Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[The_Patriot]

Signing young Jaycob Anjoul is just another sign maguire is fixing what has been broken.

Most of us arent used to having multiple options coming through. Its how a club is meant to be run however.

You dont go out and sign Matt Ballin types and ignore the juniors. Coaches should always be planning years in advance and making sure the club is good hands.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Signing young Jaycob Anjoul is just another sign maguire is fixing what has been broken.

Most of us arent used to having multiple options coming through. Its how a club is meant to be run however.

You dont go out and sign Matt Ballin types and ignore the juniors. Coaches should always be planning years in advance and making sure the club is good hands.

Unless you're planning on buggering off.

 

[JC99]

Signing young Jaycob Anjoul is just another sign maguire is fixing what has been broken.

Most of us arent used to having multiple options coming through. Its how a club is meant to be run however.

You dont go out and sign Matt Ballin types and ignore the juniors. Coaches should always be planning years in advance and making sure the club is good hands.

Spot on. The best thing about Madge is that he doesn’t just look at the season ahead (like Cleary and Taylor) but he also looks towards the future. He’s making sure we have plenty of options for the future and aren’t stuck having to sign other average players.

 

[Needaname]

@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post

Shines a light on the potential for problems with these development contracts. WT would have to add Heath Gibbs to the list if he had not left, to now have three of them that probably won't play in the top grade.

This is the problem with us and the difference with other clubs.
You’ve got to learn when to hold them and when to fold them.

A team like the roosters would be happy to have a Sam McIntre or Dylan Smith on their rooster. They would be position 29-30 and would be light years away from playing first grade. But off a dev contract and into a min wage first grade contract is the perfect scenario for them.

For us however we are talking about moving on-30 To sign a Walmsy or Ryan James.

The successful clubs only keep a top notch 25. If not less at times maybe even 23.

If there is a player that they want to improve they only do it from the top down. They replace within their 23.

Crighton May be the exception as he came into replace Matterson but think what happened with Pearce to Cronk. And Gordon to Teddy.

If it was us in the above situation we’d be trying to play Pearce at 5/8, Cronk at Halfback, Gordon at Wing and Teddy at Fullback with a backrow of Cordner, Crighton and Matterson and only have spare change available to fill out the 30.

The sharks Won the premiership doing the same thing in 2016. Upgrades of like for like.

In the case above if Ryan James or Walmsly is deemed a requirement it’s a forward from our top 20 that goes and that’s just the way it has to be.

For years we’ve had the deepest squad in the comp having not much of a difference in cost and quality between position 1 and position 30. It’s for that reason that when anyone try’s to put our 17 together there are no obvious places filled.

Doesn’t exactly make the experts have much faith in us.

 

[supercoach]

No More Highly Paid Forwards at the end of their careers and with history of major Injuries.

Certainly not highly paid, bargain basement. If he had nowhere to go and we got him super cheap***, then why not?*** Signing Matt Ballin didn't do any damage, apart from being a joke, because he was on stuff-all contract.

Because we only have 30 cap slots. Everyone keeps suggesting we keep buying forwards. There is only so many spots available

The current Top 29 (1 spot spare) includes Sam McIntyre and Dylan Smith, and personally I don't think either of them will play first grade unless some massive injury crisis. I would have no issue if Ryan James was in that category, as a potential low-cost option to round out the roster.

If we signed better forwards than Ryan James, so be it.

i see Mclntyre playing first grade this season at some point.......as for smith.he was a big letdown for me, he has the ability and talent to be great...but i dont think he is needed here anymore

The bottom line you have to have a few McIntyre type players on your books in order to be able to get the cap to balance. I actually think he can do a job for us if required, but he is down the pecking order

 

[pawsandclaws1]

McIntyre is one of those players who not many think much about but all of a sudden he gets his opportunity and keeps delivering. I believe he will be a welcome surprise.!

 

[JD Tiger]

@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post

Shines a light on the potential for problems with these development contracts. WT would have to add Heath Gibbs to the list if he had not left, to now have three of them that probably won't play in the top grade.

