Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[rihannafan1]

We get rid of Hartigan and we start making moves.

What a surprise.

Can't believe that Hartigan was heralded as the Messiah when he came here from the Chooks, now he's just regarded as chicken shit.

Personally, I don't know what to believe but his reputation on this forum has certainly taken a nose dive since he has left the building.

His fans bailed during Kul's mod "kulling"

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Well hartigan did go on their podcast.

haha but tbf they know the bloke so it makes sense they have an opinion of him

 

[crazycat]

What rubbish , sheens won’t let brooks go fullstop

A number of people on here knock Brooks, but I had a look at the video showing the 'top tries' Wests put on last year and Brooks featured in many of these tries. His try assist stats from last year were decent. There is room for improvement in his game, particularly with last tackle options, but I personally hope we keep him. Letting him go without getting a player of equal value is just plain dumb.

Agreed. But what is his value really?

A bit.
His value is a good running game. Good handoff, can get over the line and can definately play.

His defense has improved but whole team needs to upgrade.

His value is not his weakness. His weakness is he does not think like a Half, does not organise or marshall the team, does not boss people around.
Move him or Fire him. Brooks nor Benji was ever a halfback.

You could sum up Wests Tigers very easily:
Still looking for a Halfback after Scott Prince left!

 

[weststigerman]

What rubbish , sheens won’t let brooks go fullstop

A number of people on here knock Brooks, but I had a look at the video showing the 'top tries' Wests put on last year and Brooks featured in many of these tries. His try assist stats from last year were decent. There is room for improvement in his game, particularly with last tackle options, but I personally hope we keep him. Letting him go without getting a player of equal value is just plain dumb.

Agreed. But what is his value really?

A bit.
His value is a good running game. Good handoff, can get over the line and can definately play.

His defense has improved but whole team needs to upgrade.

His value is not his weakness. His weakness is he does not think like a Half, does not organise or marshall the team, does not boss people around.
Move him or Fire him. Brooks nor Benji was ever a halfback.

You could sum up Wests Tigers very easily:
Still looking for a Halfback after Scott Prince left!

The interesting perspective on this is that when Scott Prince was here, a big chunk of the forum thought he should be moved to 5/8 because he wasn't a natural halfback. I remember people wanted a player by the name of Kieran Kerr to play 7. The year we won the comp this talk died down.

The whole "X is not a halfback" argument has happened ever since I can remember.

Brooks is a halfback, the question is, is he good enough?

 

[tiger_scott]

I think he is. I also think that Hastings will direct the team, taking that pressure off of Brooks and he'll get back to his best. I also like that Peachey can ball play a bit, giving us another point of attack. With Newcastle losing their hooker for the year and having no-one in their 7 shirt, we have just moved another spot closer to the 8. A few more things like this happening and we may find the Tigers on telly in September.

 

[earl]

Brooks is a halfback, the question is, is he good enough?

Agreed. I also don't think he needs to be an organizer whatever that means.

I have no problems with Brooks being in the halves (I don't care about the number on his back) but to me he has to be one of the best two options that we have. Our halves haven't been good enough. We have Hastings, Doueihi and Brooks as realistic options in the halves. I don't think Madden has shown enough ability to be considered a realistic option right now.

 

[Demps]

Brooks is a halfback, the question is, is he good enough?

Agreed. I also don't think he needs to be an organizer whatever that means.

I have no problems with Brooks being in the halves (I don't care about the number on his back) but to me he has to be one of the best two options that we have. Our halves haven't been good enough. We have Hastings, Doueihi and Brooks as realistic options in the halves. I don't think Madden has shown enough ability to be considered a realistic option right now.

Poor Madden.

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

 

[earl]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

 

[The Warrior]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

 

[Demps]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Peachy.

Easy.
?

 

[TheDaBoss]

Not signing related but i would like to see the nrl do the same try celebration initiative as last season...

 

[earl]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

If Doueihi and Hastings are good enough they will be our halves over Brooks. To me they both have to prove themselves though.

I can't see Maguire sticking with Brooks unless we are winning and Brooks is performing.

