Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296506) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296504) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296502) said:
@harvey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296494) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296414) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296375) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296199) said:
@tiger_talk said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296197) said:
@born-a-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296122) said:
**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

The cash was substantial.

Can you say how much ? I also think , what it would have taken to keep him , would have been gross malpractice. He is not worth 650k. And if they paid a hefty fee , say 300k , then now you’re saying he’s worth 750k a season . That’s outrageous. The manly fans are going to be ruthless if he is anything lower than elite . Because to ask for that money means you deal with that money’s problems .

I can't, but wish I had that sort of money going into my pocket. I can't believe what they valued him at and then to pay us compensation on top of that is just ridiculous.

How does the financial compensation work? Is it just cash between clubs? Or does it sit within the cap system, I.e does it allow us to spend more salary cap?
 
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296518) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296404) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296393) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296371) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296322) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296320) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296313) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296294) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296293) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296281) said:
@the_doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296187) said:
Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

I think he is trying to say is we are suffering badly from a lack of strike players in our backline.I agree and i like others would rather give players with the ability to break the line the chance to do so,at a risk maybe,but it's better then the alternative of slow and padentic.

All I hear about is plodder this , plodder that, we finally sign some guys who are anything but plodders , erratic ,unreliable , sure , but not plodders . And now they want to have a team of plodders lol
 
@frullens said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296519) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296506) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296504) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296502) said:
@harvey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296494) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296414) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296375) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296199) said:
@tiger_talk said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296197) said:
@born-a-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296122) said:
**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

The cash was substantial.

Can you say how much ? I also think , what it would have taken to keep him , would have been gross malpractice. He is not worth 650k. And if they paid a hefty fee , say 300k , then now you’re saying he’s worth 750k a season . That’s outrageous. The manly fans are going to be ruthless if he is anything lower than elite . Because to ask for that money means you deal with that money’s problems .

I can't, but wish I had that sort of money going into my pocket. I can't believe what they valued him at and then to pay us compensation on top of that is just ridiculous.

How does the financial compensation work? Is it just cash between clubs? Or does it sit within the cap system, I.e does it allow us to spend more salary cap?

Just cash, we did try to use some of it as an incentive for Penrith to release Laurie.
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296520) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296518) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296404) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296393) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296371) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296322) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296320) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296313) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296294) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296293) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296281) said:
@the_doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296187) said:
Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

I think he is trying to say is we are suffering badly from a lack of strike players in our backline.I agree and i like others would rather give players with the ability to break the line the chance to do so,at a risk maybe,but it's better then the alternative of slow and padentic.

All I hear about is plodder this , plodder that, we finally sign some guys who are anything but plodders , erratic ,unreliable , sure , but not plodders . And now they want to have a team of plodders lol

Big bodies and speed are big attacking weapons,its as simple as that.
 
@harvey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296494) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296414) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296375) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296199) said:
@tiger_talk said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296197) said:
@born-a-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296122) said:
**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

I believe we got the best outcome possible..
Joe O was playing SOO 2019 and missed last year because his coach sucked and clearly the players didn't believe in him as all players failed under him last year.
Doesn't matter how you look at it because we replaced Josh with Joe and for me that is an upgrade plus getting cash as well.. Very very smart business.
No Way I would of paid 600k for Josh A and we would of lost him after this year anyway when his contract finishes.
 
Just as an aside , has anyone noticed how poorly a lot of clubs have recruited . It’s the Titans at number 1 for me , and then honestly us at number 2 , followed by the dogs and warriors , then it’s crickets to anyone else . It’s surprised me how little some clubs did to improve , especially the ones at the bottom.
I think the sharks , dragons , cowboys , are in for long years . They have definitely gone backwards . Also sneaky gone backwards ..... the panthers ! They’ve lost Tetevano and Tamou . Both big metre eaters for them , and they’re hoping Eiso picks up the slack apparently . I know they have stars , but that’s some holes to fill.
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296535) said:
Just as an aside , has anyone noticed how poorly a lot of clubs have recruited . It’s the Titans at number 1 for me , and then honestly us at number 2 , followed by the dogs and warriors , then it’s crickets to anyone else . It’s surprised me how little some clubs did to improve , especially the ones at the bottom.
I think the sharks , dragons , cowboys , are in for long years . They have definitely gone backwards . Also sneaky gone backwards ..... the panthers ! They’ve lost Tetevano and Tamou . Both big metre eaters for them , and they’re hoping Eiso picks up the slack apparently . I know they have stars , but that’s some holes to fill.

Excellent post, yes I think we have recruited better than most other teams - especially considering there wasn't much on the market this year
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296452) said:
after reading thru 15pages i can confirm that E=mc^2

Much better hypothesis than some of the garbage and cat fights going on in this thread atm. It's getting to be a long, long off-season with th name-calling and petty bickering some are resorting to!
 
