Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.
 
@Chicken_Faced_Killa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245708) said:
@Properossi said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245707) said:
@Sausagesorcerer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245705) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.


Clean swap
I’d be for it.At his best Bird is a gamebreaker

It’s been a really long time between drinks!

Bird has been out of the game for a long time with injuries however if it was a straight swap with both teams covering the same salary they are now I think this is worth a shot.

Bird has one knee
 
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

Only 2 years left for Mbye but I have a feeling he won't see them out in full at WT.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?
 
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

Seibold was excited at the thought of Bird playing in the 1 jersey ....how do you keep him fit though ..make sacrifices to the footy Gods
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245777) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

Seibold was excited at the thought of Bird playing in the 1 jersey ....how do you keep him fit though ..make sacrifices to the footy Gods

I don't think he's got the pace to be a genuine 1. And coming from Seibold, that recommendation isn't saying much!
 
Telegraph reporting that we are interested in Tristan Sailor and that we are in negotiations with Seyfarth.

Classic telegraph compared possibly losing Seyfarth to losing Tedesco, JAC and Paps 😂 I don’t think he’ll ever get that good lol
 
rather keep Mmbye over bird too injury prone. Still wish we would make a play for one of the two best hookers in Grant or Brandon Smith still think they both will not want to stay at storm and we move Liddle on next year.
 
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245780) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245777) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

Seibold was excited at the thought of Bird playing in the 1 jersey ....how do you keep him fit though ..make sacrifices to the footy Gods

I don't think he's got the pace to be a genuine 1. And coming from Seibold, that recommendation isn't saying much!

From memory he MOTM in the trial he played in at 1
 
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245790) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.

Can't just look at cost.
Mbye gives you 350-500 k in value on the field
Bird gives you a donut
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245792) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245790) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.

Can't just look at cost.
Mbye gives you 350-500 k in value on the field
Bird gives you a donut

Understand that but would expect the club to do a medical check beforehand and get a understanding of how he is going. By the time the season starts it will be over 12 months sense the last injury..
Don't get me wrong if they had the same amount of time left on deals I would not even consider it but just thinking about 2022 and 850k would go a long way in picking up a top line player. I like Mbye and would keep him if he was on 400-500k but that won't happen
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245793) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245792) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245790) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.

Can't just look at cost.
Mbye gives you 350-500 k in value on the field
Bird gives you a donut

Understand that but would expect the club to do a medical check beforehand and get a understanding of how he is going. By the time the season starts it will be over 12 months sense the last injury..
Don't get me wrong if they had the same amount of time left on deals I would not even consider it but just thinking about 2022 and 850k would go a long way in picking up a top line player. I like Mbye and would keep him if he was on 400-500k but that won't happen

Really shows how messed up our cap is. If I was a rival I wouldn't take Reynolds or Packer even if WT covered 80% of their value. Mbye might be the only one we can shift and I like him too.
 
@Sart0ri said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245742) said:
@PabloX said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245732) said:
I think I read that as well. I’d probably still do the swap… with Bird only contracted for next year, it’s a win for sure.

It would depend who else we sign, right now Mbye is our best fullback and is a first grade standard player in several positions.

$1M for a centre with ongoing injury issues with arthritis and a chest bone problem coming off an ACL sounds desperate to get rid of Mbye.

Mbye was good for 14/15 games he played last year. He always deserved a spot in the team and we might have done better with Doueihi at 5/8 and Mbye at fullback. Madge gave Doueihi a good run to develop and take ownership of fullback and we were also short on centres and had too many (almost first grade) 5/8s.

I agree, there is no point or value in moving Mbye on. We would have to pay half the freight and you would never get as versatile a player for the change. Grin and bear it, and play him where we need him. He is a perfect no 14.
 
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245794) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245793) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245792) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245790) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.

Can't just look at cost.
Mbye gives you 350-500 k in value on the field
Bird gives you a donut

Understand that but would expect the club to do a medical check beforehand and get a understanding of how he is going. By the time the season starts it will be over 12 months sense the last injury..
Don't get me wrong if they had the same amount of time left on deals I would not even consider it but just thinking about 2022 and 850k would go a long way in picking up a top line player. I like Mbye and would keep him if he was on 400-500k but that won't happen

Really shows how messed up our cap is. If I was a rival I wouldn't take Reynolds or Packer even if WT covered 80% of their value. Mbye might be the only one we can shift and I like him too.

Agree, Unfortunately that's where we are but I believe Madge is turning this around very nicely and 2022 will be back to normal.
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245797) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245794) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245793) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245792) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245790) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245762) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245757) said:
@willow said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245751) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.

Bird is way past his use by date. Bloke has arthritis in both knees and a double ACL. No way in the world would I take him. Just a liability you can't afford.

I would solely because he only has next year left on contract and Mbye has a few years left. Means we could shed an extra year off our salary cap.
providing we can get a fullback this off season.

The condition with Bird is stumping up most of his 1 million salary next season. Now tell me how that is good value?

I am more thinking about 2022 and creating Mbye salary towards another top line player.
We are up for around 850k for Mybe this coming year anyway so if we have to pay another 150k in 2021 for Bird, that we create 850k free in 2022 s we wouldn't have Mbye here. That is a win win for me as there is not much talent out there this year but will be in 2022.

Can't just look at cost.
Mbye gives you 350-500 k in value on the field
Bird gives you a donut

Understand that but would expect the club to do a medical check beforehand and get a understanding of how he is going. By the time the season starts it will be over 12 months sense the last injury..
Don't get me wrong if they had the same amount of time left on deals I would not even consider it but just thinking about 2022 and 850k would go a long way in picking up a top line player. I like Mbye and would keep him if he was on 400-500k but that won't happen

Really shows how messed up our cap is. If I was a rival I wouldn't take Reynolds or Packer even if WT covered 80% of their value. Mbye might be the only one we can shift and I like him too.

Agree, Unfortunately that's where we are but I believe Madge is turning this around very nicely and 2022 will be back to normal.

Fingers and toes crossed here mate
 
@hodgo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245655) said:
I am genuinely confused why people would want to say no to him. Suualli literally ticks a lot of madge and forum boxes. He knows madge, he is big, he is fast, he is a devastating ball runner. He is wanted by anyone with money, he is a multi-sport athlete (not enough emphasis on this these days).
Those saying he is hard work, you literally don t know what went on behind close doors. Secondly if he wants those outs in his contract its because he actually thinks he is that good to me another plus (no I wouldn't give them) . Also if you can set yourself up for life at 17 you do it no question.

OK with it if we aren't going to be silly about it. If we want to throw cash after talent I would prefer it be someone at the top of their game rather than potential.
 
@Sausagesorcerer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245727) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245726) said:
@Sausagesorcerer said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245705) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245703) said:
Could we take a risk on Bird and Mbye swap. I remember Scotty Prince came
To WT after some serious injuries and worked out well.


Clean swap
I’d be for it.At his best Bird is a gamebreaker

I am sure i read somewhere that Birds injury problems stem from a rare form of arthritis,if that is the case he wont be coming good as it was supposed to be very difficult to treat


Damn that’s horrible if true

I said this a while back on the forum and someone replied and didn’t believe me
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1245783) said:
Telegraph reporting that we are interested in Tristan Sailor and that we are in negotiations with Seyfarth.

Classic telegraph compared possibly losing Seyfarth to losing Tedesco, JAC and Paps 😂 I don’t think he’ll ever get that good lol

What a joke no one else wants him.
 
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