Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[isaaktigers]

Why not add tackle breaks? 2020 nofo had 119 and mansour 69. Thats a huge stat

Also, dont forget its easier to rack up better stats playing for a better team. If your team is always on the back foot, it aint easy to get the run meters or create line breaks. If Nofo replaced Mansour at penriff this year, his stats would be through the roof

I couldn’t see anything on the website going over it on my phone, was thinking of that.

End of the day, for me id take Nofa over Sauce.

And if we signed sauce for 2 years I’ll also be pissed.

 

[Russell]

I cannot believe people are talking up Momo & criticising Mansour. The critics are saying Mansour is slow I’m sure he will beat Momo in a race to the ball & he is a much stronger runner with the ball in hand.

Why are you comparing a winger only with a centre only?

Apples and oranges.

 

[Harvey]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

McInnes is a solid first grader and I would not complain if we got him.

Josh Reynolds was a great competitor, but paying $700k for a competitor kills your salary cap.

I have not seen McInnes steer a side around the park, be a spark in attack or do anything more skills wise that what is expected of a standard dummy half.

If looking for comparisons I would like him to McCullough, Mahoney or Friend. St George (and particularly their attack) have been terrible for the last few years. Souths punted him in favour of Cook.

He is worth looking at at 400-500k, but if he is looking for more than that move on.

 

[Harvey]

Time to put everything to rest with “statistics”, between Nofa and Sauce.

These have all come from the NRL website.

Firstly we will start with 2020 first.

**Josh Mansour**

2020, played 22 games, 19 won, 2 lost.

Tackles made: 120
Tackles missed: 19
Tackle percentage: 80.64%

Receipts (ran, touched or caught the ball): 487
Total meters: 4003
Average meters: 181
Line breaks: 21

Tries: 12

**David Nofoaluma**

2020, played 20 games, 7 won, 13 lost.

Tackles made: 89
Tackles missed: 33
Tackle percentage: 67.95%

Receipts (ran, touched or caught the ball): 511
Total meters: 3576
Average meters: 178.00
Line breaks: 17

Tries: 17




Now, we will go to 2019 statistics.


**Josh Mansour**

2019, played 19 games, won 9, lost 10.


Tackles made: 129
Tackles missed: 29
Tackle percentage: 75.23%

Receipts (ran, touched or caught the ball): 372
Total meters: 2951
Average meters: 155
Line breaks: 3

Tries: 1


**David Nofoaluma**

2019, played 14, won 6, lost 8.

Tackles made: 101
Tackles missed: 23
Tackle percentage: 80.91%

Receipts (ran, touched or caught the ball): 344
Total meters: 2170
Average meters: 155
Line breaks: 6

Tries: 8


Other things to put into perspective that people are saying are their age, which is true, when you get older, the slower you get.

Other thing also to remember is that Nofa is a tiger, but by me looking at these statistics, he would be a nobody at any other club.. while at the tigers he’s the #1 fan for most people that support us, but also for the people that don’t support us.

Would I take Mansour for a year? 100%.

The reason why is to get a #1 in the fullback in the trade, but also for multiple people to fight out for spots on the wing.

For me, I’d love to see a few games of Tamou doing the first hit up, Nofa second hit up, Mansour third hit up, Fourth Liddle quick dummy half scoop, passing to Lucy Leilua to Roberts to score..

But not only that, seeing dirty hit ups from sauce and Nofa is the big one id like to see, getting us out of trouble when we’re close to the try line under pressure trying to get out.


Alright, I also did 2018 to give a 3 year statistic on both of them.

**Josh Mansour**

2018, played 15, won 10, lost 5.

Tackles made: 86
Tackles missed: 21
Tackle percentage: 77.24%

Receipts (ran, toughed or caught the ball): 271
Total meters: 2166
Average meters: 144
Line breaks: 5

Tries: 8

**David Nofoaluma**

2018, played 18, won 9, lost 9.

Tackles made: 89
Tackles missed: 27
Tackle percentage: 68.27%

Receipts (ran, touched or caught the ball): 394
Total meters: 2716
Average meters: 150
Line breaks: 7

Tries: 6

I didn’t mind doing this all, probably gave a good insight on how they played and what player they are.

