Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@tigertownsfs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395549) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395547) said:
@tigertownsfs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395544) said:
I love brooks but we all need to move on. Bring in Pearce for 2 or 3 years and develop another half. Brooks is a confidence player who needs to play in a strong team or in a weak comp (super league).

Agreed. Cut Moses and Brooks next year, regardless of what we have to pay elsewhere. We just have to move on. I’d seriously consider Pearce or Johnson, or even both on short term deals

It’s not like we have great prospects at 6/7 that would be blocked by Pearce/Johnson. We need some experience and leadership in the halves.

We just need a lot more leaders, particularly in those positions. Look at the knights and sharks record without those 2 players, they’re down at the bottom of the barrel with us
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group
 
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395556) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Pascoe hair needs to go for starts

He gives boris a run for his money for best 247 bed hair look
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395556) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Do u see Morris wanting to come here and ruin whatever respect he has in the coaching world though that’s the big question! I strongly believe we can become a great club but not a lot of coaches/players want to come and ruin there careers. It’s hard to admit that this club I’ve loved forever is in a position where I can truly say we are in all sorts but it’s true. Jesus himself would struggle to get us out of the rut we have been in for the past 10 years!!
 
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395558) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395556) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Do u see Morris wanting to come here and ruin whatever respect he has in the coaching world though that’s the big question! I strongly believe we can become a great club but not a lot of coaches/players want to come and ruin there careers. It’s hard to admit that this club I’ve loved forever is in a position where I can truly say we are in all sorts but it’s true. Jesus himself would struggle to get us out of the rut we have been in for the past 10 years!!

Even Moses walked away
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395550) said:
@tigertownsfs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395544) said:
I love brooks but we all need to move on. Bring in Pearce for 2 or 3 years and develop another half. Brooks is a confidence player who needs to play in a strong team or in a weak comp (super league).

Agree with moving past brooks but don't think Pearce is the guy, he's been pretty average last few years. Johnson has been playing much better but he's not exactly a game managing halfback either, plays more like a 5/8

Tigers will continue sticking with brooks though he will probably retire here lol. He's been playing better but he's just got no voice out there, he's no leader but he wants to control the team.

I’ve never met Brooks but he looks like a guy who’s been told he needs to be the “leader” a d says the right things in the press like “this is my team” etc but is just not a natural leader. From what little I’ve seen of Hastings he might have that leadership instinct and douhie has that as well but jury is out on whether those two have the talent to make it to elite status. At least with Pearce/Johnson you will get halves that have played at the top and succeeded. I wish there was another option that was 5 years younger but we just can’t attract that talent in their prime. Medium term we will have to develop that internally but short term our only option is to bring in some experience where if we can get a Couple of decent years out of them we can get some success that helps us break out of this losing mentality
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395556) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

John Morris or Shane Flanagan I would prefer. Maguire is stuck in the dark ages and to be honest it concerns me how safe the club supposedly consider him. Like I get his message at half time on the weekend but the message is clearly never getting through. Would like to see movements wether it’s coaching or playing sooner rather than later
 
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

The only coach at current would be Flannigan with Morris as assistant..
I think he would have some pull power but in saying that I thought Madge would too :face_palm:
 
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395563) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

The only coach at current would be Flannigan with Morris as assistant..
I think he would have some pull power but in saying that I thought Madge would too :face_palm:

I’ve had faith in madge through all this but it’s getting bloody hard. The blame can’t be thrown completely on him he’s not playing the game but some of the blame must fall on his shoulders!! The appointment of flannigan as a coach would be a good one and so would Morris I just don’t see them wanting to come here. It’s not like we have talent lining up that they can bring through.
 
Why all this talk about a new coach? Maguire will not walk away from his $500,000 per year contract. Besides that Lee M has stated that Maguire is staying at least until his contract time is completed.
 
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.
 
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395558) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395556) said:
@carltonleach said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395554) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395552) said:
@hsvjones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395536) said:
I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Do u see Morris wanting to come here and ruin whatever respect he has in the coaching world though that’s the big question! I strongly believe we can become a great club but not a lot of coaches/players want to come and ruin there careers. It’s hard to admit that this club I’ve loved forever is in a position where I can truly say we are in all sorts but it’s true. Jesus himself would struggle to get us out of the rut we have been in for the past 10 years!!

I think Morris would come here for sure. He knows Sheens, and I believe they'd work well together. It would be worth asking the question.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395569) said:
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395574) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395569) said:
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

I was gonna say he definitely won more than 6 games. Not to mention the players loved him. Wonder how many of our players “love” playing under madge
 
@tigertownsfs said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395544) said:
I love brooks but we all need to move on. Bring in Pearce for 2 or 3 years and develop another half. Brooks is a confidence player who needs to play in a strong team or in a weak comp (super league).

That doesn't sound as bad as people think and the other day I would of called you mad.
however he still has plenty left in the tank and can control a game. He also has the contacts in the game to help get other players to join. we cannot go any worse.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395574) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395569) said:
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395582) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395574) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395569) said:
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

Things happen pretty quickly in rugby league. A couple more blow outs and hell be gonski i reckon.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395586) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395582) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395574) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1395569) said:
Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

Things happen pretty quickly in rugby league. A couple more blow outs and hell be gonski i reckon.

Be interesting to see what happens. After we play Souths we play a lot of easier teams so that might help him, if we start getting flogged by then though who knows.

Think building a better roster is the area of most concern and we are slowly improving in that area, young guys will keep improving and who knows how those English fellas will do. Hartigan is a big help in that regard
 

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