This is the problem with us and the difference with other clubs.
You’ve got to learn when to hold them and when to fold them.

A team like the roosters would be happy to have a Sam McIntre or Dylan Smith on their rooster. They would be position 29-30 and would be light years away from playing first grade. But off a dev contract and into a min wage first grade contract is the perfect scenario for them.

For us however we are talking about moving on-30 To sign a Walmsy or Ryan James.

The successful clubs only keep a top notch 25. If not less at times maybe even 23.

If there is a player that they want to improve they only do it from the top down. They replace within their 23.

Crighton May be the exception as he came into replace Matterson but think what happened with Pearce to Cronk. And Gordon to Teddy.

If it was us in the above situation we’d be trying to play Pearce at 5/8, Cronk at Halfback, Gordon at Wing and Teddy at Fullback with a backrow of Cordner, Crighton and Matterson and only have spare change available to fill out the 30.

The sharks Won the premiership doing the same thing in 2016. Upgrades of like for like.

In the case above if Ryan James or Walmsly is deemed a requirement it’s a forward from our top 20 that goes and that’s just the way it has to be.

For years we’ve had the deepest squad in the comp having not much of a difference in cost and quality between position 1 and position 30. It’s for that reason that when anyone try’s to put our 17 together there are no obvious places filled.

Doesn’t exactly make the experts have much faith in us.

Really good post. Hopefully Madge is just busy atm trying to get the ship back on course, and we can then apply that strategy in a year or so.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post

Shines a light on the potential for problems with these development contracts. WT would have to add Heath Gibbs to the list if he had not left, to now have three of them that probably won't play in the top grade.

This is the problem with us and the difference with other clubs.
You’ve got to learn when to hold them and when to fold them.

A team like the roosters would be happy to have a Sam McIntre or Dylan Smith on their rooster. They would be position 29-30 and would be light years away from playing first grade. But off a dev contract and into a min wage first grade contract is the perfect scenario for them.

For us however we are talking about moving on-30 To sign a Walmsy or Ryan James.

The successful clubs only keep a top notch 25. If not less at times maybe even 23.

If there is a player that they want to improve they only do it from the top down. They replace within their 23.

Crighton May be the exception as he came into replace Matterson but think what happened with Pearce to Cronk. And Gordon to Teddy.

If it was us in the above situation we’d be trying to play Pearce at 5/8, Cronk at Halfback, Gordon at Wing and Teddy at Fullback with a backrow of Cordner, Crighton and Matterson and only have spare change available to fill out the 30.

The sharks Won the premiership doing the same thing in 2016. Upgrades of like for like.

In the case above if Ryan James or Walmsly is deemed a requirement it’s a forward from our top 20 that goes and that’s just the way it has to be.

For years we’ve had the deepest squad in the comp having not much of a difference in cost and quality between position 1 and position 30. It’s for that reason that when anyone try’s to put our 17 together there are no obvious places filled.

Doesn’t exactly make the experts have much faith in us.

Who’s talking about it ? People on the forum ? Is the club ? Pretty sure they’re looking to medically retire Packer , and back fill with a gun young forward. We really only need depth now.

 

[Needaname]

Who’s talking about it ? People on the forum ? Is the club ? Pretty sure they’re looking to medically retire Packer , and back fill with a gun young forward. We really only need depth now.

Yeah you said it, the forum. I’m sure the club has the right idea in mind and I’m not sure Walmsy or James are even on the radar. Madge has turned that around. I have no problems with the current run of signings. This was a comment based on how roster management / building is viewed. I’m with Paws I think McIntyre can do the job and next year his probably taking McQueens spot on the roster whilst Sefarth probably takes Eisenhuths. That then reduces the length of spread our cap needs to have between 1-30.
Musgrove replacing Matolinos roster spot is a good example of that. Our only real issue now is the fact we almost have a starting side of overpriced utilities, but slowly but surely that’s being rectified.

