Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

If you want a better hooker you’ll be needing to sign Hodgson, Grant, Cook, Cam Smith or Korisau. He’s top class, once he’s back at hooker you’ll see it. Comparing him to Reynolds is laughable, the bloke has played for Melbourne and internationally at hooker and killed it. To say he is just an average dummy half is very questionable to say the least. I’m also keen to see how our young hookers go, both have plenty of potential
 
@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280972) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280942) said:
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280939) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

It would be bloomin terrific to have The cheese at Wests Tigers...he's exactly the type of player Madge wants.
But...we don't 'really' need him as we have a potentially very good 9 in Liddle and a potentially excellent 9 in Simpkins.
Because of that Wests are now able to deal from a position of strength in $$$ terms.
If The Cheese 'really' wants to play for Us he will have to be prepared to accept the $$$ We offer.
Wests Tigers dont pay overs anymore!!!

It’s not a huge priority but if we can upgrade our team with a player of that talent we need to try. It’s impossible to know how Liddle and Simpkin will go next year too

That's where most of us here land, though it should also be remembered that Maguire was happy to go into this season with Liddle at nine prior to Talau smashing his knee ligaments.

The other point is the form of post storm system players, as they almost always turn out to be square edge types trying to fit rounds elsewhere. Again, at appropriate dollars yes interested, otherwise we move on.

He’s shown his talent player for other teams though, he’s killed it for the all stars and NZ. The bloke can play
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

How can you genuinely say he’s not a good hooker? In his time at Melbourne I’d be surprised if he’s played more than 10 games at the position. Of course he’s not as good as those players mentioned as he’s been stuck behind the best player to ever play that position. If I’m not mistaken, every game he’s played hooker under madge, he’s been man of the match. There’s been no legitimate fees mentioned yet, all speculation.

Plus you are deluded if you think we have the 2 best young hookers in the comp. Liddle has more games out injured than he has completed passes and even when he’s on the field he’s looked average at best. While I do have high hopes for simpkin he’s played one nsw cup game and that’s it. To say that we’re okay in the hooker position is an absolute joke
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280978) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

How can you genuinely say he’s not a good hooker? In his time at Melbourne I’d be surprised if he’s played more than 10 games at the position. Of course he’s not as good as those players mentioned as he’s been stuck behind the best player to ever play that position. If I’m not mistaken, every game he’s played hooker under madge, he’s been man of the match. There’s been no legitimate fees mentioned yet, all speculation.

Plus you are deluded if you think we have the 2 best young hookers in the comp. Liddle has more games out injured than he has completed passes and even when he’s on the field he’s looked average at best. While I do have high hopes for simpkin he’s played one nsw cup game and that’s it. To say that we’re okay in the hooker position is an absolute joke

He’s impressed me every time I’ve watched him play hooker. He’s a constant threat for any defence
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280957) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280954) said:
And downgrading another position at the same time ?

If you finish ahead then you do the deal IMO.

You are not going to significantly upgrade your squad by trading an NRL quality player for another NRL quality player, even if he is an "upgrade".

You make a material improvement to your squad by keeping all your NRL quality players and adding a quality player to the squad.

Making small incremental improvements won't get you very far, very fast.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280958) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280932) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280861) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280833) said:
Some crazy claims on both sides around Nofa's ability in this thread. Fact is he is rated at least the 2nd best winger based only on this year's performances. He was also the Tigers best performer according to his team mates. That is also a fact.

No matter how you shape the argument to push an agenda, he is worth a lot to us, and it will be a big coup if we re-sign him long term.



@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280833) said:
Some crazy claims on both sides around Nofa's ability in this thread. Fact is he is rated at least the 2nd best winger based only on this year's performances. He was also the TigersYo best performer according to his team mates. That is also a fact.

No matter how you shape the argument to push an agenda, he is worth a lot to us, and it will be a big coup if we re-sign him long term.




The NSW SOO squad included 3 wingers. There was also Trbojevic who is injured and Papenhuyzen who could fill in if required. Why is it his value is so overstated at WTs? The squad included 27 players so he was not rated in basically two teams worth of players in NSW. Qld have their own wingers.


There is no getting around the fact better skillets are required in rep football and NSW selectors have spo ken.

Don’t care about SOO, it’s all politics. Moylan used to get picked ahead of Tedesco, and Ennis ahead of Farah.

