Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tig_prmz]

Panthers were definitely the best defensive team of the year but I think their defence is a little bit overrated in the Grand Final. Souths actually made quite a few breaks.. almost 7 or 8 that I counted. Penrith were just fitter and stronger. They honestyl won this comp on being the fittest side.

 

[Nelson]

@GNR4LIFE I think if injuries happen i see peach at center but I think we might end up signing Curtis Scott for that spot and gildart will start in reserves then come in round 4 for the other center spot depending on pre season

If Walker and Burns are off the market then I’d sign Scott. Not a lot of other options in the centres.

 

[cochise]

@GNR4LIFE I think if injuries happen i see peach at center but I think we might end up signing Curtis Scott for that spot and gildart will start in reserves then come in round 4 for the other center spot depending on pre season

If Walker and Burns are off the market then I’d sign Scott. Not a lot of other options in the centres.

I would give Scott a crack on a one year deal.

 

[TSupps05]

I really think Dylan Walker showed his value at the backend of this year. I'd happily play him at centre where we lack.

He also offers great utility

 

[Lee's fedora]

Walker is in the same spot as connor Watson he wants to be starting but at manly he will be a 14 for the foreseeable future i see him resigning with manly or headed to souths or parra

 

[Plisskin]

Panthers were definitely the best defensive team of the year but I think their defence is a little bit overrated in the Grand Final. Souths actually made quite a few breaks.. almost 7 or 8 that I counted. Penrith were just fitter and stronger. They honestyl won this comp on being the fittest side.

I wouldn’t just count their defence as their front on tackling.
Cleary’s kicking was defensive as well.
I’d love to see a stat on how many drop outs they forced through allowing the opposition back 3 to defuse a bomb, then drive them back in goal. Equally, I’d like to see how many times they allowed opposite 3/4s to run around them before they threw them over the sideline. Their scramble was excellent and their goal line defence very good.
They were buggered last night and there for the taking. That said, a good attacking side like Souths couldn’t get them. Same as Melbourne the week before and Parra before them.

 

[Lee's fedora]

We need a hit man in our forwards pack someone who is gonna pressure the kicker all day someone like a Ruben wiki , Ian Roberts , Spud Carroll someone to strike fear into the kicker

 

[watersider]

I'd sign Josh Hodgson for a couple of years if he becomes available with Tom Starling getting extended. He's a smart, gritty player who still has a lot of quality in his play. Think we need more starch in the middle and I think he'd be better as an organiser and distributor than either Simpkins or Liddle. Obviously not a long term option and I'd say he wouldn't be a certain starter but I think our hooking position is something I'm very concerned about.

 

[Lee's fedora]

I really like the look of tom starling I think Canberra see him as hodgesons replacement

 

[Tiger5150]

I'd sign Josh Hodgson for a couple of years if he becomes available with Tom Starling getting extended. He's a smart, gritty player who still has a lot of quality in his play. Think we need more starch in the middle and I think he'd be better as an organiser and distributor than either Simpkins or Liddle. Obviously not a long term option and I'd say he wouldn't be a certain starter but I think our hooking position is something I'm very concerned about.

On his way to the Titans

 

[watersider]

I'd sign Josh Hodgson for a couple of years if he becomes available with Tom Starling getting extended. He's a smart, gritty player who still has a lot of quality in his play. Think we need more starch in the middle and I think he'd be better as an organiser and distributor than either Simpkins or Liddle. Obviously not a long term option and I'd say he wouldn't be a certain starter but I think our hooking position is something I'm very concerned about.

On his way to the Titans

Will be good for them if true. Mitch Rein and whoever else they had at hooker made it their weakest position.

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

@GNR4LIFE I think if injuries happen i see peach at center but I think we might end up signing Curtis Scott for that spot and gildart will start in reserves then come in round 4 for the other center spot depending on pre season

If Walker and Burns are off the market then I’d sign Scott. Not a lot of other options in the centres.

