Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BAGNF05]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

No thanks. Flat track bully whose only played well in teams of rep stars. Adam Blair mark 2.

He was the roosters best forward for the second half of the year, would easily be our best forward, I don't get your dislike for him, I would jump at the chance, he can play on an edge or in the middle, but I would play him on an edge

Good player in a mean forward pack. I want us to sign a bully, he seems like a nice bloke.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I said a few weeks ago , if it came down to Angus Chrichton and JAC, considering where our team is at , I pick Chrichton every time . The kid is a legit origin player , who has fallen out of favour at the only premier league type fickleness club in Aus . The backs are not where we lack . We lack speed , sure , but we lack defence and reliability more . We have proven we can score points . But defend attacking raids is our Achilles heel. If you added a Chrichton with Tamou and Stefano , and suddenly there’s some starch in the defensive line .

 

[OzLuke]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

 

[BAGNF05]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

 

[mike]

Nothing wrong with paying big bucks for players as long as they’re good players. Giving someone like JAC extra money is fine he’s in the prime of his career and is an Australian level player, he will be good. Big difference compared to paying overs for someone like Packer

You just can’t. Some people on here have suggested $1M a season and it just ridiculous. Imagine if he got a serious injury round 1. We would have $3M sitting on the sidelines for 2021. That is financial mismanagement personified. We need a balanced cap and that means not paying overs for anyone.

C’mon mate ..
So you’re saying you’d rather a squad full of average players because a marquee signing could get injured .

No. I’m saying we have to be smart about our recruitment and not repeat the same mistakes of the past by paying overs for players. This is the mindset that has put us in the horrible position we are now and have been for several years and it has to stop.

Packer Reynolds and Mbye will never be repeated ...
Addo Carr is pretty much a once in a lifetime signing ..
By the way Crichton is on 1 Million at the Rorters !

It will be repeated if we continue have the mindset that we have to pay overs to attract talent.

I give up ...
Go count your pennies lol

You count yours pennies to ensure you have a strong, balanced and competitive overall team and roster. Not a lopsided sided roster with one or more highly overpaid players. Doing this has the effect that you can only attract low salaried and less effective players to fill the remaining spots on the roster. That has been our problem for the last decade and it has to stop now or we will continue being a bottom 8 club.

 

[hobbo1]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

And that’s the issue ...
The club and the fans are ingrained with mediocrity..
We can’t trade Tommy Treadmill for a current Origin and Test flyer ..
Nofo can’t even make Freddys train on squad .
Crichton is pretty average .. I’d pass on him

 

[OzLuke]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

true....but since FH and Hetherington aren't available....we need to look at what we can get to improve our squad, not on what is unattainable. Crichton would improve our pack, is a gf and origin winner. Roosters looking at offloading him so we work that to our advantage, we offer half his wage and our squad is better.
he has also worked under a system led by Madge so knows what to expect, and not snowflake out at the thought of hard work.

 

[BAGNF05]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

true....but since FH and Hetherington aren't available....we need to look at what we can get to improve our squad, not on what is unattainable. Crichton would improve our pack, is a gf and origin winner. Roosters looking at offloading him so we work that to our advantage, we offer half his wage and our squad is better.
he has also worked under a system led by Madge so knows what to expect, and not snowflake out at the thought of hard work.

I’d rather we spent half the money on the best 19 year old aggressive forward who we know will be a steady improver. Sick of signing other clubs discards.

 

[OzLuke]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

true....but since FH and Hetherington aren't available....we need to look at what we can get to improve our squad, not on what is unattainable. Crichton would improve our pack, is a gf and origin winner. Roosters looking at offloading him so we work that to our advantage, we offer half his wage and our squad is better.
he has also worked under a system led by Madge so knows what to expect, and not snowflake out at the thought of hard work.

I’d rather we spent half the money on the best 19 year old aggressive forward who we know will be a steady improver. Sick of signing other clubs discards.

to be perfectly honest so would I....but I am not across our juniors like a lot of people are here so I can't really comment on that. What I will say is whilst all this talk of signing players keeping players etc is going on, none of those forumers in the know with our juniors are up in arms because a gun forward coming through the ranks is missing out because we "sign crichton".....

