Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Ultimate Warrior]

Personally, we need lots of things, one of those being more leadership. Thats why I would look at Josh Hodgson. A hoooker, a middle forward and a leader. An old version of Brandon Smith and very achieveable.

He has one year to go at Canberra and is unlikely to go beyond that at 32 by the end of next year.

I'd give him 3 years, 2 years and the third with a club option. He wont get that at Canberra.

34 by the end of the contract. we can extend if we need. And buys time for Liddle/Simpkin.

Brings professionalism and leadership. And is a good price. Supposedly, he is on $750K I'd tip in $500K for the next three, with the raiders paying $250 of that next year.

EDIT - Was player managed by Isaac Moses, a huge negative.

No problems if we approach him. He would be a good short term pick up as we sort out our longer term #9- Liddle / Simpkin.

Paulo, Hodgson and Pele as our front row - oof!!

 

[jirskyr]

Didn’t play Jeff lima in first grade

Well technically he did, he handed Jeff Lima his debut, 2 matches off the bench in 2004. We did win the comp without starting Jeff Lima and we signed Keith Galloway for 2006.

And he didn't choose Groat over Fifita, he traded Fifita in order to get Cronulla to take on Bryce Gibbs (Cronulla demanded Fifita as part of the trade). So it was a grave error, but not an error related to Groat.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Didn’t play Jeff lima in first grade

Well technically he did, he handed Jeff Lima his debut, 2 matches off the bench in 2004. We did win the comp without starting Jeff Lima and we signed Keith Galloway for 2006.

And he didn't choose Groat over Fifita, he traded Fifita in order to get Cronulla to take on Bryce Gibbs (Cronulla demanded Fifita as part of the trade). So it was a grave error, but not an error related to Groat.

Weren't there disciplinary issue between Fifta and Sheens at the time.

 

[Tatts888]

At that stage Fafita was coming off the bench and wanted a start. Sheens put him back to reggies to so as to get some game time up and Fifita didnt turn up to training. Hence to result.

 

[851]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

 

[jirskyr]

Didn’t play Jeff lima in first grade

Well technically he did, he handed Jeff Lima his debut, 2 matches off the bench in 2004. We did win the comp without starting Jeff Lima and we signed Keith Galloway for 2006.

And he didn't choose Groat over Fifita, he traded Fifita in order to get Cronulla to take on Bryce Gibbs (Cronulla demanded Fifita as part of the trade). So it was a grave error, but not an error related to Groat.

Weren't there disciplinary issue between Fifta and Sheens at the time.

Hasn't Fifita always had disciplinary issues? I think it would be generous to say he's only ever strung together a handful of incident-free seasons.

 

[BAGNF05]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

 

[851]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

The bloke with terrible service that can’t keep up during games? No thanks. Liddle had his chance this year. Time for Simpkin to step in.

Liddle has had more than enough chances this year, I would bring Simpkin back next week

 

[Madge]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

Toughness is what you are using to show his shortcomings as a good hooker?

 

[851]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

There is so much wrong with that I can’t even respond, your love of Liddle blinds you from seeing his missed tackles poor passes and ball hogging himself.
I didn’t down vote your post because I don’t down vote, but boy I really should have

 

[BAGNF05]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

Toughness is what you are using to show his shortcomings as a good hooker?

No I said people like him because he’s quick. He’s got no mongrel, isn’t crafty and is slow to dummy half. Throws too many bad passes and has defensive issues. Toughness is just a summary of what a good hooker should be.

See Brandon Smith.

 

[Madge]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

Toughness is what you are using to show his shortcomings as a good hooker?

No I said people like him because he’s quick. He’s got no mongrel, isn’t crafty and is slow to dummy half. Throws too many bad passes and has defensive issues. Toughness is just a summary of what a good hooker should be.

See Brandon Smith.

Right, apologies mate.

 

[BAGNF05]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

Toughness is what you are using to show his shortcomings as a good hooker?

