Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jadtiger]

I thought I read that Mansour may go to Parra and that would allow the trade of the Tigers player and the Panthers player to proceed. Sadly, I cannot locate that article again, I thought when I read it, it was a good outcome for the club.

That would be a far better outcome for us,i hope it happens

 

[Leck]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups



Completely correct,those figures for Mansour is when he is playing in the strongest team in the competition as compared to Nofs figures playing in the team that ran 11th.It is hardly an equal comparison.At pamfers Mansour had centres and halves who could tackle and not go missing in defence.Nof has BJ and Benji

Nofa got a lot of ball and opportunities to score because Benji played right of the field rather than setting up the play on both sides of the ruck.

Hopefully with AD at 6 we'll have a better balanced attack that grinds through the middle and exploits both sides.

Mansour is a class finisher and has proven to play both left and right over his career + he's also an excellent defender which would without a doubt make us a better team.

If the price is right and we get Laurie for 2021 sign him up Madge.

 

[Telltails]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and f steer the side around the park.


Agree on the note that grant and liddle are very different but Grant is more cook like whereas liddle is more Smith like without the kicking game....grant is a great threat around the ruck whilst liddle will make Brooks the main threat with his pin point passing game....i believe having liddle and brooks playing together will prove to us how good both are, if not sign CM and start giving Simpkin bigger minutes in 2021

Grant has played SOO and excelled. Liddle yet to cement a FG spot. The comparisons for any other fans than ours must seem a bit ridiculous.
Let's just hope Liddle can build his game consistently by getting more game time and forget comparisons to Grant who has well surpassed that stage.

 

[Leck]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

Carbon copy? 69 tackle breaks compared to 118. No comparison.
One is in his prime, the other 2 or 3 years past his best.

Balance that with line breaks and missed tackles, yeah they're very similar.

Look at the big picture.

 

[jirskyr]

More to do with the fact we’ve already got one young guy missing out most likely, now we will have two with Mansour getting first crack at wing. Could create a situation where we lose a young guy - then Mansour is retiring a year later, and Mansour isn’t good enough a player to warrant that

That's still my point. If Mansour plays 2 years for Tigers, any kid who misses out is not as good a footballer as Mansour, in the opinion of the coach. If they are good enough, they'll force Mansour out of the side.

I raise a very big question mark over the long-term future of a young winger who isn't better than Josh Mansour by the end of season 2022. And if they are really young, then the existence of Josh Mansour is complementary rather than a hinderance, because they'll get their chance soon enough.

And if Mansour is good enough over two years to keep a very promising junior out of the top grades, then that's a win-win situation surely.

 

[tony soprano]

I thought I read that Mansour may go to Parra and that would allow the trade of the Tigers player and the Panthers player to proceed. Sadly, I cannot locate that article again, I thought when I read it, it was a good outcome for the club.

They would have to work something out with Ferguson first

 

[jirskyr]

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

Ah honest question, how many times have we blocked a junior's pathway with another signing (not even specifically an aged signing, but any signing), to our detriment?

Legitimately I can hardly think of a single example. Ryan Papenhuyzen probably, but he was being blocked by the best fullback in the world.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

Carbon copy? 69 tackle breaks compared to 118. No comparison.
One is in his prime, the other 2 or 3 years past his best.



Balance that with line breaks and missed tackles, yeah they're very similar.

Look at the big picture.

Does the big picture take into consideration the 2 vastly different teams each played in? As someone mentioned above Robert Jennings was leading try scorer in the NRL playing with a gun team, then he came to WT and became Exhibit A in the annals of uselessness.

 

[jirskyr]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

This

It gives me flashbacks of Robert Jennings looking good outside Inglis in 2018

With due respect to Mansour, Robert Jennings played one good season ever. Mansour has represented NSW and Australia over the course of several seasons.

 

[Russell]

It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t pay overs.

How does he improve the team? It’s a sideways move at best, that comes with the consequence of slowing the development of our young players. Sure he’ll get metres up the middle for us but he’s not a game breaker, we’ve already got a winger who’s of the same mould but does it all better.

The only positive is possibly getting Laurie early possibly. Mansour will be solid, but nothing special. Would rather have pace and height on the wing.

