Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503343) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503340) said:
PLAYER CONTRACT
Shawn Blore 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2022 2023
Adam Doueihi 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2022
Oliver Gildart 2022 2023
Jackson Hastings 2022 2023
Reece Hoffman 2022
William Kei 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2022 2023
Luciano Leilua 2022
Jacob Liddle 2022 2023
Jock Madden 2022
Ken Maumalo 2022 2023
Thomas Mikaele 2022
Zane Musgrove 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2022 2023
Tyrone Peachey 2022 2023
Alex Seyfarth 2022 2023
Jake Simpkin 2022 2023 2024
Tuki Simpkins 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2022
James Tamou 2022
Kelma Tuilagi 2022
Alex Twal 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2022 2023
Henry O'Kane (Development) 2022
Apisalome Saukuru (Development) 2022 2023
Brandon Tumeth (Development) 2022

The year is 2025 and nofoaluma is still our winger, oh no

Such a disgusting contract. Absolutely outrageous.
 
Left field option:
If we let brooks go what is everyones thoughts about Gareth Widdop on a 1 year deal? He can play until AD is back and offers great depth and leadership...
 
@tsupps05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503361) said:
Left field option:
If we let brooks go what is everyones thoughts about Gareth Widdop on a 1 year deal? He can play until AD is back and offers great depth and leadership...


Pass
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503357) said:
We’ve never had the cleanout we needed…

Just as a matter of interest, what do you mean by a "cleanout"? Because you know teams have to have a full roster, right? You obviously don't rate lots of the current roster, and it's hard to blame you, but we're not going to fix it by starting the season with half a dozen players on our books.
 
So not one single player from our unbeaten Flegg team. That cannot be correct for a so called development club. Have I missed something ?
 
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503365) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503357) said:
We’ve never had the cleanout we needed…

Just as a matter of interest, what do you mean by a "cleanout"? Because you know teams have to have a full roster, right? You obviously don't rate lots of the current roster, and it's hard to blame you, but we're not going to fix it by starting the season with half a dozen players on our books.

Understood, It's something we should have done when we lost most our key players in 2017.
What I mean is - Stop signing the players that they think are going to get us just over the line (From 9th to 8th) and start building them.
Stop signing gap stops like Mbye and Reynolds... We should have offered stupid money to Maloney even post Panthers
Sign some leadership, Some blokes who'll fight to the death and real toilers.
Stop overpaying to keep unproven junior talent (Like Suli) It's not hard to remember we paid 450k a year to Brooks & Moses in 2014 - Before they'd even played grade really....
Part of the reason we couldn't surround them with quality. Overpaying for Woods, Simona and the like...
For what - Our jnr pathways has seemed non existent since those days anyway.
We have more than enough skilled kids to pick from - We need some CHARACTER & LEADERSHIP
We've not had any since the last of the Pre Merger guys finished up... Blokes like Senter, Skando and Galea would drag these blokes into line.

I'd almost throw some money at a type like or Wade Graham, Best footy is well behind him... Good Footy Head, Would be good around Halves, Back Row and Centre.
Luke Lewis would have been perfect.... That type of footballer.

We are so far from winning the comp it's not funny - At some point, We need to admit that...

Stop trying to win the comp next year - And start trying to win it in 5-10 years.
 
Just saw a headline for a Joey Leulua story - cant be bothered to read it but it actually made me laugh - made my day " NRL reject still completely clueless" ...... lol![jl.png](/assets/uploads/files/1636346779254-jl.png)
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503370) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503365) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503357) said:
We’ve never had the cleanout we needed…

Just as a matter of interest, what do you mean by a "cleanout"? Because you know teams have to have a full roster, right? You obviously don't rate lots of the current roster, and it's hard to blame you, but we're not going to fix it by starting the season with half a dozen players on our books.

Understood, It's something we should have done when we lost most our key players in 2017.
What I mean is - Stop signing the players that they think are going to get us just over the line (From 9th to 8th) and start building them.
Stop signing gap stops like Mbye and Reynolds... We should have offered stupid money to Maloney even post Panthers
Sign some leadership, Some blokes who'll fight to the death and real toilers.
Stop overpaying to keep unproven junior talent (Like Suli) It's not hard to remember we paid 450k a year to Brooks & Moses in 2014 - Before they'd even played grade really....
Part of the reason we couldn't surround them with quality. Overpaying for Woods, Simona and the like...
For what - Our jnr pathways has seemed non existent since those days anyway.
We have more than enough skilled kids to pick from - We need some CHARACTER & LEADERSHIP
We've not had any since the last of the Pre Merger guys finished up... Blokes like Senter, Skando and Galea would drag these blokes into line.

