Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499246) said:
Letting go of Mikaele and Talau now would be dumb. It would just further solidify us as the feeder club for other NRL teams, We should reap the rewards of their development instead of letting them go once they've started to show something

Mikaele is working really hard - I hope he stays....
Can't see it happening though
 
@blackwhitegold said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499083) said:
Suggestion for suggestions sake ... Brooks to Dogs, Flanagan to Knights, Klemmer to Cows, Drinkwater to Tigers. Spine of Laurie - Drinkwater - Hastings - Hodgson 🙂

Insert - Heart attack Here...
 
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499246) said:
Letting go of Mikaele and Talau now would be dumb.

If we let TT go after refusing earlier to land JAC I will go postal!

JAC Should have been that first player that would have helped unlock future recruits.
 
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499236) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Graduating Ignatius Park fullback Cathane Hill has secured a development contract with the Wests Tigers, setting him on a path towards realising his NRL dream.

The teenage sensation has capitalised on a brilliant Aaron Payne Cup campaign, one in which he cemented himself as a key leader within the boys in blue’s ranks.

And his high school coach Steve Lansley believes his ascent up the rugby league food chain could happen in quick time.

“I think he can rise through the ranks quickly. I see the attributes in Cathane that are vital to being successful in the NRL,” Lansley said.

“He’s got a great aerobic capacity, as a fullback he can get around the park everywhere and fatigue won’t be a problem for him.

“I think the speed of the NRL won’t bother Cathane, he’ll handle the speed of that and as he matures I think he will be ready made for the NRL.”

Hill will link up with fellow Burdekin Roosters product Dudley Dotoi in Tigers’ colours, with the young Kirwan Bears centre also securing a chance to impress the NRL outfit.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-league/family-sacrifices-inspire-ignatius-park-gun-jakeb-vailalo-to-shot-with-nrl-champions-the-penrith-panthers/news-story/cb0ace0af45093090a36c9bd6c0ba43b

interesting. if the article is correct and he's on a development deal, then that could mean we will have potentially two fullbacks in the development squad, Dillon being the other.

It would be highly doubtful that this kid would get a development contract for next season, surely. Dotoi, an aussie schoolboy doesn't have one. Herman an elite player at an elite school in Keebra doesn't have one. Players like Dillon and Scolari have spent a couple of years at Flegg level as standouts and to date haven't received a dev contract.

If some random kid (with due respect - without junior rep honours, fanfare) goes straight from high school to development squad then either he's the next superstar of the game and everyone else has missed him, or our recruitment is a shambles. Most kids aren't ready for nrl straight out of school.

I imagine he may be on a flegg contract for 2022 and maybe a dev contract in later years, like Cini was.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499254) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499236) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Graduating Ignatius Park fullback Cathane Hill has secured a development contract with the Wests Tigers, setting him on a path towards realising his NRL dream.

The teenage sensation has capitalised on a brilliant Aaron Payne Cup campaign, one in which he cemented himself as a key leader within the boys in blue’s ranks.

And his high school coach Steve Lansley believes his ascent up the rugby league food chain could happen in quick time.

“I think he can rise through the ranks quickly. I see the attributes in Cathane that are vital to being successful in the NRL,” Lansley said.

“He’s got a great aerobic capacity, as a fullback he can get around the park everywhere and fatigue won’t be a problem for him.

“I think the speed of the NRL won’t bother Cathane, he’ll handle the speed of that and as he matures I think he will be ready made for the NRL.”

Hill will link up with fellow Burdekin Roosters product Dudley Dotoi in Tigers’ colours, with the young Kirwan Bears centre also securing a chance to impress the NRL outfit.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-league/family-sacrifices-inspire-ignatius-park-gun-jakeb-vailalo-to-shot-with-nrl-champions-the-penrith-panthers/news-story/cb0ace0af45093090a36c9bd6c0ba43b

interesting. if the article is correct and he's on a development deal, then that could mean we will have potentially two fullbacks in the development squad, Dillon being the other.

