Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.

 

[earl]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

JAC is the only one I wanted here. The rest are ok or un proven.

Seems that they're spending their entire xap in the first year and the digs will have these guys locked in for 3 years.

If they dont do well they might struggle again..

I would have taken Flanagan and Cotirc aswell. Theres nothing wrong with building for the immediate team/season.

We are taking a different recruitment strategy to them.

We tried to sign JAC and Burton and missed out lol. They quite simply beat us in that regard. We’ve still done well this off season but would’ve been nice to sign some top quality players

If by "beat" us, you mean offered more money then yes.

IF that is true and accurate .... then it’s simple ..... we don’t want them at the club.

Of course it's true. Do you seriously think these guys went to the Dogs rather than us out of the goodness of their hearts.

 

[earl]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

JAC is the only one I wanted here. The rest are ok or un proven.

Seems that they're spending their entire xap in the first year and the digs will have these guys locked in for 3 years.

If they dont do well they might struggle again..

I would have taken Flanagan and Cotirc aswell. Theres nothing wrong with building for the immediate team/season.

We are taking a different recruitment strategy to them.

We tried to sign JAC and Burton and missed out lol. They quite simply beat us in that regard. We’ve still done well this off season but would’ve been nice to sign some top quality players

Plenty of good fish in the sea mate!
Slow and steady wins the race.

When can we sign an origin level fish ? been forever. We’ve got a better chance of developing talent with our young guys I reckon

Outside of the Roosters, the best clubs don't make "big fish" signings, they develop players rather than paying overs for players at their peak. Look at the 2 grand finalists last year.

To not sign one big name player in a decade is awful. Plenty of clubs make big signings whether they’re origin level or not, we haven’t. Not saying our recruitment this season has been bad but we haven’t had a real marquee signing in forever

I don't believe this at all. How many stars have Melbourne signed in their history. Answer - none.

 

[earl]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.

They don't look great next year but the following year they may be competitive. We will have to wait and see.

 

[Speed2burn]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.

I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short. If they rectify that then yes

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

 

[avocadoontoast]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.


I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

They've got 12 months to sort that out.

 

[Speed2burn]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.


I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

They've got 12 months to sort that out.

And they have tied up over 2 mil on 2 wingers and an unproven halfback

Up the doggies.

 

[JC99]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

JAC is the only one I wanted here. The rest are ok or un proven.

Seems that they're spending their entire xap in the first year and the digs will have these guys locked in for 3 years.

If they dont do well they might struggle again..

I would have taken Flanagan and Cotirc aswell. Theres nothing wrong with building for the immediate team/season.

We are taking a different recruitment strategy to them.

We tried to sign JAC and Burton and missed out lol. They quite simply beat us in that regard. We’ve still done well this off season but would’ve been nice to sign some top quality players

Plenty of good fish in the sea mate!
Slow and steady wins the race.

When can we sign an origin level fish ? been forever. We’ve got a better chance of developing talent with our young guys I reckon

Outside of the Roosters, the best clubs don't make "big fish" signings, they develop players rather than paying overs for players at their peak. Look at the 2 grand finalists last year.

To not sign one big name player in a decade is awful. Plenty of clubs make big signings whether they’re origin level or not, we haven’t. Not saying our recruitment this season has been bad but we haven’t had a real marquee signing in forever

I don't believe this at all. How many stars have Melbourne signed in their history. Answer - none.

That’s Melbourne, they have the best system and best coach of all time. No other club signs and develops as many future origin stars as they do, it’s incomparable. They had 4 of the best ever all come through their system at the same time, they had no reason to sign players from elsewhere

They’ve still signed big name players like Finch who had played plenty of origin before they signed him, or pinched young talent who were in demand from other clubs.

No other club is gonna do what Melbourne do. Every club signs highly rated players at some point, some more then others.

 

[rihannafan1]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

 

[Speed2burn]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

I really wanted Burton actually. But for the price the dogs offered, i'm not so sure. It could end up genius or really dumb

 

[JC99]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

I really wanted Burton actually. But for the price the dogs offered, i'm not so sure. It could end up genius or really dumb

Wasn’t it about $400k a season? That’s not bad really.

 

[JC99]

Anyway still plenty of opportunity for us to sign some big name players for 2022. We’ve already been seen talking to McInnes so I’m sure they’ve been in contact of plenty of guys. Happy with how we’re recruiting anyway hopefully it pays off

 

[Speed2burn]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

I really wanted Burton actually. But for the price the dogs offered, i'm not so sure. It could end up genius or really dumb

Wasn’t it about $400k a season? That’s not bad really.

I thought it was more in the 600-650k ball park tbh. If its the figure you mentioned then I guess that isn't half bad

 

[avocadoontoast]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.


I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

They've got 12 months to sort that out.