I'd almost throw some money at a type like or Wade Graham, Best footy is well behind him... Good Footy Head, Would be good around Halves, Back Row and Centre.
Luke Lewis would have been perfect.... That type of footballer.

We are so far from winning the comp it's not funny - At some point, We need to admit that...

Stop trying to win the comp next year - And start trying to win it in 5-10 years.

To be fair, Simona would of been an absolute gun player, was one of the only shining lights at the time until his appalling actions.
 
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503371) said:
Just saw a headline for a Joey Leulua story - cant be bothered to read it but it actually made me laugh - made my day " NRL reject still completely clueless" ...... lol

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/plenty-going-wrong-at-that-club-tigers-discard-bj-leilua-takes-aim-at-coach-michael-maguire/news-story/5919f5c3c36e362a5d0fa7ca1488992e
 
Get rid of McLuciano too. Clearly they both think they’re way better than they actually are and are a culture killer too. Whingers!
 
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503360) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503343) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503340) said:
PLAYER CONTRACT
Shawn Blore 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2022 2023
Adam Doueihi 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2022
Oliver Gildart 2022 2023
Jackson Hastings 2022 2023
Reece Hoffman 2022
William Kei 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2022 2023
Luciano Leilua 2022
Jacob Liddle 2022 2023
Jock Madden 2022
Ken Maumalo 2022 2023
Thomas Mikaele 2022
Zane Musgrove 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2022 2023
Tyrone Peachey 2022 2023
Alex Seyfarth 2022 2023
Jake Simpkin 2022 2023 2024
Tuki Simpkins 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2022
James Tamou 2022
Kelma Tuilagi 2022
Alex Twal 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2022 2023
Henry O'Kane (Development) 2022
Apisalome Saukuru (Development) 2022 2023
Brandon Tumeth (Development) 2022

The year is 2025 and nofoaluma is still our winger, oh no

Such a disgusting contract. Absolutely outrageous.

What's happening with James Roberts he is not on the list
 
@mactiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503375) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503360) said:
@sparci said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503343) said:
@tigerwest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503340) said:
PLAYER CONTRACT
Shawn Blore 2022 2023
Luke Brooks 2022 2023
Adam Doueihi 2022 2023
Luke Garner 2022
Oliver Gildart 2022 2023
Jackson Hastings 2022 2023
Reece Hoffman 2022
William Kei 2022
Asu Kepaoa 2022 2023
Daine Laurie 2022 2023
Luciano Leilua 2022
Jacob Liddle 2022 2023
Jock Madden 2022
Ken Maumalo 2022 2023
Thomas Mikaele 2022
Zane Musgrove 2022 2023 2024
David Nofoaluma 2022 2023 2024 2025
Joe Ofahengaue 2022 2023
Tyrone Peachey 2022 2023
Alex Seyfarth 2022 2023
Jake Simpkin 2022 2023 2024
Tuki Simpkins 2022 2023
Tommy Talau 2022
James Tamou 2022
Kelma Tuilagi 2022
Alex Twal 2022
Stefano Utoikamanu 2022 2023
Henry O'Kane (Development) 2022
Apisalome Saukuru (Development) 2022 2023
Brandon Tumeth (Development) 2022

The year is 2025 and nofoaluma is still our winger, oh no

Such a disgusting contract. Absolutely outrageous.

What's happening with James Roberts he is not on the list

He’s on a train-and-trial deal, not in the Top 30 at the moment.
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503373) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503371) said:
Just saw a headline for a Joey Leulua story - cant be bothered to read it but it actually made me laugh - made my day " NRL reject still completely clueless" ...... lol

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/plenty-going-wrong-at-that-club-tigers-discard-bj-leilua-takes-aim-at-coach-michael-maguire/news-story/5919f5c3c36e362a5d0fa7ca1488992e

Came from a club where everyone spoke up - So he spoke up at the Tigers and got punted for it....
He forgets Ricky told him he wasn't good enough for the Raiders also... (Another team that didn't play finals this year)
He's not good enough - and looking for someone to blame...

