Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@WestsJuniors said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293113) said:
@WestsJuniors said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292712) said:
Is Michael Tannous a Half or a Hooker...?

Schoolboy Cup Highlights

https://youtu.be/Am8FYKjl3Pc

i also noticed a few Tigers juniors in the opposition teams Holy Cross and Westfields, hope they can tackle in future they are the ones missing them

I hope we’ve got a good defensive coach then, these kids look like they’ve never met each other. Turnstiles galore.
 
Lol.. wiki
Stephen Crichton is a Samoan professional rugby league footballer who plays as a centre for the Penrith Panthers in the NRL. Crichton recently signed a contract with the Wests Tigers until the end of 2024. Wikipedia

Hope its true..
 
@Eca said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293178) said:
Lol.. wiki
Stephen Crichton is a Samoan professional rugby league footballer who plays as a centre for the Penrith Panthers in the NRL. Crichton recently signed a contract with the Wests Tigers until the end of 2024. Wikipedia

Hope its true..

Edit history - think its someone randoms pulling legs
![ccc81883-6be4-4a4e-826f-75f22a597875-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1610677070241-ccc81883-6be4-4a4e-826f-75f22a597875-image.png)
 
@Eca said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293178) said:
Lol.. wiki
Stephen Crichton is a Samoan professional rugby league footballer who plays as a centre for the Penrith Panthers in the NRL. Crichton recently signed a contract with the Wests Tigers until the end of 2024. Wikipedia

Hope its true..

Lol, that’ll get those bogan penrith supporters spitting out their teeth
 
@Eca said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293178) said:
Lol.. wiki
Stephen Crichton is a Samoan professional rugby league footballer who plays as a centre for the Penrith Panthers in the NRL. Crichton recently signed a contract with the Wests Tigers until the end of 2024. Wikipedia

Hope its true..

Lol who from the forum has been on Wikipedia 😂
 
@Speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293182) said:
Lol, that’ll get those bogan penrith supporters spitting out their teeth



For every tooth they spit out there will be 6 souffs supporters fighting over it
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293161) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293082) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293072) said:
As the article said severely doubt we sign Crichton. Wouldn’t even make much sense as we’d be paying Mbye big dollars still (unless he left) and we’ve got Laurie but nothing wrong with making Ivan pay a few extra bucks for him ?

**Only option would be Laurie 5:8, Doueihi centre and Crichton fullback.**... which honestly would be pretty good lol

Where would that leave Leilua and Roberts? I know Roberts has only signed for a year, I guess they are expecting him to fail or maybe they’ll punt Leilua? Anyway it’s all just speculation from some newspaper nerd.


JTJ & BJ are both on club options for 2022 so no commitment to either.

EDIT: Many have pointed this out, should read before posting.

Roberts isn't technically a club member option, if he meets certain KPI's that triggers a second year automatically.
 
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293190) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293161) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293082) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293072) said:
As the article said severely doubt we sign Crichton. Wouldn’t even make much sense as we’d be paying Mbye big dollars still (unless he left) and we’ve got Laurie but nothing wrong with making Ivan pay a few extra bucks for him ?

**Only option would be Laurie 5:8, Doueihi centre and Crichton fullback.**... which honestly would be pretty good lol

Where would that leave Leilua and Roberts? I know Roberts has only signed for a year, I guess they are expecting him to fail or maybe they’ll punt Leilua? Anyway it’s all just speculation from some newspaper nerd.


JTJ & BJ are both on club options for 2022 so no commitment to either.

EDIT: Many have pointed this out, should read before posting.

Roberts isn't technically a club member option, if he meets certain KPI's that triggers a second year automatically.

Do you know if his 2 year will be worth more money? Surely if he comes out and kills it he will be entitled to more than a minimum contract?
 