 

[jrtiger]

@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post

Shines a light on the potential for problems with these development contracts. WT would have to add Heath Gibbs to the list if he had not left, to now have three of them that probably won't play in the top grade.

This is the problem with us and the difference with other clubs.
You’ve got to learn when to hold them and when to fold them.

A team like the roosters would be happy to have a Sam McIntre or Dylan Smith on their rooster. They would be position 29-30 and would be light years away from playing first grade. But off a dev contract and into a min wage first grade contract is the perfect scenario for them.

For us however we are talking about moving on-30 To sign a Walmsy or Ryan James.

The successful clubs only keep a top notch 25. If not less at times maybe even 23.

If there is a player that they want to improve they only do it from the top down. They replace within their 23.

Crighton May be the exception as he came into replace Matterson but think what happened with Pearce to Cronk. And Gordon to Teddy.

If it was us in the above situation we’d be trying to play Pearce at 5/8, Cronk at Halfback, Gordon at Wing and Teddy at Fullback with a backrow of Cordner, Crighton and Matterson and only have spare change available to fill out the 30.

The sharks Won the premiership doing the same thing in 2016. Upgrades of like for like.

In the case above if Ryan James or Walmsly is deemed a requirement it’s a forward from our top 20 that goes and that’s just the way it has to be.

For years we’ve had the deepest squad in the comp having not much of a difference in cost and quality between position 1 and position 30. It’s for that reason that when anyone try’s to put our 17 together there are no obvious places filled.

Doesn’t exactly make the experts have much faith in us.

Who’s talking about it ? People on the forum ? Is the club ? Pretty sure they’re looking to medically retire Packer , and back fill with a gun young forward. We really only need depth now.

while I think most agree that this is one of the stronger packs WT have seen in some time, we are lacking a leader. whether that's Packer, Walmsley or James who knows, but if we can find a Waraea-Hargreaves type to mentor the likes of Mikaele, Twal, Utoikamanu, Musgrove & Aloiai our premiership window might open up a couple years earlier than most expect.

 

[JC99]

heard we've had a chat with Ethan Parry's management, dunno if it's gone any further than that

Talented young fella. Good build too nice tall strong winger

 

[Guest]

Anyone who thinks McIntyre is a first grade footballer needs to watch last year's Magpies games. He was beyond bad and lucky to hold his place in the reserve grade team.

 

[tigertye]

heard we've had a chat with Ethan Parry's management, dunno if it's gone any further than that

Talented young fella. Good build too nice tall strong winger

He’s a loose unit in person too and an absolute crack up.

 

[Russell]

with all these dummy halfs it looks like Liddle might be on borrowed time ?

Then more fool us.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

heard we've had a chat with Ethan Parry's management, dunno if it's gone any further than that

Talented young fella. Good build too nice tall strong winger

His younger brother is a good player as well.

 

[Russell]

We missed out on murdoch masila, would of loved him back in the tigers jersey, hes a good forward and heavily underated in my opinion. I think we should search or a forward in the super league someone like walmsley would be perfect.

Maybe someone not on a pension though.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Surely between Simpkin, Anjoul, Liddle and Grant (maybe), one of these can develop into an NRL Quality Hooker fro 2021 onwards.

Looks like we are going back to the JT era where we had more Hookers than Kings Cross.

 

[851]

Surely between Simpkin, Anjoul, Liddle and Grant (maybe), one of these can develop into an NRL Quality Hooker fro 2021 onwards.


Looks like we are going back to the JT era where we had more Hookers than Kings Cross.

And he still moved half the team around to play his mate Rankin at hooker during the game

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Interesting Ewan Aitkin to tiges and mose suli to st george think this is about right but time will tell

 

[JC99]

Interesting Ewan Aitkin to tiges and mose suli to st george think this is about right but time will tell

Don’t rate Aitken. Runs the ball well but can’t throw a pass and struggled in defence. The fact he isn’t playing for dragons shows how poor he’s been