 

[hobbo1]

Nothing wrong with paying big bucks for players as long as they’re good players. Giving someone like JAC extra money is fine he’s in the prime of his career and is an Australian level player, he will be good. Big difference compared to paying overs for someone like Packer

You just can’t. Some people on here have suggested $1M a season and it just ridiculous. Imagine if he got a serious injury round 1. We would have $3M sitting on the sidelines for 2021. That is financial mismanagement personified. We need a balanced cap and that means not paying overs for anyone.

C’mon mate ..
So you’re saying you’d rather a squad full of average players because a marquee signing could get injured .

No. I’m saying we have to be smart about our recruitment and not repeat the same mistakes of the past by paying overs for players. This is the mindset that has put us in the horrible position we are now and have been for several years and it has to stop.

Packer Reynolds and Mbye will never be repeated ...
Addo Carr is pretty much a once in a lifetime signing ..
By the way Crichton is on 1 Million at the Rorters !

It will be repeated if we continue have the mindset that we have to pay overs to attract talent.

I give up ...
Go count your pennies lol

You count yours pennies to ensure you have a strong, balanced and competitive overall team and roster. Not a lopsided sided roster with one or more highly overpaid players. Doing this has the effect that you can only attract low salaried and less effective players to fill the remaining spots on the roster. That has been our problem for the last decade and it has to stop now or we will continue being a bottom 8 club.

No it’s not the money it’s the poor player choices that have crippled us .

We will always be a bottom 8 club because we’re not willing to pay top gun players what they’re worth but we’re happy to prop up the pensions of plodders like Tamou..
That’s why we struggle

 

[BAGNF05]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

true....but since FH and Hetherington aren't available....we need to look at what we can get to improve our squad, not on what is unattainable. Crichton would improve our pack, is a gf and origin winner. Roosters looking at offloading him so we work that to our advantage, we offer half his wage and our squad is better.
he has also worked under a system led by Madge so knows what to expect, and not snowflake out at the thought of hard work.

I’d rather we spent half the money on the best 19 year old aggressive forward who we know will be a steady improver. Sick of signing other clubs discards.

to be perfectly honest so would I....but I am not across our juniors like a lot of people are here so I can't really comment on that. What I will say is whilst all this talk of signing players keeping players etc is going on, none of those forumers in the know with our juniors are up in arms because a gun forward coming through the ranks is missing out because we "sign crichton".....

Maybe the problem is the club wouldn’t have a clue who the best 19 year old forward is...

Guarantee Storm do.

 

[OzLuke]

Angus Chrichton anyone?

The Roosters pursuit of teenage sensation Jopseh Suaalii could see them lose Origin second-rower Angus Crichton as the club begin shedding salary cap space to secure the Rabbitohs junior.
The Daily Telegraph report Suaalii has knocked back a $2 million offer from South Sydney, where he's played his junior rugby league, and is on the radar of fierce rivals the Roosters, who have offered a long-term deal.
Suaali is under contract at Redfern until the end of next year and would need to gain a release if he decides to shift to another club.
While the Rabbitohs are expected to play hardball with their arch-rivals, the Roosters now appear in the box seat for Suaalli's signature, despite Rugby Australia also making an approach with a lucrative offer.
Channel Nine's Danny Weidler told Sky Sports Racing's Big Sports Breakfast the Roosters are the club Suaalii is favouring, but said last year's premiers had "issues" with their roster that needed solving first.

The Roosters have already begun a minor clean-out with the release of Kyle Flanagan and Poasa Fa'amausili on Tuesday.
However, Weidler suggests it could see them also let go of big-money forward Crichton as the club looks to lock up Jake Friend and the Morris twins, as well as Suaalii, in the coming weeks.
"The Roosters are in the process of making room to try and secure Suaalli. I think Kyle Flanagan is a part of that," Weidler said.
"They've got issues, they've got to secure the Morris's, they haven't announced them as re-signings yet; Jake Friend, I think he's got a deal there but they haven't registered that either.. they also want to get Suaalii.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/joseph-suaalii-sydney-roosters-south-sydney-rabbitohs-angus-crichton/1d1t10x9jhlq710v4itqs3ms3a?fbclid=IwAR2VSzRFlw-D0czPpC4pwPd4axF8JyjtJIPjoGn5HK6t2bU_jTR0Vaj_f4M

Well Crichton would be an upgrade on Garner I guess if true

I'd take crichton. he'd add some dynamics to our forward pack.