The saddest thing about these stats is that it shows how lazy our forwards are and the amount of dirty work Nofa has to do out of our own end. Even where Mansour has played more games, Nofa has almost made as many if not more hit-ups than him.

Someone needs to put a rocket up our forwards and have them getting back after the opposition kicks and tacking the 2nd and 3rd hit-ups, not expecting the backs to do the work and then be ready to attack.

 

[Rowdy12]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the competitiveness

 

[Russell]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the competitiveness

Name?

 

[Geo]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the competitiveness

Name?

Reynolds..gone and forgotten already..geez..

 

[Russell]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the competitiveness

Name?

Reynolds..gone and forgotten already..geez..

That was just that "Riff Scumbag" being stupid with money.

Good buy at 450k - absolutely stupid and crippling buy with what we shelled out.

Will never be forgotten - how could you think that Geo?

 

[gregjm87]

For mine there is a lot of talk around players whom (even if they could add something to the club) we don't really need (or want) such as Josh Mansour. Or players whom we are little to no chance of signing such as both Crichtons. I hope we are pursuing these fanciful signings, if all it does is drive their market value up for their current clubs. On that note there is a young bloke down in Melbourne who I would like the club to target.
Jack Howarth is an 18 year old backrower who has absolutely dominated at every level. He is first grade ready but stuck behind 2 international players. He will be a 10 year origin backrower once he gets into first grade. An 'overs' contract offered to him now would represent value in the coming years, similar to Titans signing big Tino just before he broke out. I hope we chase him hard, even if we don't get him, ensure the Storm don't resign him on the cheap.

 

[BAGNF05]

For mine there is a lot of talk around players whom (even if they could add something to the club) we don't really need (or want) such as Josh Mansour. Or players whom we are little to no chance of signing such as both Crichtons. I hope we are pursuing these fanciful signings, if all it does is drive their market value up for their current clubs. On that note there is a young bloke down in Melbourne who I would like the club to target.
Jack Howarth is an 18 year old backrower who has absolutely dominated at every level. He is first grade ready but stuck behind 2 international players. He will be a 10 year origin backrower once he gets into first grade. An 'overs' contract offered to him now would represent value in the coming years, similar to Titans signing big Tino just before he broke out. I hope we chase him hard, even if we don't get him, ensure the Storm don't resign him on the cheap.

Good post. And the million dollar question for Pascoe in one of his #asktheboss, Why do we have little to no hope of signing either of the Crichton’s? What needs to change?

 

[sleeve]

I doubt Mansour or McInnis will be Tigers.Nobodys that dumb not to see these positions are not our main concern,.

Maybe Mansour but don’t agree about McInnes. Not only is he interchangeable between Hooker and Lock, he is competitive, passionate, a leader and hates to lose. Sounds like Madge is dumb enough to see he would be a quality addition.

I like McInnes,but we have Liddle who if overcomes injury is good,then Simkin with huge wraps,who may be brilliant.Meanwhile no FB,Doeihi who has only played half a game in grade ,is not quick and playing in a key position,2 centres that do not have contracts for 2022,depending on how they perform.We deffinitley need more attach around the ruck to keep opposition forwards on the back foot.To me the priority is a 5/8, FB, and another strike back.As for Madge and talks,for all we know it couid be nothing,and i doubt he would leave Saints.

 

[Tcat]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I have no intel or anything like that, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Liddle wearing blue and white in the next year or so.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the c

No comparison

 

[sleeve]

I doubt Mansour or McInnis will be Tigers.Nobodys that dumb not to see these positions are not our main concern,.

Maybe Mansour but don’t agree about McInnes. Not only is he interchangeable between Hooker and Lock, he is competitive, passionate, a leader and hates to lose. Sounds like Madge is dumb enough to see he would be a quality addition.

Agree he is a quality hooker, thats not the argument. I said in post That is not our main concern, not that madge is dumb of course he knows McInnes is good we all do,but he will not fix our problems,we are short back up halves,the ones we have are questionable,and our backline is a shambles.Who in our backline outside of Brooks get a contract over $500,000 a year,?

