Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Fingers83]

Sounds a lot like just about everyone who has been in our top 30 since.

I think we are an unknown at best in 2024.

Rookie coach, entirely new halves pairing, 2nd year fullback, 18 year old back up hooker, 35 year old halfback, 21 year old 5/8. None of these guys have played any footy together.

Strap yourselves in for a wild ride. Think we will see plenty of rocks and diamonds, not too dissimilar to our coaches playing style.

 

[Kelce68]

Sorry, @2041 , I meant to hit reply, but it didn't go through. So a good, ol' tag it is...

You say that like the salary cap doesn't exist.
No, I'm not. I'm fully aware of the implications of paying a lot of money for a half. The current structure of our salary cap easily allows us to account for the numbers being spoken about and it is not that far from the going rate for halves in the competition.

if we signed Luai but were paying him, say, $6m a year I'm sure we'd all agree that would be a terrible idea - it would mean every single other player on the roster would have to be on minimum salary. If we signed Luai for $250,000 a year, by contrast, I'm sure even the biggest doubters would say that was a cracking bit of business.

Reductio Ad Absurdum. A textbook logical fallacy.

That is not the situation. Not even close to the situation. You've exaggerated the situation in an attempt to test logical consistency, but this argument is a fallacy because it removes context from the situation and is irrelevant to the outcome being discussed. Luai, if offered a contract, will be offered in the realms of $1.1- 1.4 million dollars a year, so that is the value that should be the for or against.

Here's an example of why: the Broncos signed Adam Reynolds for $800,000 a year. Is Luai $600,000 "better" than Adam Reynolds? I guess you could argue it. But I bet the Broncos were glad they had a bit of wiggle room when Reece Walsh became available a year later...

Unfortunately, it's not that simple due to any number of factors, not least of all; current market, need for position, allure of the club they're signing with, how well their team cap is balanced, etc.


... I get your point, and I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it's irrelevant for the most part. When I made the original post, the subtext for it was that we all generally understand he will come at a significant cost.

If the counter for that is that he will be far too expensive for what he'll bring then so be it; that's a legitimate retort. But it won't be $6 million per year, so let's not muddy up the discussion waters.

 

[Spartan117]

I think we are an unknown at best in 2024.

Rookie coach, entirely new halves pairing, 2nd year fullback, 18 year old back up hooker, 35 year old halfback, 21 year old 5/8. None of these guys have played any footy together.

Strap yourselves in for a wild ride. Think we will see plenty of rocks and diamonds, not too dissimilar to our coaches playing style.

Could be 3x Spoons in a row.

 

[hank37w]

I think we are an unknown at best in 2024.

Rookie coach, entirely new halves pairing, 2nd year fullback, 18 year old back up hooker, 35 year old halfback, 21 year old 5/8. None of these guys have played any footy together.

Strap yourselves in for a wild ride. Think we will see plenty of rocks and diamonds, not too dissimilar to our coaches playing style.

Actually looking forward to it but we need some speedy backline signings who have some idea about how to defend if we want to get off the bottom rung of the ladder.

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

talented kid but not in the same league as Luke Laulili’i, Makasini, Craig etc, imo.

Mikey Nasser is a pretty bad loss, outstanding fullback that averaged over 200m a game. Scored 5 tries in 3 games a year young in 2022 and backed it up in 2023 scoring 6. Also got picked in NSW CHS Union 18s at 15 years old. Apparently had 9 clubs after him. Would have made Australian schoolboys this but got injured at CHS trial. Kid is 16 years old 6'2, got best & fairest at Tigers and runs the 100m in under 10.8 secs. We need to keep all these kids. This kid going to roosters or dogs is going to be a Ryan Papz type loss in 3 years.

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

Hard to say at that age.

Him and Conti were the two best players from the Balmain Matts team this year.

Looks like the club has prioritised Luke Laulilii, who is the same age and also plays fullback.

Naser and Conti were collateral damage in the feud between Marshall and Fulton. Not good losing kids of this calibre

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

Never heard of him, but I would doubt he runs sub 11 seconds at 16yo.
Kid must have lightening bolts instead of feet.

If anyone knows Benji Marshall ask the chief what he thinks of Mikey Nasser. I spoke to him and he thinks it a massive loss. I watch 6 or 7 of their games this years and the kid is lightning fast, the dad owns Pain Away and makes sure his kid is kept out of the limelight. There is a video out on Facebook the kid is very fast.