It would be highly doubtful that this kid would get a development contract for next season, surely. Dotoi, an aussie schoolboy doesn't have one. Herman an elite player at an elite school in Keebra doesn't have one. Players like Dillon and Scolari have spent a couple of years at Flegg level as standouts and to date haven't received a dev contract.

If some random kid (with due respect - without junior rep honours, fanfare) goes straight from high school to development squad then either he's the next superstar of the game and everyone else has missed him, or our recruitment is a shambles. Most kids aren't ready for nrl straight out of school.

I imagine he may be on a flegg contract for 2022 and maybe a dev contract in later years, like Cini was.

I'd be surprised too to be fair. just see the words development contract and obviously think that's what's happened. we'll probably know who's on development deals by the end of next week as the boys start pre-season.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Cathane Hill

Reminds me a little of Brett Stewart...
![0a4ba66c-3580-4364-a682-6d1f587d934f-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635468495596-0a4ba66c-3580-4364-a682-6d1f587d934f-image.png)
 
Interestingly he's also played on the wing outside Dotoi. A few of his team mates ended up in aussie schoolboys but he got pipped by another local, Wavik.

![2f35a152-b73e-4e24-81e6-ac8841af716b-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1635468709829-2f35a152-b73e-4e24-81e6-ac8841af716b-image.png)

Highlights of the game (Hill not seen, try to Dotoi) :

https://youtu.be/zEmxl2TJ3mY
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499254) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499236) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Graduating Ignatius Park fullback Cathane Hill has secured a development contract with the Wests Tigers, setting him on a path towards realising his NRL dream.

The teenage sensation has capitalised on a brilliant Aaron Payne Cup campaign, one in which he cemented himself as a key leader within the boys in blue’s ranks.

And his high school coach Steve Lansley believes his ascent up the rugby league food chain could happen in quick time.

“I think he can rise through the ranks quickly. I see the attributes in Cathane that are vital to being successful in the NRL,” Lansley said.

“He’s got a great aerobic capacity, as a fullback he can get around the park everywhere and fatigue won’t be a problem for him.

“I think the speed of the NRL won’t bother Cathane, he’ll handle the speed of that and as he matures I think he will be ready made for the NRL.”

Hill will link up with fellow Burdekin Roosters product Dudley Dotoi in Tigers’ colours, with the young Kirwan Bears centre also securing a chance to impress the NRL outfit.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-league/family-sacrifices-inspire-ignatius-park-gun-jakeb-vailalo-to-shot-with-nrl-champions-the-penrith-panthers/news-story/cb0ace0af45093090a36c9bd6c0ba43b

interesting. if the article is correct and he's on a development deal, then that could mean we will have potentially two fullbacks in the development squad, Dillon being the other.

It would be highly doubtful that this kid would get a development contract for next season, surely. Dotoi, an aussie schoolboy doesn't have one. Herman an elite player at an elite school in Keebra doesn't have one. Players like Dillon and Scolari have spent a couple of years at Flegg level as standouts and to date haven't received a dev contract.

If some random kid (with due respect - without junior rep honours, fanfare) goes straight from high school to development squad then either he's the next superstar of the game and everyone else has missed him, or our recruitment is a shambles. Most kids aren't ready for nrl straight out of school.

I imagine he may be on a flegg contract for 2022 and maybe a dev contract in later years, like Cini was.

He may be that highly rated we have had to use it as our Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon card to get him. He is a fantastic signing for the club and maintains the high standard of youth signings.
 
No team lists but looks like he was fullback in this Year 10 game as part of the cowboys challenge final

Looked to be one of the best from the highlights. Nice step for first try and helped create both other try scoring opportunities for Iggy

https://youtu.be/1KgpQAP6UOs
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499260) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499254) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499236) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Graduating Ignatius Park fullback Cathane Hill has secured a development contract with the Wests Tigers, setting him on a path towards realising his NRL dream.

