@kafta said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395951) said:
All this talk about leadership ( Finucane) sounds like last year with Tamou.
Who is to say it wont turn out the same way.
I agree completely. Finucane was an honest plodder with the Dogs but is yet another example of the brilliance and influence of Craig Bellamy in transforming his limited skills into excellence.
But, we don't have Craig Bellamy or his Storm systems. There is no guarantee that Finucane would offer the WT what he does at the Storm, so why pay some inflated price for him?
That’s exactly my thoughts
**I’m not exactly against signing him,but he may be another Proctor,Glasby or Blair at another team.**
Yep it's why I'd also prefer Brandon Smith alongside of him. Not doubting his leadership skills at all but just trying to factor in how his age, our team needs and him coming from that system will vary from his current influence or input.
It wouldn't exactly matter to me if it wasn't a huge contract offer. But I feel we'd need to be getting game breakers for the price and length (of contract) though.
If it’s a possibility in any shape or form …. Throw all the $s on the “Cheese”, follow that up with Mr. Crichton and then and then any other player as a distant third.
Crichton has always topped my wishlist - him, Munster and Manu - and have always enjoyed watching B Smith play but especially moreso this year. Except last week of course.
Find he gives it his all, every game.
There's talk about getting Finucane specifically for leadership, in assisting Tamou, but our leadership group needs to be called out for failing with this too. Feel it's imperative for the group to help with our younger guys.
IIRC it's Doueihi, Brooks, Twal and Nofo in addition to the captain. Maybe we have named the wrong captain due to his limited capacity to lead at all times but there should be no problems with the rest of them. IMO it's probably the only area where Brooks warrants some criticism. (Though against the Eels he was very vocal). However, the last 2 games had nothing to do with his role for the team.
Leadership is the biggest issue
Madge talks about learning to wrestle back momentum in the ebbs and flows of the game. You wrestle back momentum with strong leaders.
Our 2020 leadership group:
Tamou is physically struggling to keep up. Heay be a eloquent talker but I don't see him barking out orders on the field.
Brooks is naturally quiet - getter better when going well, non existent when going gets tough
Twal is naturally quiet - grat worker but not a leader
Nofo - on the wing. Don't see him talking. Smirks a lot or looks for the camera. Don't see him as a team player.
Doeuhi is a true leader but has been moved to centre. Should be playing in the spine and take control.
Changes for 2021:
I think when Hastings comes, he is a barker and a natural leader, make him 7. With douehi at 6 and Brooks at 14. Time to make changes.
We need a strong alpha forward leader.
I'd be using the sheens and madge uk connections to find a big strong pommy. Similar to luke Thompson at bulldogs, Graham, Burgess
Hastings and Doueihi would be a terrible pairing.
Don't be so certain....
I think they could be very dangerous if their defence is on point.
Way too slow
Myth.
It's not and I am still not convinced that Doueihi is a 5/8th anyway.
His best position is at 6...
The whole slow thing is a myth.
He's a good runner and could be a star at 6 if the coach didn't move him to cater to Brooks.
I believe it's the position he wants to play.
Having a confident 7 outside him like Hastings would allow him to shine.
These two would feed off each other like Walker and Reynolds.
I agree
I'm a supporter of Brooks, but think this team need a stronger leader at 7
Hastings and Douehi are both natural leaders.
All this leader/alpha/introvert/extrovert business is completely invented rubbish. A team doesnt need a leader/extrovert at 6 and 7, it needs a player that passes the ball to the right player at the right time and has the right players in the right positions.
Doueihi can be the best bloke and the best "leader" in the team, if he doesnt pass it to his centre or 2RF it doesnt matter.
Sorry I don't agree
Name one great half from history who lack confidence and didn't boss the team around
That's their job.
They pass it the the right player in the right position, because they have told that player where to be. Because they dictated the 3 plays before to set up the next play.
We did this already
1, Melbourne - Munster, confident half
2, Penrith - Cleary and Romey, confident halves
3, Parramatta, Moses - Confident half
4, South's- Walker and Josh, confident halves
Look at the bottom teams...
Broncos, none
Dogs, none
Coincidence?
I think not...
Winning teams always have confident, talkative leaders in their important positions.
I think Brooks is one of the few players trying his guts out. I've seen a lot of improvement this year. I really like brooks, want him in the team.
But after the weekends disguisting display, I just feel we need someone at 7 who takes control of the team. Who after the first or 2nd try, pulls the players in, gives them a rev up and says follow me.
Brooks isn't that player.
From what I've seen Hastings is that player. So
I'd like to see Hastings at 7 next year.
I would love to see Brooks running at 6.
I'd like to see Deouhi get his hands on the ball more and still have a licence to kick. If that's at centre, lock or going to 6.
No 7 would have helped change the game on Saturday, we were down 30-0 by the time we got the ball.
Brooks has seriously been our best player for about 6 weeks now.
If we lose Brooks, people will really appreciate quickly how much defence he does.
Brooks is without doubt the best footballer in the team. It must be so frustrating at times for him to see the missed opportunities unfolding, but he just bites his lip and says nothing. And this is what happens when he should be less serious and vocalise the event pre and post. If he gets that going on the park then his leadership qualities will go to another level imo.
X2.
This is why I'm a fan of getting Mitchell Pearce for the mere fact of how he personally handled the pressures of becoming a top performing NRL player.
Both showed the right amount of drive early in their careers but their trajectories went opposite ways.
On one hand we have a player who aligned himself with a winning culture to escape the unwanted expectations of his father's association with the club and then we have Brooks, a person determined to face this head on but has been overburdened by it.
Mitch reached the great heights we'd hoped for with Brooks and having someone with these achievements - who's been selfish in their approach and always extrinsically motivated - beside him, can certainly help him gain the type of mentality it requires to get there.
It wouldn't take the team backwards in any way and tbh I'd be offering Mbye and Walters on a swap deal to ensure it doesn't.