 

[Tigerwould]

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi is out. Brooks is a good defender.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Barry Toohey (Newcastle journo) tweeted that the Knights will be signing a halfback, then only liked the reply tweets that said Brooks

Barry Toohey has been agitating on the Kinghts behalf to get Brooks to Newi for 6 months.
He is the Knights defacto Media man.

he is what rothfield is to the Sharks
keep pushing Barry

 

[Odessa]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Do you think Doueihi has the motor to play lock if he slows down ?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Do you think Doueihi has the motor to play lock if he slows down ?

I’m not sure, he has the body though. I think it’s way too early to be making grand plans for him and making claims to where his future lies. He just needs to get back on the field and stay there first.

 

[Camel2281]

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi is out. Brooks is a good defender.

Brooks' defensive stats last year say otherwise. Most missed tackles of anyone at the club

 

[jirskyr]

We get rid of Hartigan and we start making moves.

What a surprise.

Can't believe that Hartigan was heralded as the Messiah when he came here from the Chooks, now he's just regarded as chicken shit.

Personally, I don't know what to believe but his reputation on this forum has certainly taken a nose dive since he has left the building.

His fans bailed during Kul's mod "kulling"

?

Well hartigan did go on their podcast.

haha but tbf they know the bloke so it makes sense they have an opinion of him

I've met Adam a few times, seemed a good knowledgeable guy. Whatever Hartigan's reputation is right now, it's almost certainly not accurate to the actual ability (or lack of) of the man himself. I have literally zero knowledge of what Adam Hartigan was doing behind the scenes, but he's no dummy that's for sure.

I think it's also a mistake to equate Hartigan's employment, and then not, as being some magic trigger for signings. Whilst I think the Summer time signings have been good, I wasn't in doubt that we'd see action over this period same as we have seen for several seasons now. Nobody knows for sure if Hartigan had something or anything to do with those signings, nor do we even know if some new person like Sheens got the chequebook out to make some recruitment happen.

And most crucially - we are yet to see if these decisions pan out. I've been hopeful for historical signings that turn out to be absolute custard. Hartigan was, after all, the guy overseeing the signatures of Doueihi, Stefano, Luciano, Laurie, Blore - our best up young players and likely the core of our future side.

I think it's far more complicated than people like to boil down into simply binaries of good/bad.

 

[TieDye]

We get rid of Hartigan and we start making moves.

What a surprise.

Can't believe that Hartigan was heralded as the Messiah when he came here from the Chooks, now he's just regarded as chicken shit.

Personally, I don't know what to believe but his reputation on this forum has certainly taken a nose dive since he has left the building.

His fans bailed during Kul's mod "kulling"

?

Well hartigan did go on their podcast.

haha but tbf they know the bloke so it makes sense they have an opinion of him

I've met Adam a few times, seemed a good knowledgeable guy. Whatever Hartigan's reputation is right now, it's almost certainly not accurate to the actual ability (or lack of) of the man himself. I have literally zero knowledge of what Adam Hartigan was doing behind the scenes, but he's no dummy that's for sure.

I think it's also a mistake to equate Hartigan's employment, and then not, as being some magic trigger for signings. Whilst I think the Summer time signings have been good, I wasn't in doubt that we'd see action over this period same as we have seen for several seasons now. Nobody knows for sure if Hartigan had something or anything to do with those signings, nor do we even know if some new person like Sheens got the chequebook out to make some recruitment happen.

And most crucially - we are yet to see if these decisions pan out. I've been hopeful for historical signings that turn out to be absolute custard. Hartigan was, after all, the guy overseeing the signatures of Doueihi, Stefano, Luciano, Laurie, Blore - our best up young players and likely the core of our future side.

I think it's far more complicated than people like to boil down into simply binaries of good/bad.

He was pretty trash, tbf. No evidence, besides him failing miserably at sealing the deal often.

 

[TieDye]

Might find himself as a life long God of State Cup.

The problem is when I've seen him he hasn't been that good in State Cup. If he kills it in State Cup then I think he is a good chance of killing it in first grade.

He might come good. I wouldn't write him off yet but to me he should kill it in State Cup prior to being considered a valid first grade option.

Get rid of Brooks. Hasting and Douhei are the future. If Douhei is out, replace him with a good defender.

Doueihi might not even have a future if he does his knee one more time.

Do you think Doueihi has the motor to play lock if he slows down ?

I’m not sure, he has the body though. I think it’s way too early to be making grand plans for him and making claims to where his future lies. He just needs to get back on the field and stay there first.

He’ll definitely fire once fit!