The teenage sensation has capitalised on a brilliant Aaron Payne Cup campaign, one in which he cemented himself as a key leader within the boys in blue’s ranks.

And his high school coach Steve Lansley believes his ascent up the rugby league food chain could happen in quick time.

“I think he can rise through the ranks quickly. I see the attributes in Cathane that are vital to being successful in the NRL,” Lansley said.

“He’s got a great aerobic capacity, as a fullback he can get around the park everywhere and fatigue won’t be a problem for him.

“I think the speed of the NRL won’t bother Cathane, he’ll handle the speed of that and as he matures I think he will be ready made for the NRL.”

Hill will link up with fellow Burdekin Roosters product Dudley Dotoi in Tigers’ colours, with the young Kirwan Bears centre also securing a chance to impress the NRL outfit.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-league/family-sacrifices-inspire-ignatius-park-gun-jakeb-vailalo-to-shot-with-nrl-champions-the-penrith-panthers/news-story/cb0ace0af45093090a36c9bd6c0ba43b

interesting. if the article is correct and he's on a development deal, then that could mean we will have potentially two fullbacks in the development squad, Dillon being the other.

It would be highly doubtful that this kid would get a development contract for next season, surely. Dotoi, an aussie schoolboy doesn't have one. Herman an elite player at an elite school in Keebra doesn't have one. Players like Dillon and Scolari have spent a couple of years at Flegg level as standouts and to date haven't received a dev contract.

If some random kid (with due respect - without junior rep honours, fanfare) goes straight from high school to development squad then either he's the next superstar of the game and everyone else has missed him, or our recruitment is a shambles. Most kids aren't ready for nrl straight out of school.

I imagine he may be on a flegg contract for 2022 and maybe a dev contract in later years, like Cini was.

He may be that highly rated we have had to use it as our Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon card to get him. He is a fantastic signing for the club and maintains the high standard of youth signings.

If he's so highly rated though how would the Cows let him go?

Funny he labelled himself the next Ponga in a highlights video he once published. Confidence... The vid was subsequently taken down, probably due to music copyright.
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499264) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499260) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499254) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499236) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499235) said:
Graduating Ignatius Park fullback Cathane Hill has secured a development contract with the Wests Tigers, setting him on a path towards realising his NRL dream.

The teenage sensation has capitalised on a brilliant Aaron Payne Cup campaign, one in which he cemented himself as a key leader within the boys in blue’s ranks.

And his high school coach Steve Lansley believes his ascent up the rugby league food chain could happen in quick time.

“I think he can rise through the ranks quickly. I see the attributes in Cathane that are vital to being successful in the NRL,” Lansley said.

“He’s got a great aerobic capacity, as a fullback he can get around the park everywhere and fatigue won’t be a problem for him.

“I think the speed of the NRL won’t bother Cathane, he’ll handle the speed of that and as he matures I think he will be ready made for the NRL.”

Hill will link up with fellow Burdekin Roosters product Dudley Dotoi in Tigers’ colours, with the young Kirwan Bears centre also securing a chance to impress the NRL outfit.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/sport/local-league/family-sacrifices-inspire-ignatius-park-gun-jakeb-vailalo-to-shot-with-nrl-champions-the-penrith-panthers/news-story/cb0ace0af45093090a36c9bd6c0ba43b

interesting. if the article is correct and he's on a development deal, then that could mean we will have potentially two fullbacks in the development squad, Dillon being the other.

It would be highly doubtful that this kid would get a development contract for next season, surely. Dotoi, an aussie schoolboy doesn't have one. Herman an elite player at an elite school in Keebra doesn't have one. Players like Dillon and Scolari have spent a couple of years at Flegg level as standouts and to date haven't received a dev contract.

If some random kid (with due respect - without junior rep honours, fanfare) goes straight from high school to development squad then either he's the next superstar of the game and everyone else has missed him, or our recruitment is a shambles. Most kids aren't ready for nrl straight out of school.

I imagine he may be on a flegg contract for 2022 and maybe a dev contract in later years, like Cini was.