I would give Scott a crack on a one year deal.

Yes to Scott from me

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

@GNR4LIFE I think if injuries happen i see peach at center but I think we might end up signing Curtis Scott for that spot and gildart will start in reserves then come in round 4 for the other center spot depending on pre season

If Walker and Burns are off the market then I’d sign Scott. Not a lot of other options in the centres.

I would give Scott a crack on a one year deal.

Does he run good lines?

 

[happy_tiger]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

He’ll still be our number 1 choice should Madge get the sack. He’s off contract at the end of next season

We’re probably his number 16 choice. It’s obvious he didn’t want the job and the only thing that saved Madge is the fact no one wanted the job.

No, it’s not obvious. You’re speculating. Madge was never getting sacked, you just fell for the media spin.

Lee spin ...

 

[TigerLouis]

If Peachey has signed we have three spots left.
I would sign Curtis Scott, upgrade Logen Dillon & resign James Roberts to cover Gildart if it doesn’t work out & he can also cover wing if Nofoaluma doesn’t improve. Dillon would cover Laurie if injured. I would also make Hastings our captain as he looked like a natural leader at Wigan & Brooks to hooker which I think would take the pressure of him & he could be dangerous from dummy half as he could create quick darts, is solid defensively & could be another kicking option for the team but also have Liddle on the bench to work in tandem with Brooks. Pascoe also confirmed by email that Kei & Hoffman are part of the 30 man squad for 2022.
My Top 30
Laurie
Nofoaluma
Gildart
Scott
Maumalo
Douiehi
Hastings (c)
Peachey
Blore
Leilua
Twal
Brooks
Stefano
Bench
Liddle
Ofahengaue
Mikaele
Musgrove
Reserves
Dillon
Kei
Roberts
Hoffman
Kepaoa
Talau
Madden
Simpkins
Garner
Tuilagi
Seyfarth
Simpkin
Tamou

 

[tig_prmz]

Panthers were definitely the best defensive team of the year but I think their defence is a little bit overrated in the Grand Final. Souths actually made quite a few breaks.. almost 7 or 8 that I counted. Penrith were just fitter and stronger. They honestyl won this comp on being the fittest side.

I wouldn’t just count their defence as their front on tackling.
Cleary’s kicking was defensive as well.
I’d love to see a stat on how many drop outs they forced through allowing the opposition back 3 to defuse a bomb, then drive them back in goal. Equally, I’d like to see how many times they allowed opposite 3/4s to run around them before they threw them over the sideline. Their scramble was excellent and their goal line defence very good.
They were buggered last night and there for the taking. That said, a good attacking side like Souths couldn’t get them. Same as Melbourne the week before and Parra before them.

Line speed, scramble and toughness. I meant it more that it's not the defensive structures or coaching that got him there. I know Ciraldo is getting a lot of credit but I think it's whoever is in-charge of their fitness has played a huge role.

 

[clontarfkid]

@GNR4LIFE I think if injuries happen i see peach at center but I think we might end up signing Curtis Scott for that spot and gildart will start in reserves then come in round 4 for the other center spot depending on pre season

If Walker and Burns are off the market then I’d sign Scott. Not a lot of other options in the centres.

I would give Scott a crack on a one year deal.

If Lomax is definitely no go,a one year deal for Scott with a further one year club option plus an 8 month no alcohol condition each year!!
Booze is ruining him(like Elliot,who gets it)
In fact,thing "we'll all be rooned" if we dont do a bit better next year!

 

[JC99]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

Yet defended their way to a grand final win. Their absolutely battered Souths with their defence all night long and slowed the ruck down perfectly to suit them. Line speed was incredible too

Easy to have line speed when you are off-side most of the game.

The rules are there to take advantage of and they did it excellently. All the top teams do it, we were too dumb to figure it out

 

[mike]

So is munster getting the flick from Melbourne ??

