@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1397019) said:
Brent Read saying he thinks we are mulling over Finucane/TPJ and we haven't landed on a destination yet. Also says dragons are monitoring tpj situation
Sounds like rubbish, make them both an offer and if either accepts, great and if we cant afford both withdraw the other.
Pretty sure we'd have the money for both? I'd be making both an offer if we do
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I'd be nervous about having so much $$$ tied up in second row. We have decent options there in LL, Blore Garner. Im VERY happy to spend good money on one new talented second rower but I cant justify tying up so much money in second row.
I think our second row is a bit of a worry. Garner is ok, Blore hasn't really come on like we'd hoped, and Luc looks completely cooked. I think we need a strong second rower and Luc goes to the interchange.
I agree totally but I think we need one not two, its too much to tie up in salary cap
Would Finucance play 13 though? Tbh I know he's got a good reputation but i'm not overly keen on Finucane. He'll cost a bomb and he's not getting any younger.
This is what does my head in ..
Finucane has an accomplished career no doubt but has played in far superior systems to ours ..
Add the fact he’s old and he wants $800k and he’s now on the slide ..
Not worth that sort of money !
I agree. I think that sort of money could be better spent elsewhere.
Especially expensive when considering much of his value is tied to an intangible known as “LEADERSHIP”.
I think we paid around $700k for Tamou’s leadership.
Even worse considering we have seyfarth. Buying leadership is a myth. It's not tangible. Just ask plodder tamou
Of course you can buy people with leadership qualities, I hire people all the time because of their leadership qualities.
How do you recognise those leadership qualities?
By speaking with them and others that know them, by observation and looking at and discussing their and their teams results and output. It's not very difficult at all.
Yes of course mate, but what is it that you recognise in a person that tells you they have leadership qualities? A persons ability to influence the behaviour of others? In my opinion it’s a strong belief in the goals of the organisation. Now you take a career footballer who has played his entire career at another club, how much of what he believed in needs to change in order for him to continue being a leader?
No I don't really agree with that, I want my leaders to develop those goals. The goals of all clubs are pretty much the same to win games, how that is done varies from club to club. I want my leaders to create and drive the standard required to win those games. Leaders transfer from one organisation to another all the time and yes football is a little different but leadership skills are transferrable.
One of the things I admire in leaders are leaders who develop other leaders, Tamou does this all the time, the way he speaks about younger players is inspiring.
Not too sure what you’re disagreeing with? Perhaps the point regarding belief in the WT story? I just don’t think it’s as easy as many may think, to buy loyalty and belief in your club, which is essential for leaders to buy in and prove their worth as leaders. It’s much easier to grow it over time. I love Tamou in the team because of his experience, but his admission that there are underlying issues preventing him from doing his job proves my point. We haven’t had a great deal of success trying to buy leadership since Sheens left. A little different in a normal workplace where there is less physical and emotional distress under fatigue, when you can rely on a personality /character type to continue to do their job. On the park in the heat of battle, when a leader is called upon, it comes from a deep down held belief in what he’s doing. Sure, buy older players because of their experience but to call it leadership is a stretch imo. There should be 13 players on the park showing leadership qualities at any given time during a game. That’s how you win games. That’s what WT should aspire to, and the only way to get that is for the club to have a good story and grow it’s leaders. imo.
