Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

I feel if a player has a choice of coming to us when our new C of E is operational or going to a stronger club whose C of E may not be as good, imo there is every chance we will still lose him to the stronger club.

Fair enough can understand that. If we are up against strong clubs we will never be favourites until we start performing unfortunately

 

[cochise]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

They are already being shown a walk through.

 

[cochise]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Yup completely agree.

Mentioned this a while back - the fact other clubs have them and/or are also having them built is more reason to need them. I don't have an incredible amount of insight into our facilities, but from what I've seen they are terrible for a professional club.

As I player, myself, I would 100% factor in where I'm spending almost every day into my decision.

Penrith CoE is just beautiful.

Didn’t the move to demountables actually improve our facilities, somehow ? Which shows how bad they were to begin with .

The demountable are much nicer than the old facilities.

 

[cochise]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

Have they got experience in identifying talent though .....horses for courses ....aces on their bases ...haven't heard of them in those type of roles previously

Our football manager was the Roosters' recruitment officer. I read he has close links with schools which is an advantage in identifying and securing talent before the bigger clubs do.

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

Have they got experience in identifying talent though .....horses for courses ....aces on their bases ...haven't heard of them in those type of roles previously

Our football manager was the Roosters' recruitment officer. I read he has close links with schools which is an advantage in identifying and securing talent before the bigger clubs do.

I'll bet Hartigan isn't at every talent camp , state title , Arrive Alive Cup , Confraternity Shield game


Its your people on the ground who identify that talent .....

Not as important as it used to be and Hartigan isn't working alone, we also have the guy who was involved in Melbourne's recruitment. I can't remember his name at the moment.

 

[cochise]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

Have they got experience in identifying talent though .....horses for courses ....aces on their bases ...haven't heard of them in those type of roles previously

Our football manager was the Roosters' recruitment officer. I read he has close links with schools which is an advantage in identifying and securing talent before the bigger clubs do.

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

I don’t think the COE means bugger all for attracting players, JAC mentioned it being something that looked good in regards to joining us

We need to show it off though especially to young kids who we want to sign. Walk them through the building show them our brand new state of the art facilities once they’re done. That’s what Penrith do and it works.

Position, position, position. It's the Karma Sutra of COEs located in the inner west. It is a gold mine of talent in our heartland.

But you won't retain all the talent and then you need someone who will identify the best talent to suit the WT's needs

Look at Brisbane ...so much talent , bit identifying the most important talent is the hardest thing

I think we are spot on now with talent identification and retention, Also having Hodgson and Palmer in Pathways is a huge improvement for WTs.

Have they got experience in identifying talent though .....horses for courses ....aces on their bases ...haven't heard of them in those type of roles previously

Our football manager was the Roosters' recruitment officer. I read he has close links with schools which is an advantage in identifying and securing talent before the bigger clubs do.

I'll bet Hartigan isn't at every talent camp , state title , Arrive Alive Cup , Confraternity Shield game


Its your people on the ground who identify that talent .....

Woodward collects data from every Rugby League competition ..complied and weekly sent to Hartigan..

Thanks @geo that was the name I couldn't remember. It is surprising the amount of data the club has access to.

 

[cochise]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Its really important to keep these guy involved and engaged in the club, it helps control the message from former players to the media.

 

[cochise]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Great news .... Just don't need Benji anywhere near us for a while.

I think it’ll be alright as long as Robbie knows he’s not in charge ? he will be good for Liddle and Simpkin though, both are good running the ball and that’s Farahs specialty.

I think he is going to have more of a focus with the pathways and coaching juniors.

 

[Telltails]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Its really important to keep these guy involved and engaged in the club, it helps control the message from former players to the media.

Absolutely agree. Both are respected by their peers, and have an identified link to the club when engaging with the wider NRL community. Both have consistently pledged their allegiance to the WTs and no doubt will promote the club positively.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Great news .... Just don't need Benji anywhere near us for a while.

I think it’ll be alright as long as Robbie knows he’s not in charge ? he will be good for Liddle and Simpkin though, both are good running the ball and that’s Farahs specialty.

Hopefully we can also utilise Robbie to lure prospective players to our club. I thought Benji too, but no, not now, maybe in a few years, but by then his stature will probably have decreased and there'll be no point.

Definitely do not want Robbie and Benji both.