 

[nrlsurvivor]

I doubt Mansour or McInnis will be Tigers.Nobodys that dumb not to see these positions are not our main concern,.

Maybe Mansour but don’t agree about McInnes. Not only is he interchangeable between Hooker and Lock, he is competitive, passionate, a leader and hates to lose. Sounds like Madge is dumb enough to see he would be a quality addition.

I like McInnes,but we have Liddle who if overcomes injury is good,then Simkin with huge wraps,who may be brilliant.Meanwhile no FB,Doeihi who has only played half a game in grade ,is not quick and playing in a key position,2 centres that do not have contracts for 2022,depending on how they perform.We deffinitley need more attach around the ruck to keep opposition forwards on the back foot.To me the priority is a 5/8, FB, and another strike back.As for Madge and talks,for all we know it couid be nothing,and i doubt he would leave Saints.

Tannous looks like he could be our long term 5/8 option

 

[sleeve]

I doubt Mansour or McInnis will be Tigers.Nobodys that dumb not to see these positions are not our main concern,.

Maybe Mansour but don’t agree about McInnes. Not only is he interchangeable between Hooker and Lock, he is competitive, passionate, a leader and hates to lose. Sounds like Madge is dumb enough to see he would be a quality addition.

I like McInnes,but we have Liddle who if overcomes injury is good,then Simkin with huge wraps,who may be brilliant.Meanwhile no FB,Doeihi who has only played half a game in grade ,is not quick and playing in a key position,2 centres that do not have contracts for 2022,depending on how they perform.We deffinitley need more attach around the ruck to keep opposition forwards on the back foot.To me the priority is a 5/8, FB, and another strike back.As for Madge and talks,for all we know it couid be nothing,and i doubt he would leave Saints.

Tannous looks like he could be our long term 5/8 option

I hope so ,he looks very good, i mentioned him earlier but was shot down.

 

[tigerap]

For mine there is a lot of talk around players whom (even if they could add something to the club) we don't really need (or want) such as Josh Mansour. Or players whom we are little to no chance of signing such as both Crichtons. I hope we are pursuing these fanciful signings, if all it does is drive their market value up for their current clubs. On that note there is a young bloke down in Melbourne who I would like the club to target.
Jack Howarth is an 18 year old backrower who has absolutely dominated at every level. He is first grade ready but stuck behind 2 international players. He will be a 10 year origin backrower once he gets into first grade. An 'overs' contract offered to him now would represent value in the coming years, similar to Titans signing big Tino just before he broke out. I hope we chase him hard, even if we don't get him, ensure the Storm don't resign him on the cheap.

Good post. And the million dollar question for Pascoe in one of his #asktheboss, Why do we have little to no hope of signing either of the Crichton’s? What needs to change?

I can answer that for you....until we become a club that regularly features in finals footy, players won’t want to come here unless a) they get retirement money and do little to justify it (packer, mbye, Reynolds) or b) are looking for a FG shot (Laurie, Blore).....

 

[Rowdy12]

Sounds like Madge isn't sold on Liddle either.

I'd take McInnes over most 9s in the comp, the guy is the ultimate competitor.

I remember when we spent big on a 5/8 who was ‘the ultimate competitor’

Too bad neither have the skill to go with the c


No comparison

They are actually very comparable. 2 guys in crucial positions who’s best attribute is ‘they try really hard’

 

[sleeve]

If we use our money wisely and not try to buy every forward that comes on the market we can buy anyone.JAC was wise,as a winger he looked at our backline and realised it would be a tough gig'.If we buy or manufacture a good halves combo(maybe Laurie at 5/8).Pay overs for Crichton and show future gains in the backs to him as well as Tamou,Bore,and Laurie already here. we must be a chance.If not theres a ton of talent off contract in 2022

 

[Chainlink]

I think we are waiting to confirm Nofa contract. If we re-sign Nofa then no need for Mansour. But if we can’t strike a deal with Nofa then signing a subsidised Mansour to replace wouldn’t be worst outcome.

I like Nofa, but I like the club sticking to good salary decisions better.