He may be that highly rated we have had to use it as our Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon card to get him. He is a fantastic signing for the club and maintains the high standard of youth signings.

If he's so highly rated though how would the Cows let him go?

Funny he labelled himself the next Ponga in a highlights video he once published. Confidence... The vid was subsequently taken down, probably due to music copyright.

They have the Aust Schools fullback from the same side. The young man probably believed his chances were better elsewhere and has backed himself. If so, I am pleased he has chosen the WTs. Lots of good young players being assembled. The time is right for Sheens to step in and provide his guidance.
 
@spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499250) said:
@lukic said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1498629) said:
Simpkin’s just turned 20 and had 2 years of development disrupted by covid. He was doing well in reserves last year. Struggled in first grade sure, but wasn’t ridiculously out of his depth

Good Post

I see some great potential in Simpkin and also Madden.

Both have tons of upside and are very young and in Key positions.

Agree on Simpkin.

Strongly disagree on Madden. Yes young, hasn't had a real go etc - but I see zero potential in him.

Again, Madden's 'talent' is made up/exaggerated because everyone wants Brooks gone - at any cost.
 
'Development deal' could mean be spends a year or two in Flegg and Cup THEN becomes an actual development player. Penrith do that with a lot of their rookies
 
It looks like there's light at the end of the (very long) tunnel. Once we do turn the corner, we should be great for a number of years, with all these younger signings. I would still love a bit more success in the short term though. Just an 8th placed finish, resulting in one and done, that's all.....tide us over for another few years!
 
@tiger_scott said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499283) said:
It looks like there's light at the end of the (very long) tunnel. Once we do turn the corner, we should be great for a number of years, with all these younger signings. I would still love a bit more success in the short term though. Just an 8th placed finish, resulting in one and done, that's all.....tide us over for another few years!

Problem is if we aren't successful they aren't gonna hang around. If they're a young talent and getting offered to go to a better club their manager and family will always push them to do it

I like that we are investing in juniors but if we don't sign some good players and start winning games it could easily be all for nothing.
 
@tonytiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499197) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499084) said:
@roar_power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499080) said:
@jrtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499067) said:
@pablox said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499062) said:
Looks like we have these players off contract at the end of 2022 (according to zero tackle), ie available to sign elsewhere on Nov 1

Luke Garner, Asu Kepaoa, Luciano Leilua, Jock Madden, Thomas Mikaele, James Roberts, Tommy Talau, James Tamou, Kelma Tuilagi, Alex Twal

Surely the club will extend someone before it's open slather?

Kepaoa is incorrect, believe he's until the end of 2023. apart from that

Garner - most likely off to Manly
Luch - should sign off on his upgrade soon
Madden - jury's out
Mikaele - probably headed to Redcliffe
Roberts - T&T
Talau - off an ACL, wait and see
Tamou - bye bye
Tuilagi - re-sign
Twal - re-sign

Good post.

Twal is solid. Tuilagi has good potential. Resign both.

I think Kepaoa will be a starting centre by the end of 2022.

Luch for the right price. I haven't seen anything in Madden to suggest he has the X-factor we desperately need in the halves.

Don't really care too much for the rest.

Kepaoa can play. very hopeful we see him starting in the centres come Round 1.

I like Kepaoa but his Achilles heel is catching a ball

That is true, so playing him in the centres makes sense, as opposed to a winger with high balls coming at him.....although dropping passes as a centre.........
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499285) said:
@tiger_scott said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1499283) said:
It looks like there's light at the end of the (very long) tunnel. Once we do turn the corner, we should be great for a number of years, with all these younger signings. I would still love a bit more success in the short term though. Just an 8th placed finish, resulting in one and done, that's all.....tide us over for another few years!

Problem is if we aren't successful they aren't gonna hang around. If they're a young talent and getting offered to go to a better club their manager and family will always push them to do it

I like that we are investing in juniors but if we don't sign some good players and start winning games it could easily be all for nothing.

More chance of holding them if come through our juniors
 

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