Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[yeahcaz]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

 

[JC99]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

 

[F.O.S 0]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

 

[tony soprano]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

You think so I think the players have been duds

 

[yeahcaz]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

No one thinks Gold Coast will be top 4, ever. There was top 8 rumblings at the beginning of the year but that’s it. Plus the Titans actually played for one half and did their scoring against 13 men. There’s really no comparison

 

[the_third]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

spot on.

But I could be a Qld rep at this point hahahahaha

 

[carltonleach]

Why all this talk about a new coach? Maguire will not walk away from his $500,000 per year contract. Besides that Lee M has stated that Maguire is staying at least until his contract time is completed.

Just discussing mate not saying he’s guna leave or get the sack. Just wishful thinking that we can get out of this and what it would take really.

 

[TigerVinnie]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

because "hAve yOu sEEn hoW mAnY pLayErs the TiGeRs lEt gO?"

We have always been a media clickbait, easy to kick a dog whilst its down. Media (fox league especially) wanted a cinderalla story with Gold Coast based on all they invested with the documentary, so not mentioning they have been just as terrible as us - is just pulling cotton wool over their eyes. Instead it's easier to shift to another 'journo' going through the list of players we let go, with a tone of voice as if they just discovered it

 

[Tim Sheens]

I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Do u see Morris wanting to come here and ruin whatever respect he has in the coaching world though that’s the big question! I strongly believe we can become a great club but not a lot of coaches/players want to come and ruin there careers. It’s hard to admit that this club I’ve loved forever is in a position where I can truly say we are in all sorts but it’s true. Jesus himself would struggle to get us out of the rut we have been in for the past 10 years!!

I don't know if Morris is the answer, but almost certain he would jump at the chance to take our WT on. I am though much more sure that Maguire is further behind Jesus and Morris in being able to get us out of the deepening rut.

Without change I fear our WT could keep falling on to our lowest ebb, whereas confident the flow will be upwards upon a new coach being appointed.

 

[JC99]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

You think so I think the players have been duds

If you look at the players we've signed after hartigan got here I'd argue most of them are pretty good, albeit most of them very young.

 

[Goanna57]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

because "hAve yOu sEEn hoW mAnY pLayErs the TiGeRs lEt gO?"

We have always been a media clickbait, easy to kick a dog whilst its down. Media (fox league especially) wanted a cinderalla story with Gold Coast based on all they invested with the documentary, so not mentioning they have been just as terrible as us - is just pulling cotton wool over their eyes. Instead it's easier to shift to another 'journo' going through the list of players we let go, with a tone of voice as if they just discovered it

Mate the truth is no one has been as terrible as us over a ten year period. As a club we continue to have massive problems,ground hog day for ten years is it any wonder we get bashed in the media,we just keep asking for it

 

[Spartan117]

The Weekend against the best club of the last Decade + was heartbreaking...

The failures of this club have been over decade in the making.

Attitude
Talent and Skills
Club perception by non Tigers fans

This impacts our Recruitment and retention.

Madge/Hartigan/ Lee H are doing great to turn this ship around. Sheens and Noddy will help.

We need to Hold our Nerve and be patient.

 

[jrtiger]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

they're not a Sydney club. simple. we've also been making the same mistakes since 2011. the Gold Coast are deadset horrendous but they've made the 8 more recently than us and can actually attract top line talent. more people care about the tigers, more viewers and readers talking about us as opposed to the Titans.

 

[tony soprano]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

You think so I think the players have been duds

If you look at the players we've signed after hartigan got here I'd argue most of them are pretty good, albeit most of them very young.

I’m starting to think hartigan been another dud Pascoe signing

 

[Zach]

Man, why are so many of you bandwagoning the mentality that this club would "kill" a career all of a sudden? stop.

Coaches, experienced or not, elite or not, would kill to come here and try their hand to get us out of this 10year dump. OK, maybe not the likes of well established coaches like Bellamy or Trent, why would they of course.

But this club is desirable. It has an insane amount of potential, history, wealth, and a flourishing junior/scouting system improving every season.

IMO, what we need, is a coach with flair and character. Someone who shoots from the hip and is some what of a maverick. Someone who isnt afraid to ruffle feathers on a player level, but on a board level too. I would love that. As much as i admire madge for what hes done in his career, i actually think we need someone to disrupt the way we all think this club is, if that makes sense.

 

[jrtiger]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

You think so I think the players have been duds

If you look at the players we've signed after hartigan got here I'd argue most of them are pretty good, albeit most of them very young.

I’m starting to think hartigan been another dud Pascoe signing

oh come on. have a look at our pathways and the turnover in players and the success we've seen already, and he's only been here 2 years. he dragged Scott Woodward out of Melbourne who is the reason for their ability to identify elite talent at a young age that no one else is looking at. we don't pay overs despite the fact that, yes, we've made the odd poor recruitment decision. Hartigan is one of the few reasons to be optimistic about this club. before him we had Kelly Egan who was a yes man that pinned his hopes on Tommy Talau and wanted to sign Tim Mannah mid season.

 

[balmain boy]

Young fella coming up called Ryan Couchman. Give him a couple of years I reckon you’ll know him.

But he doesn't play for us

 

[Demps]

We can all agree the weekend was not acceptable but why are we getting the crap kicked out of us but nothing about the titans?
The sea-eagles scored 48 points in 1 half more than the storm scored on us.
The titans are meant to be a top 4 side compare their team to ours,
phillip-sami QLD Rep
jarrod-wallace QLD Rep
tino-faasuamaleaui QLD Rep/Aus Rep
david-fifita QLD Rep/Aus Rep
tyrone-peachey NSW Rep
moeaki-fotuaika QLD Rep

because "hAve yOu sEEn hoW mAnY pLayErs the TiGeRs lEt gO?"