@mikey said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296540) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296452) said:
after reading thru 15pages i can confirm that E=mc^2

Much better hypothesis than some of the garbage and cat fights going on in this thread atm. It's getting to be a long, long off-season with th name-calling and petty bickering some are resorting to!

Over 3 bucks, good odds, I'm putting a lazy hunge on the the tugs!
 
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296389) said:
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296384) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296371) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296322) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296320) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296313) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296294) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296293) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296281) said:
@the_doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296187) said:
Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

Experience at 2 premiership winning clubs?
Not much in the first 17.
Maybe ‘these people’ don’t watch reserve grade to have seen much of Momo?


Did you read the rest of the post?

As a matter of fact I did.
I chose to address a certain comment... which I included in my reply.
Possibly your big brain finds it hard to understand too clearly due to being overloaded looking at yourself in the mirror and telling yourself how wonderful you are.
 
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296611) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296389) said:
@cktiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296384) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296371) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296322) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296320) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296313) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296294) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296293) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296281) said:
@the_doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296187) said:
Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

Experience at 2 premiership winning clubs?
Not much in the first 17.
Maybe ‘these people’ don’t watch reserve grade to have seen much of Momo?


Did you read the rest of the post?

As a matter of fact I did.
I chose to address a certain comment... which I included in my reply.
Possibly your big brain finds it understand too clearly due to being overloaded looking at yourself in the mirror and telling yourself how wonderful you are.

Pretty sure he's banned sooo
 
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296309) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296179) said:
Penrith would not take Leilua for the same reasons we should not be counting on him to perform commensurate with his salary. Talau and Kei ahead of him everytime.

There were times last season that I may have agreed with you on that point, but this year is contract year for Joey and he has already shown signs of his willingness to get his fitness levels up to where they should be.

All he's got to do now is get a brain transplant and he will absolutely kill it this year.

Unfortunately other teams know how to put Leilua off his game as per the Panther's match. I cannot envisage any scenario where it is feasible to have two high maintenance type centres in our team. I feel for Momirovski because he is a team player, a competitor and is a consistent performer.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296615) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296309) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296179) said:
Penrith would not take Leilua for the same reasons we should not be counting on him to perform commensurate with his salary. Talau and Kei ahead of him everytime.

There were times last season that I may have agreed with you on that point, but this year is contract year for Joey and he has already shown signs of his willingness to get his fitness levels up to where they should be.

All he's got to do now is get a brain transplant and he will absolutely kill it this year.

Unfortunately other teams know how to put Leilua off his game as per the Panther's match. I cannot envisage any scenario where it is feasible to have two high maintenance type centres in our team. I feel for Momirovski because he is a team player, a competitor and is a consistent performer.

I don’t believe the panthers intentionally hit LJ high just to get Joey fired up mate ay
 
Many posts here about Momo,and current centre pairing.We have been below par in the backs,especially without a specialist fullback who can make ground from the back ,but more importantly to chime in and link up with the halves and outside backs.This is the main reason i think that the halves especially have struggled.With Laurie coming this should change.Meanwhile we need JTJ and Lulu to create opportunities out the back.It may not work but its better then the alteratives.
 
Heard Sivo's manager is testing the waters. Thoughts?
Also Klemmer not being in the Knights leadership group might mean something..
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296623) said:
Every other team knows the blueprint to get him riled.. Opposition coaches will be all over it.

He's been this way his entire career and he's managed to be Dally M centre of the year multiple times. It's up to Joey whether he can find that level again, other times trying to rile him up shouldn't make a difference.

He's taking the right steps to have an improved year, now we have to wait and see if it happens on the field. If not then we can let him walk
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296626) said:
Heard Sivo's manager is testing the waters. Thoughts?
Also Klemmer not being in the Knights leadership group might mean something..

I think Sivo would be a great recruit, he’s a great finisher, though don’t know much his character?
 
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296415) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296411) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296404) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296393) said:
@big-brain said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296371) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296322) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296320) said:
@tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296313) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296294) said:
@2005magic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296293) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296281) said:
@the_doc said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296187) said:
Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

Going in for JTJ
Early 3 clubs, Souths, Panthers and Gold Coast kicked him to the curb.

Then he changed.

Brisbane and Souths wanted him. Wayne Bennett took him at Souths and he would be hard OUT if Wayne did not want him. You just have Dane Gagai, Campbell Graham and Jed Cartright pushing for spots.

Madge isn't a softie. JTJ is at Origin level. He will perform well if he doesn't get injured.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1296623) said:
Every other team knows the blueprint to get him riled.. Opposition coaches will be all over it.

Every NRL coach's tip sheet when they play BJ will have a plan to niggle him i'm sure of it, he is a penalty magnet. In saying that, he can also win you games although we didn't see much of that ability last year
 

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