@Eca said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293189) said:
Its been edited again.. funny stuff

oh my lord hahahaha
![0ae74da8-9892-46c3-8cb9-56ca1c31ed88-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1610679044805-0ae74da8-9892-46c3-8cb9-56ca1c31ed88-image.png)
 
@AdelaideTiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293191) said:
@cochise said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293190) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293161) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293082) said:
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293072) said:
As the article said severely doubt we sign Crichton. Wouldn’t even make much sense as we’d be paying Mbye big dollars still (unless he left) and we’ve got Laurie but nothing wrong with making Ivan pay a few extra bucks for him ?

**Only option would be Laurie 5:8, Doueihi centre and Crichton fullback.**... which honestly would be pretty good lol

Where would that leave Leilua and Roberts? I know Roberts has only signed for a year, I guess they are expecting him to fail or maybe they’ll punt Leilua? Anyway it’s all just speculation from some newspaper nerd.


JTJ & BJ are both on club options for 2022 so no commitment to either.

EDIT: Many have pointed this out, should read before posting.

Roberts isn't technically a club member option, if he meets certain KPI's that triggers a second year automatically.

Do you know if his 2 year will be worth more money? Surely if he comes out and kills it he will be entitled to more than a minimum contract?

It's my impression that it's an upgrade.
 
Re: Crichton, given he was born in Apia, wonder what sway the WT Somoan connection would have:
- Nofa
- Chee Kam
- BJ
- LL
- Blore
-Musgrove
- Kepaoa
- Mikaele
- Talau
- Stefano
- Kei

Chrichton played with TT, Stefano, AJ & Kei in the Somoan NSW u18 team in 2018:
https://m.facebook.com/rlsnswchapter/posts/476802856155571
 
@Speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293122) said:
@DGilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293083) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292972) said:
@Roar_Power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292868) said:
@WestsJuniors said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292712) said:
Is Michael Tannous a Half or a Hooker...?

Schoolboy Cup Highlights

https://youtu.be/Am8FYKjl3Pc

Hard not to get excited about this fella. Lightning acceleration, a good step and cut out pass.

The defence in that clip is atrocious bordering on comical.

...is what every boomer says when watching schoolboy highlights. If you only watched NRL highlights and never the game, the defence would look awful too.

I remember reading the the same comments on Angus Crichton and Cam Murray's highlights - maybe they didn't just look good cause of bad defence when they ended gup playing Origin 2 years out of school

Are you really comparing schoolboys defense to NRL?

By the way there’s been plenty of kids that have looked like Joey Johns and Greg Inglis at school footy only to end up playing bush footy in Wagga Wagga.

But yes can only play whats infront of you.

10/10 strawman well done.

I am not comparing schoolboy to NRL but I am saying that if you only watch plays where the defense looks back then of course that's how you'll perceive it. My frustration came at the fact that you hear the 'hes only good because of bad defense' nonsense every time any schoolboy highlights get put online. So tedious
 
@YesHeCheeKam said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292703) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292665) said:
@Snake said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@tony-soprano said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@Snake said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
If that’s a 4 year deal with the 4th not as a club option, we’re idiots.

Club loyalty is one thing taking the team to a top 4 finish is another . With the Chairman getting involved tells me the club has learnt nothing , would any top 4 club sign Nofo to a 4 yr deal someone that has no idea how to defend … my prediction he will be playing Reggie’s in 2022 .

Cry me a river

There will be a lot of that this season

Tears of joy


I can't fatham how we got suckered in to keeping Nofo for another 4 seasons after his 28th birthday. For much of his contract at the Tigers, despite his heart, he was already overpaid and people thought he didn't deserve what he was getting.

Now we sign him for another 4 years (plus the 1 he already has, so 5 years). 2 Further years to his 30th birthday was the right deal, 3 was being generous, and 4 years Nofo + manager have taken us for a ride. Be prepared to have another 500-600k sitting in reserve grade in 3 years time, or be prepared to have a youngstar (say Fitzgibbon) have their path blocked by this decision.