We have always been a media clickbait, easy to kick a dog whilst its down. Media (fox league especially) wanted a cinderalla story with Gold Coast based on all they invested with the documentary, so not mentioning they have been just as terrible as us - is just pulling cotton wool over their eyes. Instead it's easier to shift to another 'journo' going through the list of players we let go, with a tone of voice as if they just discovered it

Mate the truth is no one has been as terrible as us over a ten year period. As a club we continue to have massive problems,ground hog day for ten years is it any wonder we get bashed in the media,we just keep asking for it

Agreed.
We should be one of the most popular clubs in the comp tbh.

Great logo, great jerseys, great colour scheme, great mascot...
A player like Benji who inspired 1000s of kids.
Not many scandals like other clubs.
Melbourne - salary cap drama.
Bulldogs - sexual assault allegations
Sharks - PEDs/peptide scandal
Roosters - suspected salary cap rorts for years.

We are relatively clean in comparison to the other clubs yet we're not competitive on field and with results.

I think the NRL needs to step in... there's no reason we should've been disadvantaged for years because of Ivan's recruitment and previous mismanagements.

We have single handedly the best fan forum amongst all the teams. (Thanks @Kul )

People that like other teams most of the time rate us as their second favourite team or "second team"...

It's beneficial to ALL, NRL included if we're successful. Hopefully it can all come together on the field so we can move on from this "9th place losers" tag or 66-16 beatings, etc. And become the powerhouse club we deserve to be...

@TheDaBoss is about to get his P plates and wants to drive his new car with pride.

GO THE TIGERS !!
?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Morris never impressed me as a coach. He definitely got booted too soon but they could've done better than they did under him. 6 wins out of 20 games last year is not overly impressive

Flanagan is the most proven head coach but he's the cause of a lot of drama and hasn't coached in a while. Realistically we would have to look at elite assistant coaches who want the opportunity of coaching first grade but why sacrifice your career by coming here? Our options for a coach are very slim if we look to replace Madge.

Last year he was 10 wins 10 losses. Made the top 8.

True, for some reason the ladder I was looking at wasn't showing the full seasons results - I still don't think sharks were a great team though. Not saying we shouldn't have a go at him, he'd make a really good assistant too if that's an option but they had a really easy draw and never beat anyone of note really and had a pretty good squad.

I think the fact there's no great coaches available will keep Madge around for next year, maybe not the whole season but at least for the start.

But that could cause major issues as Madge has a lot of cap space to work with at the start of the season. If you let him pick a bunch of players and then he gets sacked halfway through, the next coach is stuck with players Maguire has signed to long term deals that the next manager might not want

If hartigan has the final word on recruitment that will solve the issue - he won't be getting sacked along with Madge so he can decide whether a signing will benefit the future of the club regardless of coach. Hartigan seems a good judge of what the club needs and won't pay overs or sign anyone on overly long deals.

You think so I think the players have been duds

If you look at the players we've signed after hartigan got here I'd argue most of them are pretty good, albeit most of them very young.

I’m starting to think hartigan been another dud Pascoe signing

Nah Hartigan is one of the good ones imo.

 

[Tcat]

I just watched this 6min clip on NRL on Nine 100% footy and just makes me feel sick..
(The insane Premiership-winning team that deserted the tigers is what the article is called)
Gallen and Gus were the main talkers and just listening to them basically say we are the most least preferred club to players and we are in a world of pain... But I can only agree with them because its true... hard to say but it's true.
Our roster is bog average and we CANNOT attract quality players like every other club so something has to change and change urgently.

I understand we are building from the ground up and foundations have been set but at the end of the day a footy club is based on on field results and we clearly lack them.

If the perception is no one wants to come here what do we do to change this as it is a MASSIVE problem.. Even the 2 teams below us on the ladder can attract Top Line players.. I have been on board with Madge and co for a while now but when you hear straight from Ex-players mouths that no one wants to come here, you need to take notice as they are not gaining anything out of there comments.

Do we change coaches ?
Do we buy let Sheens take over recruitment?
Do we need to replace some of the top dogs?

IDK but we sure need some positive news ASAP. :man-shrugging:

Although the board are one of the main issues, they can't be removed. We are pretty much at rock bottom and the only way forward imo is a thorough clean out.

Who remains?

Hartigan is a must keep. I feel like Hartigan is Billy Beane in Moneyball. Putting the best team together he can but getting screwed over by the A's managers selections and game plan.
Sheens will be crucial to any chance we have in success

Of the players? Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Simpkin, Seyfarth form a core of young players who seem to give a crap that we can build around. They stay

Who goes?
Pascoe has to go. Tiny profits aside, he's a dud.
Madge obviously. He's a dud.
All players not mentioned above.

Bring on a CEO with some gravitas, and bring on a coach and a bunch of good assistants who understand rugby league in 2021.

Completely agree but what coach is available that can help us ? Morris? The worst part for us is in theory it’s an easy fix but to actually make it happen is damn near impossible hence the reason we still have madge and Pascoe and a big average playing group

I believe John Morris and Sheens together would see an almost immediate improvement.

Do u see Morris wanting to come here and ruin whatever respect he has in the coaching world though that’s the big question! I strongly believe we can become a great club but not a lot of coaches/players want to come and ruin there careers. It’s hard to admit that this club I’ve loved forever is in a position where I can truly say we are in all sorts but it’s true. Jesus himself would struggle to get us out of the rut we have been in for the past 10 years!!

I think Morris would come here for sure. He knows Sheens, and I believe they'd work well together. It would be worth asking the question.

Only because he has nowhere else to go