Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[avocadoontoast]

Apparently tigers are looking at maybe signing woods now that they’ve missed out on finucane and TPJ

I do not like this

Sharon's coming home

It's the feel good story of the year.


Yuck!!!
I can never forget that fox panel discussion he was on when he was here. When, as captain of the ship, he practically helped drive us into an iceberg, when he could have helped steer away.
I am not a fan at all. Don't want him anywhere near us.

You’ll learn to love him again ❤️

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I agree. We need something to break the back of this. If we can do something to get B smith across the line (Harry T 3rd party)... we should do it.

We've unfortunately got 2 decent hookers, so he's not in the ideal position. He doesn't want to play lock.

Cheese is the right move, as always, the value comes in the terms of the contract.

Personally, I would begin with a 3 year deal, with a fourth year club option, at 700k, which includes a swap with Liddle to secure a release for next year.

Simpkin could play second fiddle for a year or two as Smith owns the hooking role with an in-game lock shift.

Lids is playing well, but I think his ceiling is lower than that of Simpkin, which I think should be heavily considered.

Nah screw a 700k 3 year deal, we need to unload on melbourne with a nuke of an offer, not a half hearted slap. And if signing B. Smith means Liddle has to move on, as painful as that would be with the heart and loyalty he's shown, it has to be done. Cheese starting hooker with Jake Simpkin apprenticing under him and on the interchange.


Another Liddle hater, did those peopl ever watch the WT games, or they just play computer games?
What we need ATM is:
- good tall defender on the RW;
- 2x tall good defensive centres
- 2x aggressive props; Tamou, Ophenague, may join Lailua bros somewhere else, preferably not in the WT NSW cup,
Props like: JWH, Haas, Saifiti, Junior Paulo, Papalii....
-2x aggressive 2nd rowers - One can be Tuilagi, we need another one - A Crichton, Ridley, Murray type
- aggressive lock - B Smith would be an excellent choice

Those players shall be our primary targets, if we don’t fix these holes, no JAC, Munster, Fatrell, type signings could help!

B Smith wants to play hooker he won't come here for a lock role

If Finucane's money becomes available for Storm to keep Cheese, doesn't that mean he's accepting the lock role? It's the money they were paying their lock.

As long as Storm have Harry Grant on the books, Cheese won't be playing hooker by himself.

think he will leave to play hooker he has said so in the past and he is current test hooker.
Either us or Bulldogs

 

[coivtny]

@coivtny
I don't see those proposed executive/management changes **all** happening in the short-term. If at all, they would be incremental. So, even though I agree that some or all those changes need to be made, the timeframes of turn-around might be a bit unrealistic.

Yeh, possibly. I just think we need to make a big statement on who we want to be. I agree you wouldn't do all three at once. I'd start with Pascoe and let his replacement select Hartigan's replacement. I'd tell Madge he's gone at the end of 2021 and tell Flanagan he's got them when they resume after the break. If Madge wants to leave earlier that's OK.

 

[Kelce68]

I agree. We need something to break the back of this. If we can do something to get B smith across the line (Harry T 3rd party)... we should do it.

We've unfortunately got 2 decent hookers, so he's not in the ideal position. He doesn't want to play lock.

Cheese is the right move, as always, the value comes in the terms of the contract.

Personally, I would begin with a 3 year deal, with a fourth year club option, at 700k, which includes a swap with Liddle to secure a release for next year.

Simpkin could play second fiddle for a year or two as Smith owns the hooking role with an in-game lock shift.

Lids is playing well, but I think his ceiling is lower than that of Simpkin, which I think should be heavily considered.

Nah screw a 700k 3 year deal, we need to unload on melbourne with a nuke of an offer, not a half hearted slap. And if signing B. Smith means Liddle has to move on, as painful as that would be with the heart and loyalty he's shown, it has to be done. Cheese starting hooker with Jake Simpkin apprenticing under him and on the interchange.

700k as a starting point is hardly half-hearted.

Its no point offering 700k when you know B. Smith will stay at the storm for 600k. Besides we've had literal millions tied up in reynolds/packer/mbye. A million a year for the cheese would only be packers contract plus a little bit more. Well worth it in my opinion.

The concept of a starting point is to open up negotiations from there.

...If you come out with 1 million as a starting point, they counter with 1.2.

Or you can come out, put the 4 million dollar 4 year contract on the table, and say this figure isn't changing. Some of the terms of the contract may change (say the 4th year in cheeses favour) but this number won't. It's an exorbitant offer, that B.Smith is worth, which needs no countering.

Yep, that's another option.

 

[Kelce68]

I agree. We need something to break the back of this. If we can do something to get B smith across the line (Harry T 3rd party)... we should do it.

