Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[mike]

Interesting that Daine Laurie is not on the Panthers player profiles.

Since when?

Is it because he is a development player?

Don’t know the reason why. I just checked the player profiles and he’s not there.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Interesting that Daine Laurie is not on the Panthers player profiles.

Since when?

Is it because he is a development player?

Don’t know the reason why. I just checked the player profiles and he’s not there.

None of the dev players are. I wouldn’t take it as a sign that he’s leaving early.

 

[JC99]

I'm curious myself, if Brandon Smith is such a good hooker, why Storm are allowing him to field offers and instead keep Harry Grant.

Does this mean Storm consider Harry a better hooker than Cheese?

I reckon Cheese is one of the better non-prop locks going around, him and Victor Radley. No idea why the bloke is so dead-set on playing FT hooker.

Harry is the better hooker. That doesn’t mean Cheese isn’t. Harry is a very special talent.

 

[TYGA]

I'm curious myself, if Brandon Smith is such a good hooker, why Storm are allowing him to field offers and instead keep Harry Grant.

Does this mean Storm consider Harry a better hooker than Cheese?

I reckon Cheese is one of the better non-prop locks going around, him and Victor Radley. No idea why the bloke is so dead-set on playing FT hooker.

He’s a top 5 hooker in the NRL all signs point to Harry Grant being the best over the next 10 years.
Issue is price vs the potential of Simpkin. If you have a chance due to Madge’s relationship as NZ coach you have to take it. Simple as that. He’s wasted at lock albeit he’s damaging.

 

[Guest]

I wonder if people will feel the same way about Smith in 12 months time once they've seen Simpkin play?

 

[tony soprano]

I wonder if people will feel the same way about Smith in 12 months time once they've seen Simpkin play?

That’s why I feel it’s strange the club are talking about smith now it’s not backing their current 9’s

 

[hsvjones]

Did I read somewhere about a Mystery Prop and next week ?

 

[yeahcaz]

I wonder if people will feel the same way about Smith in 12 months time once they've seen Simpkin play?

Don’t take this rudely, but what have you seen that we might not have ? Been trying to find further footage of him to no avail

 

[Guest]

I wonder if people will feel the same way about Smith in 12 months time once they've seen Simpkin play?

Don’t take this rudely, but what have you seen that we might not have ? Been trying to find further footage of him to no avail

A future star.

 

[compensate]

Did I read somewhere about a Mystery Prop and next week ?

Where did you read this?

 

[Balmainian]

Talk of Billy walters Going to Brisbane.
I’d be happy with this.
He’s not a bad little player but I’m not sure he really has a chance with us.
Also frees up a spot in the 30.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Talk of Billy walters Going to Brisbane.
I’d be happy with this.
He’s not a bad little player but I’m not sure he really has a chance with us.
Also frees up a spot in the 30.

Can't imagine nepotism carrying much weight and especially so when he is coming off an ACL needing many more months of rehabilitation before he gets on the paddock. 2022 maybe, but he is free to go anywhere then anyway.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Does anyone know how hard we are chasing smith? Or is it just another player who has put himself on the market and we are just saying we are interested and not actually going hard for him?

I think the question was posed to Madge , and he played a straight bat “he’s a relented footballer , every team should look at talented footballers . I coached him at NZ and he’s a great bloke “
What was he going to say “nah he’s a crap dummy half, he can’t pass the ball and in 4 years when concussions ends his career we will will have an albatross around our neck again . Good lock,great bloke , and an absolute menace ,but see previous comment “

The issue is coin. And value .
Is he good value at “500k . Yea probably”.
Is he good value at 300k ? “300k? Where do we sign”.
Is he good value at 800k ? “Smithy your a good bloke mate . Good footballer. Geez we like ya . We are just going to crunch the numbers and get back to you “
**tumbleweeds**
*** more tumbleweeds***
SMITH SIGNS WITH BULLDOGS.
“Damn we missed him”

Yeh I get what ur saying. So that’s all the talks there’s been about it though is what I mean? 800k is pretty crazy, not saying he definitely won’t be worth that in the years to come but atm seems crazy!! Is that what he’s asking or just a number u have thrown in? I’d love to have him at the tigers but as a lock. We would always have a backup hooker on the field if injury was to strike again.

