have no issues buying players struggled.

 

[tiger_one]

How do you rebuild an NRL club if you can't sign – and keep – players?

By Neil Breen
December 28, 2019 — 1.00pm

The evidence is in: despite a salary cap and an even distribution of grants, the NRL operates on a haves and have-nots basis.

And, until it is somehow equalised, thoughts of expansion by adding a second Brisbane team are folly. The existing house needs order first.

All the evidence we need was laid bare in the contract wrangling over Jai Arrow and Latrell Mitchell.

Mitchell is unhappy at the Roosters and, in turn, the Roosters are unhappy with him for being unhappy with them. So a parting of the ways is on.

The biggest offer for Mitchell came from Wests Tigers. He basically didn’t even return their phone call.

Now he’s interested in playing for the Rabbitohs on way less than the Tigers offered. Maybe even less than the Roosters’ offer of $800,000 a season.

Arrow is the type of player you could build a club around – so that’s what South Sydney will do with all their spare Sam Burgess cash. He’s signed with them for $800,000 a season from 2021-25 (plus third-party deals). But expect him to be there next year as well. He’s on less than $500,000 at the Titans for 2020 and the Rabbitohs will offer someone up and get him early.

The Titans wanted to build the club around him to them lift off the bottom of the pile.

But as soon as Arrow was able to negotiate with other clubs – a ridiculous 12 months out from the end of his existing deal – he was shopped everywhere and is gone.

The Titans have had issues in the past – most notably when many in the team were more focused on buying cocaine than winning an NRL match – but that is in the distant past.

They have new, passionate owners – Gold Coast locals and top-class business people like Rebecca Frizelle – a top, vastly experienced chairman in Dennis Watt, formerly a long-term News Corp executive who himself was a first-grader at Norths in the Brisbane competition back in the Joe Kilroy days. Watt stamped himself as a top league executive when handed the job of cleaning up News Corp’s mess in the wake of the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal.

None other than Immortal Mal Meninga is the club’s head of football and culture. They've also got a new coach, with no baggage, in Justin Holbrook.

The challenge for clubs such as the Titans and the Tigers, perennial bottom-eight teams, is enticing players to the club who are good enough to drive you into the top eight. Then you have to get them to stick around.

Arrow is an interesting case. A Gold Coast native, he played juniors for Burleigh Bears before being scooped up into the Broncos’ system. Wayne Bennett handed him a first-grade debut in 2016 and, after 25 top-grade matches, he decided to head home to the Gold Coast.

In his two seasons there, the Titans finished 14th and last, and now he’s out of there, enticed by the culture and prospect of long-term success at the Rabbitohs, a club that, ironically, has won one premiership in the past 48 seasons.

A club with as many premierships in that time, Wests Tigers, also made a big play for Arrow and came up with nothing – as they did with Mitchell.

Why do the Tigers struggle to sign these players? It’s a question the club has to answer honestly after looking hard in the mirror.

Is it the lack of a home: training at Concord, playing at Leichhardt, ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown and Bankwest, club headquarters at Ashfield …

Yes, there’s a centre of excellence coming, but the Titans have one, too. Most clubs do, including Penrith. How’s that going for them?

The basic fact is that players see these clubs as non-winners and career crushers. They look at what’s happened to good players who have gone there – in the case of the Gold Coast, Tyrone Peachey, Bryce Cartwright, Ash Taylor – and don’t like what they see.

They look at the list of top players who left the Tigers – James Tedesco, Aaron Woods, Mitch Moses, Josh Addo-Carr – and wonder what drove them out.

How can Meninga and Holbrook at the Titans, and premiership-winning coach Michael Maguire at Wests Tigers, create a winning culture without being able to retain and recruit players who can give them success?

Fans of those clubs will be entitled to scratch their heads if Arrow and Mitchell (and Addo-Carr) drive the Rabbitohs to the top with excess Burgess funds in 2020 and 2021 while they languish at the bottom again.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/how-do-you-rebuild-an-nrl-club-if-you-can-t-sign-and-keep-players-20191227-p53n4z.html


More off season dribbble/clickbait with positive nothing to add to the conversation.

He’s got a point.


But marquee signings are not be all and end all.