No I said people like him because he’s quick. He’s got no mongrel, isn’t crafty and is slow to dummy half. Throws too many bad passes and has defensive issues. Toughness is just a summary of what a good hooker should be.

See Brandon Smith.

Right, apologies mate.

Apologies that came across a little ranty, this team is bad for my health.

 

[Madge]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Liddle has shown the last month he is no star, Simpkin who has had 5 games is the better prospect

He’s going backwards. People got fooled cos he has a bit of leg speed and makes the odd line break. If you are creating a first grade hooker, speed is one of the last ingredients you need.

Start with toughness.

Toughness is what you are using to show his shortcomings as a good hooker?

No I said people like him because he’s quick. He’s got no mongrel, isn’t crafty and is slow to dummy half. Throws too many bad passes and has defensive issues. Toughness is just a summary of what a good hooker should be.

See Brandon Smith.

Right, apologies mate.

Apologies that came across a little ranty, this team is bad for my health.

haha I think we can all excuse each other after a loss mate.

 

[Wildcat777]

Far out we need a back rower, lock and at least 1 centre more than anything. No point talking about any other position. Waste of time. Will not improve the team. Well maybe in Lala land. How is this not obvious? Glad the bulk of the ppl posting are not involved in recruitment. Like me, have no idea and stick to their day job. Or sing kumbiyah!

 

[Kelce68]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

This is possibly the worst take on any up and coming player I have ever read.

 

[Tiger5150]

Our recruitment was dreadful last off season too; imagine if Penrith hadn't agreed to the Momo/Laurie swap.


Why did we swap out our best centre? I suppose in hindsight we saved a young man’s career , Laurie probably wouldn’t have played much footy if it wasn’t for the Tigers.

That we had already signed Laurie for next year but rushed him over for Momo highlights how bad our roster and recruitment was.

The ceiling of JTJ and BJ are miles higher than Momo. Unfortunately the floor of both of them are lower than Momo. It was a gamble worth taking and was all for it argued with a few Momo lovers at the time. I admit I’d love to have Momo now, but not at the expense of Laurie

 

[Tiger5150]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

Russ, your love and dedication is admirable but after all this time is clear. Liddle is mediocre. He was great setting up our first try. Missed an easy tackle to lick off their first try. Poor delivery all day.

 

[barnzee]

Interesting to note that not only is Brandon Smith off contract at the end of 2022 but Harry Grant actually has a Mutuak option for 2023 so if effectively off contract at the end of 2022 at this stage as well. I say go all in for Harry


last year showed having Grant in our team isn't priority and I would extend that to Smith as well.

We had Grant and still missed the finals terribly, we have far more important areas to fill before throwing marquee money at Hooker.

Without Grant we’d be last.

But seriously, I’d throw 1Milly at Grant. Even 1.1..

The influence and everything he had on the whole of Wests Tigers, I actually never felt or seen that effect a player can do to a team.

What do you do with the two capable hookers we presently have?

The 19 yr old nsw cup player or the injury riddled bloke who missed 8 tackles vs the Warriors and left dummy half empty and tjrows a bunch of average passes. You give them to someone else snd take the Origin star

Too bad the tigers have re-signed Liddle.

Only for 2 years and Grant would not leave the Storm until 2023 anyway.
You could offload Liddle pretty easy I reason and Simpkin could be a super sub / back up.

Or you could get rid of Simpkin and keep the better hooker at only 24.

Lol ? or get rid of the guy who can't play 80 minutes and misses 6 tackles and throws passes around ankles. At least Simpkin is still developing. Simpkin will be an 80 min hooker

At this stage Simpkin is below average - will he ever get above the mediocrity line....who knows. Anyone can play 80 mins Mate. It is how you play the eighty minutes. The games I saw Simpkin play in the NRL, he was not an 80 minute player either.

I think I would get rid of the guy who also can't play 80 minutes, stands with his hands on his hips after he passes the ball, hogs the ball in try scoring situations, slow as a wet week, no experience and couldn't tackle a decent size sandwich.

Your man was ordinary again today mate