The salary cap implications this has later on is significant and people who think this is a good re-signing can't think long term. Give me AJ & Talau on the wing and put that extra 600k to geting Harry Grant.

Well don't think the $600k a season is correct, elite wingers usually demand around $450k/$500k a season.
He would also most likely qualify for most of the term relating to new contract of $200k shared salary relief for long term players and one club players.

So lets split the difference and estimate he is on $475k.

Now lets compare that to some current players we have
Mybe - $950k / Packer $700k / Doeughi $600k

Do you think being the best player in 2020 that the new deal in fair in comparison to $ those listed above? (I do)

I agree maybe the extended terms if 4 years is longer than required as most players recently have signed 2 or 3 year deals, but looks like they made an exception for Nofo because he is a 1 club player, also think that's reasonable, also considering it's his last contract.

last year i believe is a club option, in the meantime he still has to compete against the younger guys coming through to maintain his position and $ that's the flip side over a longer period of time.

I think if you also asked the majority of forum members we prefer that we retain our 1 club loyal players just like us supporters that remain loyal during a finals drought.

I don't mind Lee getting involved on a rare occasions like this as long as it yields results and does not become a habit.
Really up to Pascoe/Hartigan/Madge to ensure the salary and talent lines up against results.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293206) said:
@YesHeCheeKam said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292703) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292665) said:
@Snake said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@tony-soprano said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@Snake said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours said:
If that’s a 4 year deal with the 4th not as a club option, we’re idiots.

Club loyalty is one thing taking the team to a top 4 finish is another . With the Chairman getting involved tells me the club has learnt nothing , would any top 4 club sign Nofo to a 4 yr deal someone that has no idea how to defend … my prediction he will be playing Reggie’s in 2022 .

Cry me a river

There will be a lot of that this season

Tears of joy


I can't fatham how we got suckered in to keeping Nofo for another 4 seasons after his 28th birthday. For much of his contract at the Tigers, despite his heart, he was already overpaid and people thought he didn't deserve what he was getting.

Now we sign him for another 4 years (plus the 1 he already has, so 5 years). 2 Further years to his 30th birthday was the right deal, 3 was being generous, and 4 years Nofo + manager have taken us for a ride. Be prepared to have another 500-600k sitting in reserve grade in 3 years time, or be prepared to have a youngstar (say Fitzgibbon) have their path blocked by this decision.

The salary cap implications this has later on is significant and people who think this is a good re-signing can't think long term. Give me AJ & Talau on the wing and put that extra 600k to geting Harry Grant.

Well don't think the $600k a season is correct, elite wingers usually demand around $450k/$500k a season.
He would also most likely qualify for most of the term relating to new contract of $200k shared salary relief for long term players and one club players.

So lets split the difference and estimate he is on $475k.

Now lets compare that to some current players we have
Mybe - $950k / Packer $700k / Doeughi $600k

Do you think being the best player in 2020 that the new deal in fair in comparison to $ those listed above? (I do)

I agree maybe the extended terms if 4 years is longer than required as most players recently have signed 2 or 3 year deals, but looks like they made an exception for Nofo because he is a 1 club player, also think that's reasonable, also considering it's his last contract.

last year i believe is a club option, in the meantime he still has to compete against the younger guys coming through to maintain his position and $ that's the flip side over a longer period of time.

I think if you also asked the majority of forum members we prefer that we retain our 1 club loyal players just like us supporters that remain loyal during a finals drought.

I don't mind Lee getting involved on a rare occasions like this as long as it yields results and does not become a habit.
Really up to Pascoe/Hartigan/Madge to ensure the salary and talent lines up against results.