Raiders made the GF last year while cowboys, and a host of other teams, who have no issues buying players struggled.

Except champion tony soprana that the article talks up some clubs, puts down only one (guess who!) and ignores the history of all the other clubs playing NRL.
Just another brick in the wall.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Old news but

Jai Arrow: Wests Tigers made late bid for Gold Coast star after Latrell Mitchell rejection, report

After missing out on top target Latrell Mitchell the Wests Tigers made an audacious 11th-hour bid to sign Gold Coast Titans star Jai Arrow.


As first reported by Fairfax Media journalist Andrew Webster, the cashed-up Tigers made the Queensland Maroons lock a formal offer at the last minute.


The Tigers’ shock move delayed the 24-year-old’s decision on his future before he ultimately agreed to a four-year deal to join Wayne Bennett’s Bunnies in 2021.

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Neither the Titans or Rabbitohs have officially confirmed Arrow’s decision, but it is understood negotiations are underway to grant the star forward an immediate release.

MORE: NRL 2020: Predicted lineups for every side next season

Mitchell’s camp is closely monitoring Arrow’s next move, which could decide the unwanted Sydney Roosters star’s own immediate future.



The Rabbitohs are desperate to add Arrow to their 2020 roster as retired captain Sam Burgess’ replacement, while the representative forward is reportedly eager to make an immediate switch.

Gold Coast officials are reportedly shell-shocked after Arrow called their bluff and decided to move to Redfern.

It is understood the Titans’ final offer was $500,000 less than the Rabbitohs’ offer over four years.

If Arrow links with the Rabbitohs next season, the Bunnies would have to move at least one player in order to fit Mitchell under their 2020 salary cap.

Bennett on Thursday declared South Sydney are not in the race to sign Mitchell.

However, the veteran coach has made similar statements in the past about players that later turned out to be false.

Rabbitohs veteran Dane Gagai has been linked with the Tigers, while Alex Johnston has also been shopped to rival clubs.

Mitchell last week insisted he won’t rush his decision after the Roosters withdrew their two-year, $1.6 million contract extension in October.

According to reports the Bunnies are Mitchell’s preferred destination.

The Titans are yet to make Mitchell an official offer but are the only NRL club still officially in the race for his signature.

Wests Tigers withdrew a reported four-year, $3.8 million offer this month.

It was the second time the joint-venture club pulled their offer to the Australia centre.

Meanwhile, the Roosters are desperate for Mitchell to find a new club before he is scheduled to report to pre-season training on January 6.

The premiers have already paid the centre’s salary for November and December and will continue to fork out around $65,000 a month until he finds a new home.

It has been suggested the Rabbitohs are deliberately delaying signing Mitchell in order to fit him under their 2020 salary cap.

 

[balmain boy]

There should be a rule against posting things from sportinglife and other random blogs. There's simply no point

 

[tigerballs]

“It is understood”, “according to reports”, “yet to make an official offer but are the only club still officially in the race”...in other words “I’m making all this up!”

 

[matchball]

Who the hell is Neil Breen?

 

[OldMagpie]

So he is 100% signed with us for 2021? There is no way we can lose him? He sounds like an absolute weapon glad our recruiting team is on the rite track

Nothing is 100% guaranteed in rugby league especially a contract. Parramatta are trying to entice him by getting him into the top 30, then when he plays to his potential they will just offer him more than what we offered him and try and convince him to stay. All He has to say, is that he made a rash decision and now wants to stay at Parramatta. Obviously Parramatta want to work him over in the next 12 months.

 

[Telltails]

Its only in very recent times this club has had any money to offer quality players. There really is no history of our club missing out on marquee players because we have never been in the market for them.

 

[the_third]

Who the hell is Neil Breen?

Used to be the editor of the DT....

 

[2005magic]

Its only in very recent times this club has had any money to offer quality players. There really is no history of our club missing out on marquee players because we have never been in the market for them.

As a counter point to the thinking that we miss out on marque buys of players- that last time we had $$$ to spend Cleary had little difficulty getting the players he wanted- Packer, Matulino & Reynolds. I think I'm right saying that McQueen was singed by Taylor but also Mbye and Matterson were later signings by Cleary. So, you can rightly argue the merits and value of these players and their signing value, but they did put pen to paper and came to WT.