How does he improve the team? This year we lost 2-3 games (see both south’s games) because teams targeted our inexperienced left wing with success.

If the young players are good enough, they’ll push him out of first grade, same as what happened with Jennings, but Mansour is a big upgrade on Jennings.

Yes, Mbye didn't help crucify Hoffman (he got the blame), when he let in 4 tries did he?

I'm not crucifying Hoffman, he was a development player who was only there because we had no depth in that position.

What I am saying is.....it was not the inexperience of Hoffman that lost the game against Souffs.

It was the inaptitude of Mbye that let in four tries in that game - I would say that is why we lost that game, not the inexperience.

 

[Russell]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

 

[Leck]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

Why would anyone ever wish a player to have injuries, especially one of ours? WTF

Excuse me Mate!

Please point out in my post above, where I have wished Simpkin to have ANY INJURY?

I wait with bated breath - think I will be waiting forever somehow.

Personally I think being a Simpkin fanboy, you have misread what I said.

Mate I read the full thread, and I get your point but that last comment was out of line

Let's chalk it down to poor language

 

[Guest]

It seems that most contributors on here don't really care about the defensive half of the game. There's a reason why Melbourne targeted Grant when they cut the Tigers to ribbons. They knew how fragile he is defensively. Running around like a headless chook disrupts the whole team. I'm happy to have Liddle. He's a natural footballer with a cool head. My only concern is whether he's kept his speed.

 

[kiwitiger]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

Why would anyone ever wish a player to have injuries, especially one of ours? WTF

Throw him in to early and that can happen. Really we can't look at the kids as the answer. Many do but if they start playing week in week out then injuries can happen. Marshall and Liddle being examples. You can put muscle on but ligaments and tendons are not worked on in the gym. They will take time.

 

[cochise]

Pearce hey could it be

Pearce 7
Brooks 6
Douiehi back to 1
and Mbye moving up north?


I would prefer Abbey at 1 than Doueihi. Doueihi is a 13 or 6. Imo.

Doueihi is a centre that may be able to transition to 5/8th

Pearce hey could it be

Pearce 7
Brooks 6
Douiehi back to 1
and Mbye moving up north?


I would prefer Abbey at 1 than Doueihi. Doueihi is a 13 or 6. Imo.

Doueihi is a centre that may be able to transition to 5/8th


He played almost 'all' of his junior footy at 6.

He has barely played 'any' center.

There won't be a transition.

AD is a 6.

Cochise keeps going on about this, but you are 100% right, Douihie himself even said he is a five eighth

So did Curtis Sironen, I think AD will develop into a very good 5/8th but he still has weaknesses that he needs to improve. Im actually more worried about the depth below him than I am AD himself

 

[Russell]

I get it - my poor language is....

"Hopefully not"......really means I hope he does.

Can you send me your decoding book, so I don't make the same mistake again. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

Ah honest question, how many times have we blocked a junior's pathway with another signing (not even specifically an aged signing, but any signing), to our detriment?

Legitimately I can hardly think of a single example. Ryan Papenhuyzen probably, but he was being blocked by the best fullback in the world.

Man , I say sign mansour , if it means we get Laurie . If mansour is playing reggies come June 28, he will surely be asking for a release, and if not , an over qualified backup . I don’t see the naysayers point here . If we could offload Reynolds’ albatross of a contract and not have any freight , near about any contract can be offloaded . We should offer mansour a 2 plus 1 ,which is really a 2 .
I just can’t see the whole “path blocking “ thing . If he’s rubbish , AJ or Talau will take his spot , if he’s better than them , then that’s more wins for us.
The real issue is the roster spot . Whether we want to allocate a further 2 spots to backs . But if Mbye is seriously going to the tweed , or Vegas , than it’s happy days .

 

[Leck]

kind of don't want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin's development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

??? we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is **he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds**. Just watch

Thats crystal ball talk
But ? I would like to know from everyone on the Forum, especially those reluctant to sign McInnes , who do we have that is good enough to play Hooker if Liddle goes down in the 1st few weeks
Or do we just write off our season again because there is always next year

Mate I’m all for McInnes . I just don’t think Liddle is rubbish . And I don’t like it , when people death ride one of our juniors , who has been loyal to us , because they’re all googily eyed over the shiny new toy we just had .