Maybe now he'll own it. Thing is - He's not a media Favourite, He's not a commentators favourite, He's not a crowd favourite, and he's a pig to the fans... He's been moved on from 4/16 Clubs, And 5-6 Different coaches.

Joey ole mate ole pal... It's not us - It's you, It's always you!!
 
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503373) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503371) said:
Just saw a headline for a Joey Leulua story - cant be bothered to read it but it actually made me laugh - made my day " NRL reject still completely clueless" ...... lol

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/plenty-going-wrong-at-that-club-tigers-discard-bj-leilua-takes-aim-at-coach-michael-maguire/news-story/5919f5c3c36e362a5d0fa7ca1488992e

Wow, that is actually pathetic from BJ. He has no self awareness. He is actually committing career suicide whilst pleading for another go. Ironically he praises the way things were dont under Sticky....who also got rid of him.

Have to be honest, it worries me about the potential that he is right about the atmosphere/culture within the team/club. The flip side of that is that the club is getting rid of blokes that dont want to be part of it.
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503377) said:
@thedaboss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503373) said:
@dazza65 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503371) said:
Just saw a headline for a Joey Leulua story - cant be bothered to read it but it actually made me laugh - made my day " NRL reject still completely clueless" ...... lol

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/plenty-going-wrong-at-that-club-tigers-discard-bj-leilua-takes-aim-at-coach-michael-maguire/news-story/5919f5c3c36e362a5d0fa7ca1488992e

Came from a club where everyone spoke up - So he spoke up at the Tigers and got punted for it....
He forgets Ricky told him he wasn't good enough for the Raiders also... (Another team that didn't play finals this year)
He's not good enough - and looking for someone to blame...

Maybe now he'll own it. Thing is - He's not a media Favourite, He's not a commentators favourite, He's not a crowd favourite, and he's a pig to the fans... He's been moved on from 4/16 Clubs, And 5-6 Different coaches.

Joey ole mate ole pal... It's not us - It's you, It's always you!!

I put him up there with Anasta, Ballin and Packer as the club’s worst ever signings. Did two fifths of bugger all on the field and clearly was just as bigger nuisance off it. The fact we still have his brothers big ego around (im sure he’s asked for 700 Big Macs not thousands) annoys me too.
 
@champ said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503333) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503316) said:
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503278) said:
@camel2281 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502996) said:
@newtown said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502989) said:
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502982) said:
@tiger-ferret said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502976) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502960) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502959) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502954) said:
@leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502950) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502945) said:
@leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502942) said:
@tigertime-0 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1502888) said:
Andrew Johns and Mitchell Pearce share the same manager !! Join the dots !!!!

The dots are clear and connected, Sheen's statement was an attempt to save face.

I'm not against us allowing Luke moving over to the Knights, but we need to get compensation.

Either they take on Luke's full contract or we do a dollar for dollar contract swap -

Daniel Safiti or Bradman Best + a young gun.

I like Bailey Hodgson. He's Josh's nephew, only 19 but from what I've seen he's a smart fullback that can easily shift into centre or wing if needed.

We're not getting Saifiti or Best in exchange for Brooks.

Then we need the Knights to take on his full contract

If he requests a release on compassionate grounds we won't have to pay a cent

Why would he want a compassionate release?

If he wants to move up to Newcastle because he wants a move out of Sydney and a fresh start. He wouldn't be the first player to move because they want a change of scenery and a fresh start after struggling at their old club for a while

If he did that he'd probably have to take a pay cut so not sure if he would go down that route or if he'll leave at all. Plenty of off season left to figure it out, Knights are certainly trying to get him over there

I honestly think that’s scrapping the bottom of the barrel as a reason. If we were overflowing with halfbacks then whatever.

I hope the tigers show some backbone. As poor as some people think brooks is, he is in demand and we need quality players ASAP. Having John’s comment weakens Newcastles bargaining position in my opinion

He’s not in demand 1 club may be interested in him.

Well then not you think that club (Newcastle) is desperate to sign a Wests Tigers a halfback that has been unfairly vilified by so many Wests Tigers supporters.

