Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[LeichhardtTiger]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Good

 

[Harvey]

We're going to really struggle with Adam out.....
As much as I want Madge to succeed, he's been screwed by the club. We needed a tough rebuild after Cleary messed us up but the board have made Madge's position untenable. I hope we come out swinging next year but unless their is a major mental makeover we are in the same position.
Hopefully he surrounds himself with better ppl and can sort the club out otherwise whoever our assistant is, he/she will be coaching us by mid year

What do you mean rebuild? More overpriced veterans on long deals?

We have made players at a number of big names, but they ran a mile.

 

[Shooter Mcgavin]

Upgrade steffano, dane Laurie and those that other clubs will target first.

Yeah for sure that’s what I’d do. Fill the remaining roster spots with guys like Peachey, Sam McIntyre, Luki, Schonig, E-Lee for the right price if they’ll come.

Would still want big $$$ free in our 2022 cap is the main thing, allowing a proper bite at one or a couple of Harry, Cheese, Joey manu, Angus, Farnworth etc

Sorry to detract but everytime I see you post I'm always hoping for a "just stay out of my way... or you'll pay" quote. Or any other line from his character in Happy Gilmore, really.

??

 

[Guest]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Better them than us.

 

[WT2K]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Better them than us.

My thoughts as well

 

[PJ_]

We're going to really struggle with Adam out.....
As much as I want Madge to succeed, he's been screwed by the club. We needed a tough rebuild after Cleary messed us up but the board have made Madge's position untenable. I hope we come out swinging next year but unless their is a major mental makeover we are in the same position.
Hopefully he surrounds himself with better ppl and can sort the club out otherwise whoever our assistant is, he/she will be coaching us by mid year

What do you mean rebuild? More overpriced veterans on long deals?

We have made players at a number of big names, but they ran a mile.

I meant remodel. So used to saying rebuild with this club

 

[tony soprano]

Have Saints confirmed suili?

 

[Harvey]

Have Saints confirmed suili?

Has been seen sleeping in cars around the gong, so I assume he is a lock

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Woods to Dragons, Peachey to Tigers. The two spoon contenders making some absolutely massive moves.

 

[WT2K]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Woods to Dragons, Peachey to Tigers. The two spoon contenders making some absolutely massive moves.

2022 Battle for the spoon will be epic

 

[Harvey]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Woods to Dragons, Peachey to Tigers. The two spoon contenders making some absolutely massive moves.

2022 Battle for the spoon will be epic

I think the raiders will issue a challenge, but think we have them all covered.

 

[Needaname]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Natural replacement for Vaughn.

 

[cochise]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

 

[yeahcaz]

Brent Read reporting woods to the dragons

Woods to Dragons, Peachey to Tigers. The two spoon contenders making some absolutely massive moves.

2022 Battle for the spoon will be epic

I think the raiders will issue a challenge, but think we have them all covered.

Cows will be down there

 

[Masterton]

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don’t find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

I know I have to take a step back from time to time. When you care so much about something, it can drag you down when the team is terrible.

 

[cochise]

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don’t find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

I know I have to take a step back from time to time. When you care so much about something, it can drag you down when the team is terrible.

I just find the positives where I can.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Think theres a reasonable chance Bellamy will release Munster before next season starts to a Qld club for next year,given player has publicly stated he yearns to" return home" in 2023
Besides having had very n ordinary 18 mths on the footy field for both Storm(they looked considerably better with Hynes at 6,who is now gone) and in SOO where he was invisible ,plus his coke habit,and worst of all Munster looked way overweight dancing on that table and iy=t was just after the prelim final
Bellamy wld be fuming, and quite possibly may take a stand to clearly set standards within the team
And whichever Qld club takes him in 22, may have to shed players to accomodate Munsters $700k..quickly

18 months? He was Wally Lewis medalist and Storms best player in their finals series last year. He started this year off slow but kicked into gear all but the prelim.

Storm isn't gonna let Munster go without a fight. If they want to get rid of him, they will wait until ana amazing offer comes through and they have a better no.6 signed up.

Storm have called a presser for Tues.I reckon Munster,a repeat offender,will be lucky to see out the week with Storm tbh
Bellamy wld be privately fuming that a certain grand final spot was waylaid,and too many issues with Munster who had a poor season and worse leadership
I dont want him.but he may create opportunities for WTs

I would have no problems overlooking our no DH policy for Munster. Would make us a top 6 team overnight.

Him and Harry and we're sorted.

Well the spine is sorted. Still need two centres, a back up 1-5 who can fill in well at fullback, another winger, two second rowers and another prop.

 

[GCfan]

Think theres a reasonable chance Bellamy will release Munster before next season starts to a Qld club for next year,given player has publicly stated he yearns to" return home" in 2023
Besides having had very n ordinary 18 mths on the footy field for both Storm(they looked considerably better with Hynes at 6,who is now gone) and in SOO where he was invisible ,plus his coke habit,and worst of all Munster looked way overweight dancing on that table and iy=t was just after the prelim final
Bellamy wld be fuming, and quite possibly may take a stand to clearly set standards within the team
And whichever Qld club takes him in 22, may have to shed players to accomodate Munsters $700k..quickly

18 months? He was Wally Lewis medalist and Storms best player in their finals series last year. He started this year off slow but kicked into gear all but the prelim.

Storm isn't gonna let Munster go without a fight. If they want to get rid of him, they will wait until ana amazing offer comes through and they have a better no.6 signed up.

Storm have called a presser for Tues.I reckon Munster,a repeat offender,will be lucky to see out the week with Storm tbh
Bellamy wld be privately fuming that a certain grand final spot was waylaid,and too many issues with Munster who had a poor season and worse leadership
I dont want him.but he may create opportunities for WTs

I would have no problems overlooking our no DH policy for Munster. Would make us a top 6 team overnight.

Him and Harry and we're sorted.

Well the spine is sorted. Still need two centres, a back up 1-5 who can fill in well at fullback, another winger, two second rowers and another prop.

You don’t think we need a few more?? ?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Think theres a reasonable chance Bellamy will release Munster before next season starts to a Qld club for next year,given player has publicly stated he yearns to" return home" in 2023
Besides having had very n ordinary 18 mths on the footy field for both Storm(they looked considerably better with Hynes at 6,who is now gone) and in SOO where he was invisible ,plus his coke habit,and worst of all Munster looked way overweight dancing on that table and iy=t was just after the prelim final
Bellamy wld be fuming, and quite possibly may take a stand to clearly set standards within the team
And whichever Qld club takes him in 22, may have to shed players to accomodate Munsters $700k..quickly

18 months? He was Wally Lewis medalist and Storms best player in their finals series last year. He started this year off slow but kicked into gear all but the prelim.

Storm isn't gonna let Munster go without a fight. If they want to get rid of him, they will wait until ana amazing offer comes through and they have a better no.6 signed up.

Storm have called a presser for Tues.I reckon Munster,a repeat offender,will be lucky to see out the week with Storm tbh
Bellamy wld be privately fuming that a certain grand final spot was waylaid,and too many issues with Munster who had a poor season and worse leadership
I dont want him.but he may create opportunities for WTs

I would have no problems overlooking our no DH policy for Munster. Would make us a top 6 team overnight.

Him and Harry and we're sorted.

Well the spine is sorted. Still need two centres, a back up 1-5 who can fill in well at fullback, another winger, two second rowers and another prop.

You don’t think we need a few more?? ?

That's a bare minimum for mine.

 

[Balmainian]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Nah, I'll think what I like and it'll help me get through it just fine. If I have to rest on past success I'd rather just rewatch 2005 and 2010.

Who is a better option that is available?