The gap between Grant and Liddle is like the San Andreas Fault. One is a rep and future kangaroo star the other the only chance he will get fora kangaroo jumper was when he played for the Wyong kangaroos

Someone needed to say it

two very different players. Grant is more like Smith and Liddle more like Damien Cook. while Grant controlled games through the middle corridor, Liddle will give decent ball to the halves and allow them to control the game, while he picks his moments. yes Grant is the better player but Liddle will be very very good for us providing Brooks and Doueihi steer the side around the park.

I’m still taking Simpkin over Liddle. How many chances are we going to give Liddle? I reckon this is his last chance, one more injury and it’s all over for him imo. Simpkin will be knocking on the door for a starting spot. Just my two cents

Maybe Simpkin will have as many injuries as Liddle has had - once he starts playing with the big boys.

Hopefully not

Why would anyone ever wish a player to have injuries, especially one of ours? WTF

Throw him in to early and that can happen. Really we can't look at the kids as the answer. Many do but if they start playing week in week out then injuries can happen. Marshall and Liddle being examples. You can put muscle on but ligaments and tendons are not worked on in the gym. They will take time.

Jake will be 20 this year and he should be slowly blooded off the bench in 2021.

He, and we won't know his true potential until we seem him in the middle.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I think most of it is because of Mansour’s age. Mansour is 10 years older than Talau and Kepaoa who are the future, club can’t afford to block their pathways. We’ve done it so many times and it’s come back to bite us

Ah honest question, how many times have we blocked a junior's pathway with another signing (not even specifically an aged signing, but any signing), to our detriment?

Legitimately I can hardly think of a single example. Ryan Papenhuyzen probably, but he was being blocked by the best fullback in the world.

Man , I say sign mansour , if it means we get Laurie . If mansour is playing reggies come June 28, he will surely be asking for a release, and if not , an over qualified backup . I don’t see the naysayers point here . If we could offload Reynolds’ albatross of a contract and not have any freight , near about any contract can be offloaded . We should offer mansour a 2 plus 1 ,which is really a 2 .
I just can’t see the whole “path blocking “ thing . If he’s rubbish , AJ or Talau will take his spot , if he’s better than them , then that’s more wins for us.
The real issue is the roster spot . Whether we want to allocate a further 2 spots to backs . But if Mbye is seriously going to the tweed , or Vegas , than it’s happy days .

Also , if this Mbye for Milford stuff is real , I have no issues with that either . We need flamboyance and they need a steady hand .
If it’s a dogs breakfast , he will surely be on his way to Huddersfield , sooner rather than later anyway.

 

[Speed2burn]

I honestly don't understand why so many of you are panning Mansour?

His stats are good, he's a solid human that keeps his nose out of trouble. He's got a great work ethic, always rips in and he would help mentor our juniors.

If Penrith pays $250-$300k of the freight and we get Laurie too it's a win/win for mine.


**Mansour's stats for 2020**


**Nofa's stats for 2020**


It's almost a carbon copy apart from the tries and Nofa's constant struggles with defense.

It's a no brainer, sign him up if the price is right.

His 2020 stats mean very little. He had a solid season - he was with the best team in the competition who had a mountain of possession and only lose twice all season. His stats from 2019 when Penrith struggled (just like we do) are a lot more telling. 1 try all year.

Again, I don’t think the issue is with him or how he plays, he’ll play solid enough. Issue is he won’t be first grade standard for much longer, Nofa is a very similar winger but better, and there’s a risk of losing him. We don’t need another short winger with bad hands who’s best attribute is his dirty hit ups

This

It gives me flashbacks of Robert Jennings looking good outside Inglis in 2018

With due respect to Mansour, Robert Jennings played one good season ever. Mansour has represented NSW and Australia over the course of several seasons.

Just comparing the situations. Mansour was a brilliant player 5 years ago for sure, I just think injury has slowed him down and last year was playing on the back end of a red hot backline, which Robert Jennings has done at one pint in his career