 

[TieDye]

Its only in very recent times this club has had any money to offer quality players. There really is no history of our club missing out on marquee players because we have never been in the market for them.

As a counter point to the thinking that we miss out on marque buys of players- that last time we had $$$ to spend Cleary had little difficulty getting the players he wanted- Packer, Matulino & Reynolds. I think I'm right saying that McQueen was singed by Taylor but also Mbye and Matterson were later signings by Cleary. So, you can rightly argue the merits and value of these players and their signing value, but they did put pen to paper and came to WT.

Agree Magic, although only 3 maybe 4 were ever touted as Marquee - yet how well did they go for us?

 

[2005magic]

Its only in very recent times this club has had any money to offer quality players. There really is no history of our club missing out on marquee players because we have never been in the market for them.

As a counter point to the thinking that we miss out on marque buys of players- that last time we had $$$ to spend Cleary had little difficulty getting the players he wanted- Packer, Matulino & Reynolds. I think I'm right saying that McQueen was singed by Taylor but also Mbye and Matterson were later signings by Cleary. So, you can rightly argue the merits and value of these players and their signing value, but they did put pen to paper and came to WT.

Agree Magic, although only 3 maybe 4 were ever touted as Marquee - yet how well did they go for us?

I agree value for money and length of contract has been almost negligible. It resulted from panic buying without sufficient checks and thought. There was no point in getting Reynolds if Benji was coming back (even if fit and Reynolds certainly was not). Packer as way over priced and I believe from past chat here he refused a medical check and Matulino was almost literally on his last legs. Panic buys to get names to replace names leaving.

Maguire will not make the same errors Cleary and Egan did and I'm sure Pascoe will ensure due diligence before any signatures.

We have to get players with skills where we need them to play. It will happen. One day.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Its only in very recent times this club has had any money to offer quality players. There really is no history of our club missing out on marquee players because we have never been in the market for them.

As a counter point to the thinking that we miss out on marque buys of players- that last time we had $$$ to spend Cleary had little difficulty getting the players he wanted- Packer, Matulino & Reynolds. I think I'm right saying that McQueen was singed by Taylor but also Mbye and Matterson were later signings by Cleary. So, you can rightly argue the merits and value of these players and their signing value, but they did put pen to paper and came to WT.

Agree Magic, although only 3 maybe 4 were ever touted as Marquee - yet how well did they go for us?

I agree value for money and length of contract has been almost negligible. It resulted from panic buying without sufficient checks and thought. There was no point in getting Reynolds if Benji was coming back (even if fit and Reynolds certainly was not). Packer as way over priced and I believe from past chat here he refused a medical check and Matulino was almost literally on his last legs. Panic buys to get names to replace names leaving.

Maguire will not make the same errors Cleary and Egan did and I'm sure Pascoe will ensure due diligence before any signatures.

We have to get players with skills where we need them to play. It will happen. One day.

And we thought we finally had a coach that could attract top players. Instead he did a number on us. Thanks Iv.

 

[happy_tiger]

Who the hell is Neil Breen?

The name does ring a bell

 

[Spud_Murphy]

How do you rebuild an NRL club if you can't sign – and keep – players?

By Neil Breen
December 28, 2019 — 1.00pm

The evidence is in: despite a salary cap and an even distribution of grants, the NRL operates on a haves and have-nots basis.

And, until it is somehow equalised, thoughts of expansion by adding a second Brisbane team are folly. The existing house needs order first.

All the evidence we need was laid bare in the contract wrangling over Jai Arrow and Latrell Mitchell.

Mitchell is unhappy at the Roosters and, in turn, the Roosters are unhappy with him for being unhappy with them. So a parting of the ways is on.

The biggest offer for Mitchell came from Wests Tigers. He basically didn’t even return their phone call.

Now he’s interested in playing for the Rabbitohs on way less than the Tigers offered. Maybe even less than the Roosters’ offer of $800,000 a season.