And they have tied up over 2 mil on 2 wingers and an unproven halfback

Up the doggies.

You say that, but let's look at it realistically.


- Cotric will be playing centre, he's on $650 apparently. Overpriced perhaps, but we can hardly laugh at them when we have BJ on similar. On 2020 form BJ is worth about $2.

- Addo Carr is on rumoured $600k. That's going to be about $100k more than Nofo is rumoured to re-sign for but Addo-Carr is an elite winger in the NRL.

- Burton is rumoured to have signed on $450k per season and is an absolute gun.

- Flanagan was reported by Brent Read to have signed with Bulldogs for $350k per season (of which the Roosters are picking up a huge chunk of 2021) and in 2020 outperformed Brooks in pretty much every stat that matters for a half. He's also an 80% goal kicker.

So it's not $2m on 2 wingers and an unproven half. It's $2m on a centre, the best winger in the game and a new halves pairing.

 

[jadtiger]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

I really wanted Burton actually. But for the price the dogs offered, i'm not so sure. It could end up genius or really dumb

Wasn’t it about $400k a season? That’s not bad really.

From what i have read it was over 600k,however i tend to disbelieve much of what the media say

 

[earl]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.


I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

They've got 12 months to sort that out.

And they have tied up over 2 mil on 2 wingers and an unproven halfback

Up the doggies.

You say that, but let's look at it realistically.


- Cotric will be playing centre, he's on $650 apparently. Overpriced perhaps, but we can hardly laugh at them when we have BJ on similar. On 2020 form BJ is worth about $2.

- Addo Carr is on rumoured $600k. That's going to be about $100k more than Nofo is rumoured to re-sign for but Addo-Carr is an elite winger in the NRL.

- Burton is rumoured to have signed on $450k per season and is an absolute gun.

- Flanagan was reported by Brent Read to have signed with Bulldogs for $350k per season (of which the Roosters are picking up a huge chunk of 2021) and in 2020 outperformed Brooks in pretty much every stat that matters for a half. He's also an 80% goal kicker.

So it's not $2m on 2 wingers and an unproven half. It's $2m on a centre, the best winger in the game and a new halves pairing.

Some good players there as well. They've done better than us and I think we've done well. JAC is also a gun. I'm not sure about Burton. Will he be better than AD ? I don't know.

 

[earl]

Mansour is rumoured on the SMH as going to Souths. I hope that is true.

 

[JC99]

Wow, we are a passionate bunch. If we had signed, heck, we did want to sign, a few of these Dogs guys we'd be singing their praises.

Time will tell but it's a top-heavy strategy the Dogs have taken. Still really uncertain about their forward pack.

I really wanted Burton actually. But for the price the dogs offered, i'm not so sure. It could end up genius or really dumb

Wasn’t it about $400k a season? That’s not bad really.

I thought it was more in the 600-650k ball park tbh. If its the figure you mentioned then I guess that isn't half bad

$600k is definitely a lot and paying for potential which we’ve seen doesn’t always work ?

 

[Speed2burn]

Dogs recruiting better than us.

They are just recruiting players with little upside and for high prices.

The three origin backs have little upside?

Basically three Origin wingers. If Dogs can sign up Tupou they'll have the box set, shame about their halves, hooker, fullback, centres and forwards.

Dogs are looking great for a 12th place finish

Maybe in 2021 but they will be very competitive in 2022.


I really don't see it. Still a good hooker and couple of forwards short

Barrett just seems trigger happy to me

They've got 12 months to sort that out.

And they have tied up over 2 mil on 2 wingers and an unproven halfback

Up the doggies.

You say that, but let's look at it realistically.


- Cotric will be playing centre, he's on $650 apparently. Overpriced perhaps, but we can hardly laugh at them when we have BJ on similar. On 2020 form BJ is worth about $2.

- Addo Carr is on rumoured $600k. That's going to be about $100k more than Nofo is rumoured to re-sign for but Addo-Carr is an elite winger in the NRL.

- Burton is rumoured to have signed on $450k per season and is an absolute gun.

- Flanagan was reported by Brent Read to have signed with Bulldogs for $350k per season (of which the Roosters are picking up a huge chunk of 2021) and in 2020 outperformed Brooks in pretty much every stat that matters for a half. He's also an 80% goal kicker.

So it's not $2m on 2 wingers and an unproven half. It's $2m on a centre, the best winger in the game and a new halves pairing.

JAC is going from an origin standard spine to JMK and two rookies. I think his chances will be extremely limited but yes he is the best winger in the game

Same deal with cotric in the sense he is going from a quality spine to an untested one

Kyle Flanagan played behind a good forward pack and still struggled

 

[JC99]

Mansour is rumoured on the SMH as going to Souths. I hope that is true.

Makes sense if they’re losing Allan. He was a Souths junior way back when too