Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

Mansour is on less then 400k at Penrith so given they need to get rid of him we are prob looking at paying under 200k/yr for last years grand final winger who averaged 180 meters, 21 line breaks and had 65 tackle breaks in 2020. He is a great trainer who will set a great example for our young players and will mean our sets will get off to great starts on either side of the field plus his defence is good.

No, he's on over 500k. Panthers will offer 200k max , meaning were paying 350-400k a year for a washed up player and are guaranteed to lose some of our top juniors. Would be an atrociously disgraceful signing, even if Laurie came early.
The only circumstance it's ok if we sign him is of we release Nof immediately and Mansour is his immediate replacement, which I just can't ever see happening!

I heard he was on close to $700k. We’d be paying a good part of that too most likely.

Surely Mansour couldn't be on that much. He'd be the highest paid winger in the world.

Plenty of bad contracts out there haha

 

[Leck]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

 

[compensate]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

 

[Leck]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

I get that, but he's only 30 and still has at least 3-4 good years in him. Look at the Morris boys, they've turned back the clock and they're 34.

If you check out his [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/joshmansour_/?hl=en) page you'll see that he's a health nut and looks after his body unlike a lot of NRL players at his age.

I stand by it. As long as the price is right he'd be an asset at WT.

 

[softlaw]

I think it will be either Mansour or Nofa for a large chunk of the season. With Benji gone we'll play far more direct and the centres will actually be involved in the game. That in itself would even up Mansour/ Nofo's attacking stats which will make the massive difference in defence far more important.

 

[hsvjones]

If you asked me 2 months ago about Mansour I would of been very concerned about the club signing him to a big contract... But after the recruitment decisions we have made over the last few months I have full faith in the club and its decisions. I feel very comfortable they wont pay overs for Mansour because if we were going to pay overs he would of been signed by now. Sounds like the club has put an offer out there for him at a lower rate and the ball is in his court as he know Panthers won't resign him after next season. For me if its a 2 year deal and not on massive money I say Yes just for the experience and quality he would bring to the young team. (he is only 30 not 35)
As for Nofa .... Something doesn't seem right with this one and could be the reason we are looking at Mansour.. We seem keen to keep him and I would assume the offer would be pretty good as we can use the salary cap exception on him so either he has a bigger offer elsewhere or just wants more from us.. Time will tell soon but very happy with our off season so far

 

[Goanna57]

Mansour is on less then 400k at Penrith so given they need to get rid of him we are prob looking at paying under 200k/yr for last years grand final winger who averaged 180 meters, 21 line breaks and had 65 tackle breaks in 2020. He is a great trainer who will set a great example for our young players and will mean our sets will get off to great starts on either side of the field plus his defence is good.

No, he's on over 500k. Panthers will offer 200k max , meaning were paying 350-400k a year for a washed up player and are guaranteed to lose some of our top juniors. Would be an atrociously disgraceful signing, even if Laurie came early.
The only circumstance it's ok if we sign him is of we release Nof immediately and Mansour is his immediate replacement, which I just can't ever see happening!

Yes but how do you know what the tigers will sign him for money wise and length of contract

 

[JC99]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

 

[Leck]

I think it will be either Mansour or Nofa for a large chunk of the season. With Benji gone we'll play far more direct and the centres will actually be involved in the game. That in itself would even up Mansour/ Nofo's attacking stats which will make the massive difference in defence far more important.

Nofa's always struggled with his positioning and tackling, hopefully the coaching staff can rectify that before the 2021 season kicks off

 

[Speed2burn]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

This

It gives me flashbacks of Robert Jennings looking good outside Inglis in 2018

 

[Rusty]

I think it will be either Mansour or Nofa for a large chunk of the season. With Benji gone we'll play far more direct and the centres will actually be involved in the game. That in itself would even up Mansour/ Nofo's attacking stats which will make the massive difference in defence far more important.

His reads in D is what we are after and if the boys inside do there job, well Jenning fell over the line 21 times, why cant he.

 

[Leck]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

He had a high-grade ACL injury in 2019 so his stats look rubbish. Career-ending injuries are part and parcel of the game and they happen to a lot of players, but he bounced back.

You're wrong regarding height, Josh is 183cm in height, Nofa is 182cm and the man that many regard as the best winger in the comp - Addo-Carr is also183cm.

 

[jadtiger]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

Completely correct,those figures for Mansour is when he is playing in the strongest team in the competition as compared to Nofs figures playing in the team that ran 11th.It is hardly an equal comparison.At pamfers Mansour had centres and halves who could tackle and not go missing in defence.Nof has BJ and Benji

 

[851]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

Whilst I can see that, we have banked on juniors before, and waited way too long for them to come good.

 

[Goanna57]

There seems to be a lot of each way punters on this forum.One minute we have a lot saying they trust In Madge and Hartigens
recruitment then not so much in the Mansour case

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Can someone answer where all this talk is coming from ? Is this a thing , or are you all jumping at shadows ? I can’t find anywhere what’s warranted the last 10-15 pages .

 

[TonyTiger]

Conveniently no stats for Mansour regarding dropped balls - the guy has butter fingers ... I was starting to believe the stories about Tigers looking after pathways for our young talent ... hopefully we are only taking Mansour so we can get Dane Laurie a year earlier - not because Pacacoe is looking after the Penrith Division of Meals On Wheels.
Ivan is the winner here - he can afford to offer Stephen Crichton massive dollars with the funds that Mansour was hogging!

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

Carbon copy? 69 tackle breaks compared to 118. No comparison.
One is in his prime, the other 2 or 3 years past his best.

 

[Jimmy]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and f steer the side around the park.

Agree on the note that grant and liddle are very different but Grant is more cook like whereas liddle is more Smith like without the kicking game....grant is a great threat around the ruck whilst liddle will make Brooks the main threat with his pin point passing game....i believe having liddle and brooks playing together will prove to us how good both are, if not sign CM and start giving Simpkin bigger minutes in 2021

 

[Muffstar]

I thought I read that Mansour may go to Parra and that would allow the trade of the Tigers player and the Panthers player to proceed. Sadly, I cannot locate that article again, I thought when I read it, it was a good outcome for the club.