Arrow is the type of player you could build a club around – so that’s what South Sydney will do with all their spare Sam Burgess cash. He’s signed with them for $800,000 a season from 2021-25 (plus third-party deals). But expect him to be there next year as well. He’s on less than $500,000 at the Titans for 2020 and the Rabbitohs will offer someone up and get him early.

The Titans wanted to build the club around him to them lift off the bottom of the pile.

But as soon as Arrow was able to negotiate with other clubs – a ridiculous 12 months out from the end of his existing deal – he was shopped everywhere and is gone.

The Titans have had issues in the past – most notably when many in the team were more focused on buying cocaine than winning an NRL match – but that is in the distant past.

They have new, passionate owners – Gold Coast locals and top-class business people like Rebecca Frizelle – a top, vastly experienced chairman in Dennis Watt, formerly a long-term News Corp executive who himself was a first-grader at Norths in the Brisbane competition back in the Joe Kilroy days. Watt stamped himself as a top league executive when handed the job of cleaning up News Corp’s mess in the wake of the Melbourne Storm salary cap scandal.

None other than Immortal Mal Meninga is the club’s head of football and culture. They've also got a new coach, with no baggage, in Justin Holbrook.

The challenge for clubs such as the Titans and the Tigers, perennial bottom-eight teams, is enticing players to the club who are good enough to drive you into the top eight. Then you have to get them to stick around.

Arrow is an interesting case. A Gold Coast native, he played juniors for Burleigh Bears before being scooped up into the Broncos’ system. Wayne Bennett handed him a first-grade debut in 2016 and, after 25 top-grade matches, he decided to head home to the Gold Coast.

In his two seasons there, the Titans finished 14th and last, and now he’s out of there, enticed by the culture and prospect of long-term success at the Rabbitohs, a club that, ironically, has won one premiership in the past 48 seasons.

A club with as many premierships in that time, Wests Tigers, also made a big play for Arrow and came up with nothing – as they did with Mitchell.

Why do the Tigers struggle to sign these players? It’s a question the club has to answer honestly after looking hard in the mirror.

Is it the lack of a home: training at Concord, playing at Leichhardt, ANZ Stadium, Campbelltown and Bankwest, club headquarters at Ashfield …

Yes, there’s a centre of excellence coming, but the Titans have one, too. Most clubs do, including Penrith. How’s that going for them?

The basic fact is that players see these clubs as non-winners and career crushers. They look at what’s happened to good players who have gone there – in the case of the Gold Coast, Tyrone Peachey, Bryce Cartwright, Ash Taylor – and don’t like what they see.

They look at the list of top players who left the Tigers – James Tedesco, Aaron Woods, Mitch Moses, Josh Addo-Carr – and wonder what drove them out.

How can Meninga and Holbrook at the Titans, and premiership-winning coach Michael Maguire at Wests Tigers, create a winning culture without being able to retain and recruit players who can give them success?

Fans of those clubs will be entitled to scratch their heads if Arrow and Mitchell (and Addo-Carr) drive the Rabbitohs to the top with excess Burgess funds in 2020 and 2021 while they languish at the bottom again.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/how-do-you-rebuild-an-nrl-club-if-you-can-t-sign-and-keep-players-20191227-p53n4z.html


More off season dribbble/clickbait with positive nothing to add to the conversation.

He’s got a point.


But marquee signings are not be all and end all.


Raiders made the GF last year while cowboys, and a host of other teams, who have no issues buying players struggled.


Except champion tony soprana that the article talks up some clubs, **puts down only one (guess who!)** and ignores the history of all the other clubs playing NRL.
Just another brick in the wall.

You miss the part about the Titans? Besides it’s hardly a put down, more highlighting the inequality between clubs in the NRL as it stands at present and how head office need to address this if they ever have a hope of expanding the game.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Who the hell is Neil Breen?

The name does ring a bell

There’s a Neil Breen whose a movie director, who makes B grade movies. Not quite as amazing as Tommy Wisaeu, but cool nevertheless.

 

[happy_tiger]

Who the hell is Neil Breen?

The name does ring a bell

There’s a Neil Breen whose a movie director, who makes B grade movies. Not quite as amazing as Tommy Wisaeu, but cool nevertheless.

Or the Neil Breen who works for the SMH .. thought he was an AFL reporter