We've unfortunately got 2 decent hookers, so he's not in the ideal position. He doesn't want to play lock.

Cheese is the right move, as always, the value comes in the terms of the contract.

Personally, I would begin with a 3 year deal, with a fourth year club option, at 700k, which includes a swap with Liddle to secure a release for next year.

Simpkin could play second fiddle for a year or two as Smith owns the hooking role with an in-game lock shift.

Lids is playing well, but I think his ceiling is lower than that of Simpkin, which I think should be heavily considered.

Nah screw a 700k 3 year deal, we need to unload on melbourne with a nuke of an offer, not a half hearted slap. And if signing B. Smith means Liddle has to move on, as painful as that would be with the heart and loyalty he's shown, it has to be done. Cheese starting hooker with Jake Simpkin apprenticing under him and on the interchange.

700k as a starting point is hardly half-hearted.

Not even through the front gate of the Ball Park

The focus on the dollar value I mentioned here is amusing.

 

[Shooter Mcgavin]

If we did sign Flanagan Snr, wouldn’t he bring in Flanagan Jnr, thinking he can get the best out of him etc etc. I don’t like the idea of either at the club to be honest.

Madge & Brooks > Flanagan duo

 

[tony soprano]

Our signings record over the past couple of years has been abysmal. The two teams I think we're most like in terms of size, reputation, location etc are the Bulldogs and Sharks. Both teams have completely outgunned WT in the quality of their signings this year. It has become an embarrassment how we are consistently out-manoeuvred time after time for quality players. Surely at some point this will have an effect on retention of WT fans and sponsors and ultimately on retaining our own quality players. I can't imagine the likes of Stefano and Simpkin wanting to stay with a club which is a consistent non-performer. Put simply, something has to change if we are to change botrh the perception and reality of our club's performances on and off the field.
Not much point having a whinge without proposing a solution. Here's mine:
a) get rid of Hartigan. We have stuffed up too many recruitments. I'm sure he was a great recruiter at Easts. But it's not that hard to recruit players to Easts because they desperately want to go there and will go there for less money than clubs like WT. His style just doesn't work with a club like ours.
b) get rid of Maguire. The players don't respond to him and he's had more than enough time to get better results than he's getting. Nice guy but he's part of the problem and will not be part of the solution. I'd sign Flanagan in a heartbeat. He knows how to coach and will have a better chance of attracting quality players. I think the mere fact that we make the switch to Flanagan will change the dynamic for WT and will open us up for business with better quality players. I know plenty of forum members have no time for Flanagan but he's a winner and I would ensure his contract had strong behavioural clauses in it.
c) get rid of Pascoe. He's been at WT for long enough to improve the culture of the club and he just hasn't been successful. He just does not have the vibe of a COE. His position would be the easiest of the three to recruit to, there would be a good field of applicants.
d) Once those three changes have been made I'd have Sheens and Flanagan go through the playing roster and get rid of / pay out any player that doesn't fit with the culture and uncompromising playing style that the new WT represents.
Once those changes have been made I think players would be more willing to come and play with us but it could take three years to build a finals-ready roster. I'd be prepared to wait.

Get rid of long paragraphs

Mate, don't tell me how to write. Don't read it if it's not to your liking. Any comment on the substance?

Just a joke agreed we need some signings but don't agree big money big name is what we need


Hopefully we gan get more talent like your Steph and laurie and keep building.

Agree this year roster was inexcusable

My apologies for the over-reaction.

No need was a bad joke

Haha, I think I do get it now. It was a play on my "get rid of" comments. Sometimes I'm a bit slow.

I don't even know anymore don't mind me Sydney lock down brain

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

You can just see it now, Sharon will be coming home wont he for gods sake.

 

[voice_of_reason]

No. There would not be 16 clubs bidding. But I'll infer that you were alluding to the fact that he would be extremely popular on the open market. I don't disagree. However, between cap space limitations and squad requirements, I'd say the interest would be a more realistic half a dozen teams, so let's not exaggerate for effect.

Not exaggerating, we'll have to agree to disagree.

If Cheese went on the market at $700k I believe EVERY club would be interested. The only hookers in cooeee of him are Cook and Grant - maybe Koroisau - and I genuinely believe Souths and Penrith would still have interest at that price. Neither Cook or Grant have real ability outside of 9 whilst Cheese can be any forward.

 

[TigerWest]

Chemist Warehouse Injury Report: Round 20
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Dan Talintyre
Timestamp
Mon 26 Jul 2021, 03:30 PM
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Wests Tigers can provide the following Chemist Warehouse Injury Report ahead of the club's Round 20 clash against the New Zealand Warriors this Friday at Suncorp Stadium.