 

[851]

Was Blair a case of him not being coached and utilised to his strengths?

100% it was, Blair hardly missed a game with us, I wasn't too hard on him like plenty of others, he was good at the Storm before he came, and good at the Bronco's and Warriors after he left, that pretty much says it all

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

Never heard of him, but I would doubt he runs sub 11 seconds at 16yo.
Kid must have lightening bolts instead of feet.

He does run the 100m in under 10.8 secs my son used to go to school with him. And the kid has one of the biggest boots in footy had 10 fropout restarts from his kickoffs and in a video on facebook kicked a drop out nearly 60m on the fly. Very bad recruitment at the Tigers. I am try to get the video.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Hang on; there's a rumor that a player, currently 26, who plays in the halves, has 3 premiership rings and has played 7 origins, could be a realistic target for the club, yet people are not a fan of the idea...

Have I got that correct?

Oh dear.

sign Luai any time he becomes available and fit him in to either 6 or 7

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

The only way I can see a luai deal working out is if we go sezer 7 Sullivan 6 next year with 2025 onwards being Sullivan 7 luai 6 and latu in the centres for a few years until luai is moved on

Sullivan to 14 in 2025 perhaps
2025
7. Luai
6. Fainu

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

He does run the 100m in under 10.8 secs my son used to go to school with him. And the kid has one of the biggest boots in footy had 10 fropout restarts from his kickoffs and in a video on facebook kicked a drop out nearly 60m on the fly. Very bad recruitment at the Tigers. I am try to get the video.

He does run the 100m in under 10.8 secs my son used to go to school with him. And the kid has one of the biggest boots in footy had 10 fropout restarts from his kickoffs and in a video on facebook kicked a drop out nearly 60m on the fly. Very bad recruitment at the Tigers. I am try to get the video.

Never heard of him, but I would doubt he runs sub 11 seconds at 16yo.
Kid must have lightening bolts instead of feet.

Here is a video of Mikey Nasser from Mace Karhani's video. Kid is very quick.

 

[ROZELLE.O.G]

You can see this kid Mikey Nasser at 1.55 of this video.

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

Morgan Smithies set to sign with Canberra, I thought he could've been a solid pickup for us.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

If anyone knows Benji Marshall ask the chief what he thinks of Mikey Nasser. I spoke to him and he thinks it a massive loss. I watch 6 or 7 of their games this years and the kid is lightning fast, the dad owns Pain Away and makes sure his kid is kept out of the limelight. There is a video out on Facebook the kid is very fast.

I know it's disappointing to lose particularly Nasser & Conti but we don't know what sort of commitment they wanted to stay with us.

Maybe the club decided to prioritise a few other 15 - 17yos in the backs - Onitoni & Ashton Large, Luke Laulilii, Heamasi Makasini, Alex Isdale, Ali Karnib, Riley Oitmann, Thomas Goodfield.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

This day last year we released Zane Musgrove, followed up a week later doing the Peachey/Staines swap & a few days after that released Gildart to the Dolphins.

Hoping for similar activity over the next 2 weeks - Jake Simpkin, AJ Kepaoa & Nofa!!!

 

[hsvjones]

I know it's disappointing to lose particularly Nasser & Conti but we don't know what sort of commitment they wanted to stay with us.

Maybe the club decided to prioritise a few other 15 - 17yos in the backs - Onitoni & Ashton Large, Luke Laulilii, Heamasi Makasini, Alex Isdale, Ali Karnib, Riley Oitmann, Thomas Goodfield.

Agree and to back that up we are NOT going to keep everyone. Player Managers will do what's best for them and their relationships. IMO we are building nicely.

 

[tony soprano]

Mestrov saying Haumole singing is imminent with manly

 

[innsaneink]

Mestrov saying Haumole singing is imminent

For us?

 

[Vicious]

If anyone knows Benji Marshall ask the chief what he thinks of Mikey Nasser. I spoke to him and he thinks it a massive loss. I watch 6 or 7 of their games this years and the kid is lightning fast, the dad owns Pain Away and makes sure his kid is kept out of the limelight. There is a video out on Facebook the kid is very fast.

It’s never good losing talented young players to other clubs, but you would have to think Wests Tigers wanted to keep them and they have been offered more money elsewhere, is that correct ?