Robbie moving in to taking over the coaching roll
?

 

[JD Tiger]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Its really important to keep these guy involved and engaged in the club, it helps control the message from former players to the media.

Absolutely agree. Both are respected by their peers, and have an identified link to the club when engaging with the wider NRL community. **Both have consistently pledged their allegiance to the WTs and no doubt will promote the club positively.**

I'm not sure I agree with that sentence highlighted, but I definitely agree with the sentiment that we need that involvement with our ex-players.

This is exactly how when we start moving upwards, we can maintain that position though. Great to see we are putting all the pieces together.

 

[Telltails]

Just read thah Robbie is taking up his ambassador role for next season and will also be doing some specialist dummy half coaching. Lawrence is expected to have an off field role too.

Its really important to keep these guy involved and engaged in the club, it helps control the message from former players to the media.

Absolutely agree. Both are respected by their peers, and have an identified link to the club when engaging with the wider NRL community. **Both have consistently pledged their allegiance to the WTs and no doubt will promote the club positively.**

I'm not sure I agree with that sentence highlighted, but I definitely agree with the sentiment that we need that involvement with our ex-players.

This is exactly how when we start moving upwards, we can maintain that position though. Great to see we are putting all the pieces together.

They may not have agreed with some of the decisions made by individuals at the club affecting their careers, but both to my knowledge have shown nothing but loyalty to the club.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

SEN reporting ex Storm player Vunivalu set to join the Wallabies

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Can anyone confirm the money which the Club put aside for Grant is available to try and procure Crichton from the Roosters? The info about the $ was from an earlier post by The Pom.

 

[balmain boy]

Can anyone confirm the money which the Club put aside for Grant is available to try and procure Crichton from the Roosters? The info about the $ was from an earlier post by The Pom.

I dare say We may have had 400k put aside for Grant for 2021. Crichton is on a million. No way we have the cash for him and jac unless roosters heavily subsidise. And why would they? For 2022 it's possible though.

 

[Madge]

Michael Maguire did bring over Crichton in 2017 to the rabbits, wouldnt mind if he did the same over here for the tigers.

 

[balmain boy]

The cupboard is looking extremely bare for 2021.

Apart from Tamou, all we've signed rookies that other clubs obviously didn't see as priorities.

Unless there are a few decent signings on the way, we're going to be battling for the spoon.


Well i think the policy is that if players are not worth signing from other clubs apart from JAC that's been tabled there is not much room within our cap to go on a spending spree like the bulldogs have done.

I have nil expectations making the 8 next year and do think we will finish somewhere where we did the this year.

The following year we will have some room and a new Centre of Excellence with facilities to attract some talent.

Suppose we just have to be patient until the following year.

Waiting for a centre of excellence to save us could be like waiting for Godot.

All the other clubs are buidding coes. Some even have a massive head start on us in running a successful coe (e.g Penrith).

Bottom line is that, as it stands, we're going into 2021 with our weakest roster for many years.

A lot of people will disagree, but losing guys like Benji, Lawrence, Huth and Taylor from our roster and not replacing them with some level of experience is a huge deal.

That's probably close to 1,000 games of experience gone.

While none were youngsters, you could guarantee that they'd keep a cool head and wouldn't have a total shocker.

Um, did you really not see any of the total shockers particularly Benji but also Lawrence had for us over the past few years? There's lots of data there for you to examine... Experience does not equal value.

What we need is leadership and performance, and these are traits that the guys you mentioned coudn't provide, Taylor to a certain degree did. No faulting his attitude, just his performance and health.

 

[Vince Farrar]

Benji reportedly not going to the Cowboys as they can only afford $150k not the $400k he is after telegraph reports.

 

[eyewondertwo]

i wonder whether robbie would have designs on a coaching role in a few years time?
His passion and desire for the tigers is unquestioned.

 

[jadtiger]

Benji reportedly not going to the Cowboys as they can only afford $150k not the $400k he is after telegraph reports.

As if any NRL club would give Benji 400k.He is completely deluded, father time has ran straight past him.Benji is either getting very bad advice or ignoring good advice

 

[Russell]

i wonder whether robbie would have designs on a coaching role in a few years time?
His passion and desire for the tigers is unquestioned.

Could be an opening in the S G Ball team for a coach in a few years.