How has he been unfairly vilified? He's the halfback, highest paid player and told all and sundry that it was 'HIS' team and he had the keys. He then produced extremely poor performance levels

He still has two years left on his contract. He has not produced extremely poor performances. The fact that Newcastle are trying so hard is a sure sign that he has something to offer. With a new and very experienced half by his side at Wests tigers you will see what he is really capable of. By the way, to whom did he declare that it was his team.

The media - in multiple TV interviews

Oh ok, just cause the media says it its right. Lets check their credibility. Hooper & Buzz both wrote articles saying Maguire was sacked. Then got dirty when they got caught out talking BS & tried to spin it that the Tigers changed their mind. Clearly not credible & uninformed. Reed was adamant that Brooks was going to Canberra. More BS. Fox sports have had run multiple articles saying Brooks was going to Newcastle( among other clubs) . Funny , Fox sports running article today saying supposedly "in a twist" Brooks now staying at Tigers. They dont even believe their own Cr#p cause if you notice no one takes responsibility for the articles ... they list as the writers Fox staff writers. . I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion but seriously , we (this forum) need to stop giving these media clowns oxygen. Why do we even concern ourselves with the rubbish they vomit? Why would you want join the circus & become a clown with them by repeating the crap ? The dump they take every morning has more substance then what comes out their mouth when reporting on the Tigers.

Huh? I said Brooks said in multiple TV interviews that it was HIS team. That's got nothing to do with print media saying reportedly etc. Unless there were multiple deep fake videos this pre season then I saw the words come out of Luke Brooks' mouth
 
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503370) said:
@2041 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503365) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503357) said:
We’ve never had the cleanout we needed…

Just as a matter of interest, what do you mean by a "cleanout"? Because you know teams have to have a full roster, right? You obviously don't rate lots of the current roster, and it's hard to blame you, but we're not going to fix it by starting the season with half a dozen players on our books.

Understood, It's something we should have done when we lost most our key players in 2017.
What I mean is - Stop signing the players that they think are going to get us just over the line (From 9th to 8th) and start building them.
Stop signing gap stops like Mbye and Reynolds... We should have offered stupid money to Maloney even post Panthers
Sign some leadership, Some blokes who'll fight to the death and real toilers.
Stop overpaying to keep unproven junior talent (Like Suli) It's not hard to remember we paid 450k a year to Brooks & Moses in 2014 - Before they'd even played grade really....
Part of the reason we couldn't surround them with quality. Overpaying for Woods, Simona and the like...
For what - Our jnr pathways has seemed non existent since those days anyway.
We have more than enough skilled kids to pick from - We need some CHARACTER & LEADERSHIP
We've not had any since the last of the Pre Merger guys finished up... Blokes like Senter, Skando and Galea would drag these blokes into line.

I'd almost throw some money at a type like or Wade Graham, Best footy is well behind him... Good Footy Head, Would be good around Halves, Back Row and Centre.
Luke Lewis would have been perfect.... That type of footballer.

We are so far from winning the comp it's not funny - At some point, We need to admit that...

Stop trying to win the comp next year - And start trying to win it in 5-10 years.

The thing is, you're asking for several different things all at the same time. You don't want "stop gaps" or short term solutions, but you want to throw money at Wade Graham. You don't want to overpay unproven youth, but you want the club to build from within.

Sorry, I don't mean to have a crack because I totally agree that the club needs a long-term plan. The problem as I see it, though, is actually rather more simple: they have been crap at identifying talent for years. There isn't a single recipe for success other than recognising when a player is going to contribute.

How do clubs like Melbourne manage to keep their Cameron Munsters where we lose our James Tedescos? Why was Luke Lewis a brilliant veteran signing for the Sharks when James Tamou has been a crap one for us? Why did we give Nofoaluma a four-year deal at the absolute peak of his cost when the Raiders have lost Dugan, Ferguson, Milford, Cotric and more yet managed to find cheap replacements? I honestly think it comes down to identifying and properly valuing talent more than anything.

What I'm saying is there isn't a sweeping one-size-fits-all solution. We should be doing all of building from our own juniors, looking to poach talent from elsewhere, finding undervalued players on the open market and making marquee free agent signings. We just have to stop being useless at valuing all of them.
 
@razor7 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1503366) said:
So not one single player from our unbeaten Flegg team. That cannot be correct for a so called development club. Have I missed something ?

Flegg players have been added to the Train and Trial/NSW Cup players.
 

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