A definite yes, if the price is right.

What would your price be on Crichton ?

what's his contract at the moment? 1 mill? I'd pay in 500k for him with roosters paying the rest

Yeah he’s on 1 Mill
Who’d you rather drop 1Mill on ?
Addo Carr or Crichton?

??? our forward pack needs an upgrade....our backs need an upgrade....

If it came down to giving up Nof or Tommy to get JAC then i would rather drop the cash on Crichton because we lose nothing and get a current origin player for half price.
But at full freight no clauses or hang ups? JAC. I think he would add more to the locker room than crichton and that is intangible but hugely necessary....good locker room means improved results on the pitch.

I am telling you no NRL side fears playing our forward pack. Crichton wouldn’t change that. We need an enforcer like Fisher Harris or Hetherington.

true....but since FH and Hetherington aren't available....we need to look at what we can get to improve our squad, not on what is unattainable. Crichton would improve our pack, is a gf and origin winner. Roosters looking at offloading him so we work that to our advantage, we offer half his wage and our squad is better.
he has also worked under a system led by Madge so knows what to expect, and not snowflake out at the thought of hard work.

I’d rather we spent half the money on the best 19 year old aggressive forward who we know will be a steady improver. Sick of signing other clubs discards.

to be perfectly honest so would I....but I am not across our juniors like a lot of people are here so I can't really comment on that. What I will say is whilst all this talk of signing players keeping players etc is going on, none of those forumers in the know with our juniors are up in arms because a gun forward coming through the ranks is missing out because we "sign crichton".....

Maybe the problem is the club wouldn’t have a clue who the best 19 year old forward is...

Guarantee Storm do.

that could also be a fair assumption too...

 

[boonboon]

Few things more Tigers fan then not wanting a 24 yr old who has played almost 100 nrl games, premiership winner, origin the last 2 years, averaged 124m a game and has played under Madge before.

 

[Bones]

Russell you make many good points but what concerns me is that he brought in 6 of his own players this season and yet we went backwards. As for his time at south’s it is well known in football circles that players spoke to him about being flogged at training.But I’m happy to give him next season and I hope we can improve I want the club to be successful

He bought and extended cheap players because there was very little salary cap and you need 30 players in the squad. That is a very important point that you are conveniently ignoring.

Mate Doueihi on 500/600 a season
Joey L on the same that’s cheap in your opinion your the one making excuses for Maguire

Doueihi is a very good player and I have no problem with his contract especially if he plays in the halves.

Also both players are being topped up by their previous club so we got them cheaper for the initial part of their contract.

 

[BAGNF05]

Few things more Tigers fan then not wanting a 24 yr old who has played almost 100 nrl games, premiership winner, origin the last 2 years, averaged 124m a game and has played under Madge before.

Also injury prone and doesn’t strike fear into opponents. If roosters were paying half his freight then yes, as we could also add a young tiro.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Russell you make many good points but what concerns me is that he brought in 6 of his own players this season and yet we went backwards. As for his time at south’s it is well known in football circles that players spoke to him about being flogged at training.But I’m happy to give him next season and I hope we can improve I want the club to be successful

He bought and extended cheap players because there was very little salary cap and you need 30 players in the squad. That is a very important point that you are conveniently ignoring.

Mate Doueihi on 500/600 a season
Joey L on the same that’s cheap in your opinion your the one making excuses for Maguire

Doueihi is a very good player and I have no problem with his contract especially if he plays in the halves.

Also both players are being topped up by their previous club so we got them cheaper for the initial part of their contract.

Doueihi is a very good buy.