Here are the best players in each position in 2020: http://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/nrl/nrl-premiership/dally-m/team-of-the-year-live-there-are-13-reasons-this-dally-m-night-is-different-from-any-in-history/news-story/7f2168a8fec8027058cfd9e2a35

I can't see politics having anything to do with JAC, Tupou or Cotric being selected. I'll also include Trbojevic as he would have been there too had it not been for injury. All deserved selection ahead of Nofoaluma.

You might not see it, but as someone said already, that team lost against the worst QLD side in 20 years. Enough said.
 
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280939) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

It would be bloomin terrific to have The cheese at Wests Tigers...he's exactly the type of player Madge wants.
But...we don't 'really' need him as we have a potentially very good 9 in Liddle and a potentially excellent 9 in Simpkins.
Because of that Wests are now able to deal from a position of strength in $$$ terms.
If The Cheese 'really' wants to play for Us he will have to be prepared to accept the $$$ We offer.
Wests Tigers dont pay overs anymore!!!

Hopefully we miss out.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280983) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280978) said:
and even when he’s on the field he’s looked average at best.

Rubbish ! Let's agree to disagree on that one.

You must watch a different Liddle Mate, really isn’t that good with his time presented and I don’t think you could convince me otherwise
 
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280993) said:
@fibrodreaming said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280983) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280978) said:
and even when he’s on the field he’s looked average at best.

Rubbish ! Let's agree to disagree on that one.

You must watch a different Liddle Mate, really isn’t that good with his time presented and I don’t think you could convince me otherwise

As I say, let's agree to disagree.
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280976) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

If you want a better hooker you’ll be needing to sign Hodgson, Grant, Cook, Cam Smith or Korisau. He’s top class, once he’s back at hooker you’ll see it. Comparing him to Reynolds is laughable, the bloke has played for Melbourne and internationally at hooker and killed it. To say he is just an average dummy half is very questionable to say the least. I’m also keen to see how our young hookers go, both have plenty of potential

I've seen enough of Liddle in 43 games to say he is what we are looking for.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280991) said:
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280939) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

It would be bloomin terrific to have The cheese at Wests Tigers...he's exactly the type of player Madge wants.
But...we don't 'really' need him as we have a potentially very good 9 in Liddle and a potentially excellent 9 in Simpkins.
Because of that Wests are now able to deal from a position of strength in $$$ terms.
If The Cheese 'really' wants to play for Us he will have to be prepared to accept the $$$ We offer.
Wests Tigers dont pay overs anymore!!!

Hopefully we miss out.

Crazy talk.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280932) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280861) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280833) said:
Some crazy claims on both sides around Nofa's ability in this thread. Fact is he is rated at least the 2nd best winger based only on this year's performances. He was also the Tigers best performer according to his team mates. That is also a fact.

No matter how you shape the argument to push an agenda, he is worth a lot to us, and it will be a big coup if we re-sign him long term.



@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280833) said:
Some crazy claims on both sides around Nofa's ability in this thread. Fact is he is rated at least the 2nd best winger based only on this year's performances. He was also the TigersYo best performer according to his team mates. That is also a fact.

No matter how you shape the argument to push an agenda, he is worth a lot to us, and it will be a big coup if we re-sign him long term.




The NSW SOO squad included 3 wingers. There was also Trbojevic who is injured and Papenhuyzen who could fill in if required. Why is it his value is so overstated at WTs? The squad included 27 players so he was not rated in basically two teams worth of players in NSW. Qld have their own wingers.


There is no getting around the fact better skillets are required in rep football and NSW selectors have spo ken.

Don’t care about SOO, it’s all politics. Moylan used to get picked ahead of Tedesco, and Ennis ahead of Farah.

Here are the best players in each position in 2020: http://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/nrl/nrl-premiership/dally-m/team-of-the-year-live-there-are-13-reasons-this-dally-m-night-is-different-from-any-in-history/news-story/7f2168a8fec8027058cfd9e2a3588942

Bang on mate, selection is a lottery, if you are in the circle, you are good, if not, you miss out, basing his argument on origin selection is massively flawed
 
Im pretty sure the Cheese will be heading north .. (dont think it will be the Donkeys but the Titans are building a fair squad)
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280991) said:
@MAGPIES1963 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280939) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

It would be bloomin terrific to have The cheese at Wests Tigers...he's exactly the type of player Madge wants.
But...we don't 'really' need him as we have a potentially very good 9 in Liddle and a potentially excellent 9 in Simpkins.
Because of that Wests are now able to deal from a position of strength in $$$ terms.
If The Cheese 'really' wants to play for Us he will have to be prepared to accept the $$$ We offer.
Wests Tigers dont pay overs anymore!!!