Well put.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293162) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293087) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293064) said:
JAMES HOOPERSource: FOX SPORTS

The Roosters are pushing to have Suaalii play prior to August 1.Source: Supplied

The war between Wests Tigers and Penrith has a new chapter with the joint venture club discussing making a major play to sign off-contract young gun Stephen Crichton for 2022

Ever since Panthers coach Ivan Cleary walked out on the final two years of his Tigers contract and doubled down by blowing kisses at a fan last season, relations between the two clubs have been about as cordial as the Australian and Indian cricket teams this summer.

The Crichton contract scenario has been on-going since the end of last year when the Panthers claimed coach Cleary had a handshake agreement for the Dally M centre to remain at the foot of the mountains.



The handshake hullabaloo has since been torpedoed meaning the Wests Tigers are currently crunching the numbers with a view to making Crichton a massive offer.

Here’s where it gets interesting. The Panthers have heard the Tigers intend to make Crichton an offer to play fullback in 2022.

Cha-ching. We all know the difference between fullback money and centre money.

Where does this leave Daine Laurie, the young gun Penrith fullback the Tigers have also signed for 2022?

The Tigers have discussed a plan where Laurie goes to five-eighth, Adam Doueihi goes into the centres and Crichton becomes fullback.

The reality is Panthers local junior Crichton is probably a snow flake’s chance in hell to want to leave his mates and his junior club out west.

Bennett won't coach Maroons in 2021

0:30

But what the Tigers offer will do is make the Panthers sharpen their pencil even more in relation to Crichton’s new contract.

The other silver lining may be the Panthers entertain releasing Laurie to join the Concord club this season.

However it shakes out, there’ll be no shortage of fireworks when the Tigers host Penrith at Leichhardt Oval in round 13 and then vice versa at Panthers Stadium in round 25.

The Panthers remain confident of retaining of NSW State of Origin squad trio Crichton, Isaah Yeo and Jarome Luai before the start of the season.



Now that's what I'm talking about
Kiss that Ivan

The real issue in this article is the Roosters pushing to make Suaali eligible for the NRL. Who would have thought? This is a big d to make for the NRL as it is potentially precedent setting.


I like bashing Roosters as much as the next guy, but having a blanket rule of no footy until a certain age is ridiculous. Massive difference between a prop or a winger etc etc. I heard a podcast talking about this and they interviewed Jordan Rankin who is the youngest ever to play NRL and he spoke convincingly of how underprepared he was physically and mentally and what damage it did. The difference between Jordan Rankin (even at his peak) and Suaali right now is immense. Suaali is massive compared to Rankin.

Good post. My issue is the appearance, whether correct or incorrect, that a powerful club will receive an advantage if this is approved. If other young players of similar talent and age emerge, why wouldn't you sign with the Roosters if you know the NRL will approve it. Will the approval be one off or across the board?
 
@DGilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293203) said:
@Speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293122) said:
@DGilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293083) said:
@BAGNF05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292972) said:
@Roar_Power said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292868) said:
@WestsJuniors said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1292712) said:
Is Michael Tannous a Half or a Hooker...?

Schoolboy Cup Highlights

https://youtu.be/Am8FYKjl3Pc

Hard not to get excited about this fella. Lightning acceleration, a good step and cut out pass.

The defence in that clip is atrocious bordering on comical.

...is what every boomer says when watching schoolboy highlights. If you only watched NRL highlights and never the game, the defence would look awful too.

I remember reading the the same comments on Angus Crichton and Cam Murray's highlights - maybe they didn't just look good cause of bad defence when they ended gup playing Origin 2 years out of school

Are you really comparing schoolboys defense to NRL?

By the way there’s been plenty of kids that have looked like Joey Johns and Greg Inglis at school footy only to end up playing bush footy in Wagga Wagga.

But yes can only play whats infront of you.

10/10 strawman well done.

