Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Curly_Tiger]

Question for the forum relating to us perhaps being a touch light on back rowers

We have as middle forwards the following 7 players in our squad:
Tamou, Musgrove, Ofahengaue, Twal, Mikaele, Uto, Packer

Do any of these have any backrower flexibility?
Could any?

Aloiai did but just hoping there may be one amongst these lot

Out of that bunch .. both Twal and Ofahengaue have played at number 13, not sure if you'd call that .. "backrower flexibility".

From memory, Ofahengaue played 13 for the Donkeys a few times and showed an ability to adapt to a more mobile player / position than i thought he would have.

I was counting them as middle forwards so more a question if any of them could play 2nd row

 

[JC99]

Joe O can play second row and has in the past, but not often

 

[crazycat]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.

Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?

 

[Devon Head]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.

Harry Grant is contracted till end of 2023 so unless Cam Smith plays on next year and Harry decides to leave then we're going to be waiting a long time for his availability.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Harry Grant is contracted till end of 2023 so unless Cam Smith plays on next year and Harry decides to leave then we’re going to be waiting a long time for his availability.

He could always text the Storm CEO and tell him that he will never wear the Storm jersey again. That might work.

 

[bathursttiger1]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?

Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

 

[Russell]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

I'm not convinced about Simpkin and his win rate, which is zero.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Why is Garner still there

Huh?

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

I don't understand this hate against Liddle, did he stole someone's cricket bat? :blush:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Where we are at right now, I would much rather two second rowers than another hooker.

And I rate Dirty Harry very highly.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Liddle is promising but I can't say I've seen him grab a game by the scruff of the neck
I'd take Harry every time and hope there is a reasonable market for Jacob and that we retain Simpkin as a backup for now but realistically eventually you wouldn't want to be behind Harry

Anyway it's all maybe, depends on Cam's next move and Harry's reaction to it if it's another seasonn for Cam at the Storm

 

[sleeve]

I would rather wait and see what young players stand out during the year.We have a couple of big fast backs and a clever 7or 9 that may need upgrading.I would not jump to soon.

 

[avocadoontoast]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

I'm not convinced about Simpkin and his win rate, which is zero.

Are you more excited by Jacob Liddle's, which is 36%?

 

[Russell]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

I'm not convinced about Simpkin and his win rate, which is zero.

Are you more excited by Jacob Liddle's, which is 36%?

I am much more excited over jake's 36% than Simpkin and his 0% - yes.

Obviously people think Liddle should have won more games on his own to increase his percentage. It is a team sport, other players need to put in as well and if they did, maybe that also may lift Jake's percentage.

 

[JC99]

Don’t think it’s worth comparing any hooker to Harry. He will be the best in the game for a while, at least top 3.

Liddle is a good player and will be fine as long as he stays injury free.

 

[avocadoontoast]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

I'm not convinced about Simpkin and his win rate, which is zero.

Are you more excited by Jacob Liddle's, which is 36%?

I am much more excited over jake's 36% than Simpkin and his 0% - yes.

Obviously people think Liddle should have won more games on his own to increase his percentage. It is a team sport, other players need to put in as well and if they did, maybe that also may lift Jake's percentage.

So you're not convinced about Simpkin because his win rate is zero, but you also don't care about Liddle's win rate being so poor because it's a team sport?

 

[Russell]

For me the priorities would be Harry Grant, Angus Crichton, JAC in that order

2021 would be a bonus for any of these but not impossible, these things move in mysterious ways and I feel we are still holding a fair chunk of spare cap, up to $900k (assumes Seyfarth signed) and we have some flexibility on Garner and Liddle who are likely on around $300k each

Dare to dream but that would make one a definite possibility for 2021 if they became available but harder to see how you do two of them
Two base replacements would leave $1.25-1.3m for AC & say HG, might not be impossible on a multi year deal

The problem if we sign Harry Grant, Why would we sign both Liddle and Simpkin?
I like Harry Grant, he would be an awesome signing. But now that he is SOO material he will probably be in the high 700-800 range at least. You punt Liddle who probably has some Club Loyalty we then are left with 500k for Grant.... Not happening with Either AC or JAC.

There is no way we can sign Angus Crichton and HG. Yet I think about it and Angus Crichton is exactly the kind of player I would want signed. Gutsy mad forward. The way I see it there will always be wingers, centers and halves coming through that you can punt on. You get a good forward base going you start winning on momentum.


Well we have signed a few forwards for 2021 so lets see how they gel as a unit and hopefully compete well.
In relation to Grant agree now an Origin player and will demand Top $ next contract and i thought Simpkins was going to be the next big thing coming out of QLD?


Give Simpkins a few games and see if he is the next big thing, from all reports Broncos were filthy about losing him.

Well i hope he puts lots of pressure on Liddle as not really convinced about him with his win rate.
Although he might finally get a few games this season.

I'm not convinced about Simpkin and his win rate, which is zero.

Are you more excited by Jacob Liddle's, which is 36%?

I am much more excited over jake's 36% than Simpkin and his 0% - yes.

Obviously people think Liddle should have won more games on his own to increase his percentage. It is a team sport, other players need to put in as well and if they did, maybe that also may lift Jake's percentage.

So you're not convinced about Simpkin because his win rate is zero, but you also don't care about Liddle's win rate being so poor because it's a team sport?

No Avo, I am just tired of people thinking this kid Simpkin is better than Liddle, the answer to all our problems, the next big thing, going to play SOO etc. etc. when he has not even laced up a boot in the NRL.

Now he may well be all those things but at the moment all he has is potential, which usually is a dirty word on this Forum - most people have skipped the potential part and are just saying he is it.

Well, 36% is not great for Jake, but he did not play all those teams by himself. Until Simpkin plays as many games, that is 43 to this point I will not be convinced that he is any better than Liddle who I rate as better than a good player.

Don't think that is an unreasonable thing to expect.

 

[sleeve]

We are lucky to have Liddle a quality hooker and Simkins who some rate will be better then Harry.I can;t see the problem.