Hopefully we miss out.

You're a hard sell old mate...
Seriously, He's actually a rep hooker (Deemed the best in his country)
We don't even have the best hooker in Reserve Grade (yet)
His effort and football smarts around the middle win us more games than we lose....
Winning more games than we lose makes us a top 8 side.

Heck, He shows more effort on effort than everyone in our team combined
(And we saw with Harry what that could do for us)

Most teams have more than one competitive mongrel in the side that will drag his team no matter the score... We don't have 1.

It's a yes from me - A HELL YES!!
 
Smith is a great player but don't expect us to hang onto Liddell and Simpkin if we end up signing him. These guys want to play NRL too and neither will be short of offers. Talented 9's are as rare as hens teeth.
 
@Curaeus said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1281001) said:
Smith is a great player but don't expect us to hang onto Liddell and Simpkin if we end up signing him. These guys want to play NRL too and neither will be short of offers. Talented 9's are as rare as hens teeth.

I agree, the Cheese would be great, but I don't want to lose Simpkin in the process, he will be a 10 year hooker, and it should be with us
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280995) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280976) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

If you want a better hooker you’ll be needing to sign Hodgson, Grant, Cook, Cam Smith or Korisau. He’s top class, once he’s back at hooker you’ll see it. Comparing him to Reynolds is laughable, the bloke has played for Melbourne and internationally at hooker and killed it. To say he is just an average dummy half is very questionable to say the least. I’m also keen to see how our young hookers go, both have plenty of potential

I've seen enough of Liddle in 43 games to say he is what we are looking for.

He’s no B Smith. Not even close, never will be.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1281004) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280995) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280976) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280974) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280919) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280914) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280890) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1280876) said:
Im going to put forward an unpopular opinion. I think Brandon Smith would be bad for the Tigers.

He is a great footballer, but as a hooker, I dont seem him as a technician, he is kind of like the Josh Reynolds (except with ability and talent) of hookers in that everthing is about effort and energy, pace. IMO at our stage of play we need a technician at 9. Good service, fast service, run when needed, get players where they need to be.

As a lock/middle forward, again all he has is effort. He is small and will never be elite in this position.

And he would cost us a lot of $$$$

Love the bloke, great player. Not for us IMO.

He would be our best player or close to it. We had an energetic hooker in Grant and he absolutely carved up. It will all depend on how are halves are doing anyway, if they aren’t smashing it then having a hooker who can create opportunities and do a lot of work will improve us greatly. If they’re going well then smith is still a fantastic hooker who’s a great defender can run the ball well and is 100% energy, don’t see how that’s a downside at all. He would improve our team no matter what I feel

He’d be our best player.

People forget how good a hooker he is because he’s been playing as a forward and because Harry is so good as well. He’s got great service, strong defender strong runner of the ball and he’s a ball of energy, only thing I haven’t seen is a kicking game but that’s fine.

He’s a great character he’s someone players want to play with and he’s the perfect fit for us. We’ve got money to spend so money isn’t an issue he just ticks all the boxes

I haven't forgotten how good a hooker he is - I just don't think he is that good a hooker. Someone suggested that he was a Reynolds with more energy and talent - I think that is a good summation.

He is not a great hooker, certainly not in the class of Cam Smith, Grant, Hodgson or Koroisau. He is not a great lock, certainly not in the class of Murray, Radley, Trbojevic, Taumalolo, Tarpine, Finucane, Yeo or Brown.

So a lot of money to pay for a player that is "just a ball of energy" - do we really want another Reynolds - we just got rid of him. we have the best two young hookers in the NRL - that people want to replace.

For the money he expects and demands to play hooker - I would want a much better DH, one that can organise the attack (not sure he can do that) and has a really good kicking game.

I don't think he ticks all the boxes by a long shot.

If you want a better hooker you’ll be needing to sign Hodgson, Grant, Cook, Cam Smith or Korisau. He’s top class, once he’s back at hooker you’ll see it. Comparing him to Reynolds is laughable, the bloke has played for Melbourne and internationally at hooker and killed it. To say he is just an average dummy half is very questionable to say the least. I’m also keen to see how our young hookers go, both have plenty of potential

I've seen enough of Liddle in 43 games to say he is what we are looking for.

He’s no B Smith. Not even close, never will be.

To be honest that are two completely different style of players.
 

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