I am not comparing schoolboy to NRL but I am saying that if you only watch plays where the defense looks back then of course that's how you'll perceive it. My frustration came at the fact that you hear the 'hes only good because of bad defense' nonsense every time any schoolboy highlights get put online. So tedious

Yeah I hear you. Don’t think I’m having a go at you, but people are cautious of how good players are at junior level because they’ve been burnt many times before from expectation.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293214) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293162) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293087) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293064) said:
JAMES HOOPERSource: FOX SPORTS

The Roosters are pushing to have Suaalii play prior to August 1.Source: Supplied

The war between Wests Tigers and Penrith has a new chapter with the joint venture club discussing making a major play to sign off-contract young gun Stephen Crichton for 2022

Ever since Panthers coach Ivan Cleary walked out on the final two years of his Tigers contract and doubled down by blowing kisses at a fan last season, relations between the two clubs have been about as cordial as the Australian and Indian cricket teams this summer.

The Crichton contract scenario has been on-going since the end of last year when the Panthers claimed coach Cleary had a handshake agreement for the Dally M centre to remain at the foot of the mountains.



The handshake hullabaloo has since been torpedoed meaning the Wests Tigers are currently crunching the numbers with a view to making Crichton a massive offer.

Here’s where it gets interesting. The Panthers have heard the Tigers intend to make Crichton an offer to play fullback in 2022.

Cha-ching. We all know the difference between fullback money and centre money.

Where does this leave Daine Laurie, the young gun Penrith fullback the Tigers have also signed for 2022?

The Tigers have discussed a plan where Laurie goes to five-eighth, Adam Doueihi goes into the centres and Crichton becomes fullback.

The reality is Panthers local junior Crichton is probably a snow flake’s chance in hell to want to leave his mates and his junior club out west.

Bennett won't coach Maroons in 2021

0:30

But what the Tigers offer will do is make the Panthers sharpen their pencil even more in relation to Crichton’s new contract.

The other silver lining may be the Panthers entertain releasing Laurie to join the Concord club this season.

However it shakes out, there’ll be no shortage of fireworks when the Tigers host Penrith at Leichhardt Oval in round 13 and then vice versa at Panthers Stadium in round 25.

The Panthers remain confident of retaining of NSW State of Origin squad trio Crichton, Isaah Yeo and Jarome Luai before the start of the season.



Now that's what I'm talking about
Kiss that Ivan

The real issue in this article is the Roosters pushing to make Suaali eligible for the NRL. Who would have thought? This is a big d to make for the NRL as it is potentially precedent setting.


I like bashing Roosters as much as the next guy, but having a blanket rule of no footy until a certain age is ridiculous. Massive difference between a prop or a winger etc etc. I heard a podcast talking about this and they interviewed Jordan Rankin who is the youngest ever to play NRL and he spoke convincingly of how underprepared he was physically and mentally and what damage it did. The difference between Jordan Rankin (even at his peak) and Suaali right now is immense. Suaali is massive compared to Rankin.

Good post. My issue is the appearance, whether correct or incorrect, that a powerful club will receive an advantage if this is approved. If other young players of similar talent and age emerge, why wouldn't you sign with the Roosters if you know the NRL will approve it. Will the approval be one off or across the board?

Once the precedent has been set no going back one would think ,IMO this is a bad move as these guys are man mountains and young bodies are just not developed enough to cope .. well and good to cope mentally but the physical side is an issue !
 
@frullens said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1293202) said:
Re: Crichton, given he was born in Apia, wonder what sway the WT Somoan connection would have:
- Nofa
- Chee Kam
- BJ
- LL
- Blore
-Musgrove
- Kepaoa
- Mikaele
- Talau
- Stefano
- Kei

Chrichton played with TT, Stefano, AJ & Kei in the Somoan NSW u18 team in 2018:
https://m.facebook.com/rlsnswchapter/posts/476802856155571

Nice spot. I hope WT brand themselves as the place where all Samoans want to go, similar to the Canberra-England connection. Another good example are The Warriors. A lot of players choose them because people like Ruben Wiki and RTS are there. They feel they will be comfortable because the club is a good match for their upbringing.
 

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