After picking up injuries in last week's loss to the Sea Eagles, both Luke Garner (ankle) and Alex Seyfarth (knee) are set to the sidelined for an extended period of time with the pair requiring further attention to their injuries.

Garner has suffered a syndesmosis injury and will undergo an additional assessment this week while Seyfarth has sustained a high-grade injury to his medial collateral ligament — also ruling him out for several weeks.

Both players will be sidelined for an indefinite period of time as the club continues to monitor their recovery in the coming weeks.

 

[Aceshigh]

I watched Woodsy yesterday and he has more leg drive than most of our forwards

 

[TheDaBoss]

Chemist Warehouse Injury Report: Round 20
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Mon 26 Jul 2021, 03:30 PM
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Wests Tigers can provide the following Chemist Warehouse Injury Report ahead of the club's Round 20 clash against the New Zealand Warriors this Friday at Suncorp Stadium.

After picking up injuries in last week's loss to the Sea Eagles, both Luke Garner (ankle) and Alex Seyfarth (knee) are set to the sidelined for an extended period of time with the pair requiring further attention to their injuries.

Garner has suffered a syndesmosis injury and will undergo an additional assessment this week while Seyfarth has sustained a high-grade injury to his medial collateral ligament — also ruling him out for several weeks.

Both players will be sidelined for an indefinite period of time as the club continues to monitor their recovery in the coming weeks.

Kick manly out, we should of knee capped turbo

 

[Needaname]

Flanagan cannot come here. We must stand for something.

Not bagging your thoughts but ask yourself what we do stand for. We are not respected for anything by anyone outside our narrow fan base. ***The mission of a football team is to win football games without breaking the law***.

And Flanagan can't do that.

Don't think he broke the law. You can be pedantic in your dislike of Flanagan and I understand that but he did not break the law as far as I'm aware. You manage his behaviour through a well-worded contract and a good club culture. Cronulla had neither.

Well he didn't break the law in the classical sense, he violated rules in the game in regard to doping. Broke laws in the game set up to ensure fair play. He's a cheat and was punished accordingly. There's nothing pedantic about that stance at all.

Matter of opinion on whether your opinion was pedantic bit I get it that you don't agree. He did cheat and he was punished for it. As far as I'm concerned he's available and should be considered.

Much easier to build a club up that has always had an air of success.

Forgetful you bunch are. Souths have been cellar dwellers for decades before Madge turned them into a consistent top 4 team.

Whether or not he’ll get us to the premiership I’m not willing to part with him until he turns this team and entire organisation into title contenders.
If he can’t seal the deal after that, a change in the air is fair enough. Maybe even Flanagan could be called upon. But the job that Madge has started is not even close to being complete.

As far as Hartigan being great with Junior recruitment. That’s fantastic but he seems to still have a long way to go with recruiting profile players to the club.

As Mark Carrol said recently and I’m sure it’s echoed by most. “I’d run through brick walls for Madge, I’d love to be coached by him”.

So the answer to the problem lies somewhere between the two where each of Madge and Hartigan have plenty to offer in their respective roles still.

I have no doubt that Sheens will be the glue and possibly the ‘face’ of future negotiations.

 

[tigerballs]

Darryn Schonig from Melbourne Storm is the type of player we need.
Big and Aggressive and wouldnt cost much.
This guy is itching to get into a first grade side and play consistantly.
There is also Max King as lock from the Storm aswell.
There is a youngster by the name of Judda Turahui with huge wraprs on him.

Storm didn't lose Finucane for nothing. They realise Turahui is the next Finucane. Storm don't but marquee players, they let them go.

 

[WswWt]

Woods > Tampon Tamou

 

[Geo]

Apparently tigers are looking at maybe signing woods now that they’ve missed out on finucane and TPJ

I do not like this

Sharon's coming home

It's the feel good story of the year.

And people say we can't attract marquee talent

You cant polish a turd but u can put sprinkles on it ?

Myth BUSTED..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

 

[WT46]

One week to fill our top 30 squad. With Mbye potentially leaving, who will fill the holes?

 

[TheDaBoss]

One week to fill our top 30 squad. With Mbye potentially leaving, who will fill the holes?

HSS

 

[Newtown]

One week to fill our top 30 squad. With Mbye potentially leaving, who will fill the holes?

Knowing our management they won't it would be quite likely that they don't fill the hole with anybody. CAP money just sitting there and wasted.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I watched Woodsy yesterday and he has more leg drive than most of our forwards

He cops it here and rightfully so for how he left.

That aside if we look at it just based on footy, if he did come back he would be one of our best forwards instantly which says a lot of the state of our side atm.