Nah just chucking it around to emphasise my point . There’s like invisible lines where a player goes from good to over rated to a big turd on your salary cap.
Moses Mbye , is case in point of this . Played origin last year , was going to play this year , and yet we all still say can we get rid of him ASAP. Is it cause he sux ? No he doesn’t . It’s just he crossed the imaginary line from good to overated. To some he’s already in the turd on our cap range ,(not me personally) .
Smith is a limited dummy half . He’s a ball of energy , that I think would be best served as a victor radley type role . Help out at dummy half , but not your dummy half. In that role he can truely be elite maybe even Dally M elite . If that’s the role we are taking , I think his value changes .
Just my opinion .Maybe I shouldn’t tell the storm how to act , because you know they read my posts on a Wests tigers forum.....

Entitled to your thoughts however Mybe has been a liability with our Cap and as Captain.

How he made Origin (Bench) player was only because of his utility value, did not get much game time and lost series, not selected this year.

Valid point with Good to overrated but my thoughts are that he is over rated because of the $875/$900k when realistically can't hold down a position that he was signed up for.

Has an opportunity this next season to play full back and perform, off season knee operation should give him some confidence, not being captain also ensures he just concentrates making the team each week.

As for Brandon Smith most members happy to take Harry but by the sounds of it storm now rate him higher, in reality we are then taking 2nd best not looking at developing our best.

Dollars on another Hooker unsure if a smart move right now with our roster and besides does nothing to enhance our chances in 2021 as Storm will not release.

Pass hold the $ to upgrade some of our younger players if they perform in 2021 rather than losing to a club like the Storm or Roosters.

I’m not debating his qualities and strengths . Or even the reason he got to the point he’s at . My point is purely about perceived value . And it really is a fine line from being perceived as worth it to being perceived as not . Sometimes , it’s mental gymnastics like a guy is on 490k , that’s not so bad right ? But the same guy is on 550k , and that’s crazy money right ? Lol it’s 60k difference , but the way our brains interpret that stuff makes things perceived to be way worse . Any neuroscientists on here ? I’d love to have that explained to me , as to why our brains do that ?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Does anyone know how hard we are chasing smith? Or is it just another player who has put himself on the market and we are just saying we are interested and not actually going hard for him?

I think the question was posed to Madge , and he played a straight bat “he’s a relented footballer , every team should look at talented footballers . I coached him at NZ and he’s a great bloke “
What was he going to say “nah he’s a crap dummy half, he can’t pass the ball and in 4 years when concussions ends his career we will will have an albatross around our neck again . Good lock,great bloke , and an absolute menace ,but see previous comment “

The issue is coin. And value .
Is he good value at “500k . Yea probably”.
Is he good value at 300k ? “300k? Where do we sign”.
Is he good value at 800k ? “Smithy your a good bloke mate . Good footballer. Geez we like ya . We are just going to crunch the numbers and get back to you “
**tumbleweeds**
*** more tumbleweeds***
SMITH SIGNS WITH BULLDOGS.
“Damn we missed him”

Yeh I get what ur saying. So that’s all the talks there’s been about it though is what I mean? 800k is pretty crazy, not saying he definitely won’t be worth that in the years to come but atm seems crazy!! Is that what he’s asking or just a number u have thrown in? I’d love to have him at the tigers but as a lock. We would always have a backup hooker on the field if injury was to strike again.