I would suggest no, he's not.

Don’t be to confident of that … Bellamy and the Storm are not happy campers at present , someone will be shown the door I reckon.


Apparently Bellamy was livid a few years ago when Bromwich had a little snort of coke.
So he would be really pissed a Smith and Munster.

Its funny how people say madge is too intense and yells at his players, etc
But Bellamy does it more so

Only difference is WT culture

Difference is Bellamy has set up an elite system that gets the best out of almost every player that plays there

Madge gave us the worst defensive structures we've ever had

Madge set up an elite system also.... they just played in a GF

You think Maguire is responsible for this Souths team playing in the finals? Is he also responsible for Wigan's average Superleague season this year too?

In the 7 years after Madge left wigan won 3 premierships under his former assistant coach. Wigan have been hit by injury this year, still played finals.

At south's read the link below about the GF 17 and see how often madges name is specifically mentioned.

Madge bought into the team:
Alex Johnson
Dane Gagai
Campbell Graham
Cody Walker
Adam Reynolds
Damien Cook
Cam Murray
Tom Burgess

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/09/28/1-17-souths-signings-the-gambles-bargains-and-local-lads-in-rabbitohs-rise/

The sad truth of Maguire's time here is that: players want to leave, players don't want to come and players don't buy into his coaching. His past success is something he'll always have but that has little relevance to Wests Tigers.

I also can't believe that you're giving him credit for Wigan's current position, a club he coached a decade ago. I guess we should blame our current position on Sheens then.

The truth is we have a core group of younger players that have bought in including The Ute , AD, Laurie, Seyfarth, Maumolo, Blore, Tuilagi, Twal,. What we are missing experienced leaders and an x factor, something I hope the new football committee is working on.

I was responding that Madge has set up successful systems at Wigan and Souths which has seen success even after he has left.

He's our coach - best to get on board and find the positives.

Exactly mate, I was ready for us to move on from Madge but the decision was made to keep him. Our only chance of success for next season is with Madge in charge so I will support him getting the job done.

I have to accept that Madge is our coach of choice(!!) next year...and I have to support him..but Id be astonished if he can "get the job done".next year or any other year at WTs
Unfortunately the evidence(last 3 years results/Tigertown (which explains the underlying drivers)gives me little cause for any optimism,for which i apologise.
Think it will be another lost year of "building towards the future"..like the past 10!
As a former WTs captain says..it is what it is!
..cough..or was that a dry reach?

While I do tend to agree, I try to be positive in life when I can be lol

Yep..but gotta match it with realism and pragmatism!!
Glass is always half something or other...!

It sounds stupid, but I honestly have a few mental health issues and if I don't find a way to keep positive about things, even the Wests Tigers, I slide into a bad head space that is best to avoid.

Not stupid at all mate.
I think that's where this forum and sport in general is great in providing a community and supporting each other.

Its been a tough year on the field and in real life but I can always find a post on here that makes me laugh or a posotive comment that gives me hope.

And if nothing else - I just think back to the whole Leichhardt crowd signing **'Clearys a w#@nker!'** And will always make me proud to be a WT supporter ?
????

Best moment of the season, daylight second.

 

[Telltails]

The stocks of Penrith defensive coach Cameron Ciraldo continue to rise. The Panthers have clearly been the best defensive side over the past two seasons. He can now sit back and wait for the right head coaching offer, which most rookie coaches don't usually get the chance to do.

They missed 59 tackles last night

Yet defended their way to a grand final win. Their absolutely battered Souths with their defence all night long and slowed the ruck down perfectly to suit them. Line speed was incredible too

Easy to have line speed when you are off-side most of the game.

The rules are there to take advantage of and they did it excellently. All the top teams do it, we were too dumb to figure it out

Dumb or lazy with no desire. Line speed is only achieved when players have the will to go there in a group. Some one has to lead - no leaders no direction no team work no results