 

[hsvjones]

Nothing wrong with paying big bucks for players as long as they’re good players. Giving someone like JAC extra money is fine he’s in the prime of his career and is an Australian level player, he will be good. Big difference compared to paying overs for someone like Packer

You just can’t. Some people on here have suggested $1M a season and it just ridiculous. Imagine if he got a serious injury round 1. We would have $3M sitting on the sidelines for 2021. That is financial mismanagement personified. We need a balanced cap and that means not paying overs for anyone.

C’mon mate ..
So you’re saying you’d rather a squad full of average players because a marquee signing could get injured .

No. I’m saying we have to be smart about our recruitment and not repeat the same mistakes of the past by paying overs for players. This is the mindset that has put us in the horrible position we are now and have been for several years and it has to stop.

Packer Reynolds and Mbye will never be repeated ...
Addo Carr is pretty much a once in a lifetime signing ..
By the way Crichton is on 1 Million at the Rorters !

It will be repeated if we continue have the mindset that we have to pay overs to attract talent.

But we do unfortunately... Until we get a big name player and others want to join us, the good ones will stay clear. Titans are doing it with Fifita and players want to go there now and see an upside. Don't get me wrong you don't pay overs to all of them but clearly we are not a desirable club for players because if we were we wouldn't be even talking about this.
You cannot go into a shell because Cleary brought 3 duds for us in the past that were over the hill and injury prone. So to sit back waiting 3-5 years for 1 of our young guns to turn into a diamond in the rough is madness. JAC is a proven talent and only 25 years old so for me it's no brainer and would pay an extra 100k if it meant we landed him.

 

[boonboon]

Few things more Tigers fan then not wanting a 24 yr old who has played almost 100 nrl games, premiership winner, origin the last 2 years, averaged 124m a game and has played under Madge before.

Also injury prone and doesn’t strike fear into opponents. If roosters were paying half his freight then yes, as we could also add a young tiro.

Injury prone ? Has played 41 games in last 2 years

 

[mike]

Nothing wrong with paying big bucks for players as long as they’re good players. Giving someone like JAC extra money is fine he’s in the prime of his career and is an Australian level player, he will be good. Big difference compared to paying overs for someone like Packer

You just can’t. Some people on here have suggested $1M a season and it just ridiculous. Imagine if he got a serious injury round 1. We would have $3M sitting on the sidelines for 2021. That is financial mismanagement personified. We need a balanced cap and that means not paying overs for anyone.

C’mon mate ..
So you’re saying you’d rather a squad full of average players because a marquee signing could get injured .

No. I’m saying we have to be smart about our recruitment and not repeat the same mistakes of the past by paying overs for players. This is the mindset that has put us in the horrible position we are now and have been for several years and it has to stop.

Packer Reynolds and Mbye will never be repeated ...
Addo Carr is pretty much a once in a lifetime signing ..
By the way Crichton is on 1 Million at the Rorters !

It will be repeated if we continue have the mindset that we have to pay overs to attract talent.

I give up ...
Go count your pennies lol

You count yours pennies to ensure you have a strong, balanced and competitive overall team and roster. Not a lopsided sided roster with one or more highly overpaid players. Doing this has the effect that you can only attract low salaried and less effective players to fill the remaining spots on the roster. That has been our problem for the last decade and it has to stop now or we will continue being a bottom 8 club.

No it’s not the money it’s the poor player choices that have crippled us .

We will always be a bottom 8 club because we’re not willing to pay top gun players what they’re worth but we’re happy to prop up the pensions of plodders like Tamou..
That’s why we struggle

Can’t at all agree with that. The choice happens because of the lopsided roster. It doesn’t leave you much left to attract the players you need.

 

[BAGNF05]

Few things more Tigers fan then not wanting a 24 yr old who has played almost 100 nrl games, premiership winner, origin the last 2 years, averaged 124m a game and has played under Madge before.

Also injury prone and doesn’t strike fear into opponents. If roosters were paying half his freight then yes, as we could also add a young tiro.

Injury prone ? Has played 41 games in last 2 years

Troublesome knee, repeated weeks off at different stages and had a finger lopped