Nah just chucking it around to emphasise my point . There’s like invisible lines where a player goes from good to over rated to a big turd on your salary cap.
Moses Mbye , is case in point of this . Played origin last year , was going to play this year , and yet we all still say can we get rid of him ASAP. Is it cause he sux ? No he doesn’t . It’s just he crossed the imaginary line from good to overated. To some he’s already in the turd on our cap range ,(not me personally) .
Smith is a limited dummy half . He’s a ball of energy , that I think would be best served as a victor radley type role . Help out at dummy half , but not your dummy half. In that role he can truely be elite maybe even Dally M elite . If that’s the role we are taking , I think his value changes .
Just my opinion .Maybe I shouldn’t tell the storm how to act , because you know they read my posts on a Wests tigers forum.....

Entitled to your thoughts however Mybe has been a liability with our Cap and as Captain.

How he made Origin (Bench) player was only because of his utility value, did not get much game time and lost series, not selected this year.

Valid point with Good to overrated but my thoughts are that he is over rated because of the $875/$900k when realistically can't hold down a position that he was signed up for.

Has an opportunity this next season to play full back and perform, off season knee operation should give him some confidence, not being captain also ensures he just concentrates making the team each week.

As for Brandon Smith most members happy to take Harry but by the sounds of it storm now rate him higher, in reality we are then taking 2nd best not looking at developing our best.

Dollars on another Hooker unsure if a smart move right now with our roster and besides does nothing to enhance our chances in 2021 as Storm will not release.

Pass hold the $ to upgrade some of our younger players if they perform in 2021 rather than losing to a club like the Storm or Roosters.

I’m not debating his qualities and strengths . Or even the reason he got to the point he’s at . My point is purely about perceived value . And it really is a fine line from being perceived as worth it to being perceived as not . Sometimes , it’s mental gymnastics like a guy is on 490k , that’s not so bad right ? But the same guy is on 550k , and that’s crazy money right ? Lol it’s 60k difference , but the way our brains interpret that stuff makes things perceived to be way worse . Any neuroscientists on here ? I’d love to have that explained to me , as to why our brains do that ?

I’m pretty sure it’s why things are advertised as .99. Eg a new car is 49,999, not 50k .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I'm curious myself, if Brandon Smith is such a good hooker, why Storm are allowing him to field offers and instead keep Harry Grant.

Does this mean Storm consider Harry a better hooker than Cheese?

I reckon Cheese is one of the better non-prop locks going around, him and Victor Radley. No idea why the bloke is so dead-set on playing FT hooker.

He’s a top 5 hooker in the NRL all signs point to Harry Grant being the best over the next 10 years.
Issue is price vs the potential of Simpkin. If you have a chance due to Madge’s relationship as NZ coach you have to take it. Simple as that. He’s wasted at lock albeit he’s damaging.

Mate , chuck 100 on Simpkins being there as well . He was rated higher than grant coming through . Not saying he will surpass him in the top grade , but the wraps on This kid are no joke . I saw a CC cup game last year with him in , and he was carving up men, at 18 . He’s going to be special .

 

[hsvjones]

Did I read somewhere about a Mystery Prop and next week ?

Where did you read this?

On this forum the other day... I just forget with topic i seen it in

 

[tigerap]

Buzzard reporting Walters keen to join his dad at the Broncs...WT want a player in return....wonder who.....

 

[carltonleach]

Buzzard reporting Walters keen to join his dad at the Broncs...WT want a player in return....wonder who.....

Hopefully it’s not the milf!!!

 

[Spud_Murphy]

I wonder if people will feel the same way about Smith in 12 months time once they've seen Simpkin play?

Don’t take this rudely, but what have you seen that we might not have ? Been trying to find further footage of him to no avail

A future star.

Maybe, but we’ve heard all this before. We’ve had quite a few young players with potential who were touted to be the next big thing, but they just never made the step up into first grade.

 

[JC99]

Buzzard reporting Walters keen to join his dad at the Broncs...WT want a player in return....wonder who.....

If Tigers managed to get decent compensation for a 26 year old reserve grade half with a busted ACL it would be the best thing we’ve done in forever.... and the stupidest thing Broncos have done too 😂