Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jirskyr]

I note at the time the decision to leave Inglis on the field was compared to the swift action of Bellamy to remove Jess Bromwich from the field after he badly injured his hand. Again I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions on the issue.

I'm sorry, on this one you've completely lost your mind. Comparing a systematic drug, salary cap and ban cheat with the odd injured player. An injured player in no way being consistently applied to Maguire as a coach, or independent of the actions of any other prominent coach.

You point out Craig Bellamy removing Jesse Bromwich, what about Cam Smith playing last year's GF with broken ribs? After he had already spent the previous 2 months taking painkillers for a chronic shoulder injury.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2020-cameron-smith-rib-injury-melbourne-storm-vs-penrith-panthers-grand-final/news-story/07bedde4b11e727cd06f4fb83d89b163

Trent Robinson knowingly played Cooper Cronk with a broken scapula, what the club doctor described as an injury more common to vehicular accidents. Borderlining the amount of anaesthetic they could safely administer.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/01/how-cooper-cronk-overcame-car-crash-injury-to-win-a-grand-final/
>"Robbo (Roosters coach Trent Robinson) was really calm, he was saying 'If it's negative news I don't want to hear about it, you just have to give him every minute'," Ibrahim said.
>"That fracture is what you see with motorbike accidents and car accidents. It was the width of his scapula – the entire width. Which would have been 15cm. We cut the jersey off at half-time.
>The other thing to note is that it was the maximum dose we could give him. Anything more and it starts playing with your heart. If you give someone too much local anaesthetic their heart goes into a funny rhythm. We gave him 20ml before the match and 15ml at half-time. The maximum we could give him was 45mL.

Tim Sheens knowingly played Pat Richards in the 2005 decider with ankle ligament injuries - couldn't even finish the match.

Brett Morris played that match in Origin 2014 with a broken shoulder, permitted by coach Laurie Daley.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/brett-morris-bravely-played-most-of-state-of-origin-match-with-broken-shoulder-20140530-zrt6c.html

Wayne Bennett named Shane Webcke to START in the 2000 Grand Final despite having a broken arm.
https://www.broncos.com.au/news/2020/04/21/webcke-named-for-grand-final-despite-broken-arm/

Newcastle coach Malcolm Reilly named Andrew Johns in the 1997 decider after he had punctured his lung and broken two ribs in the prior 2 weeks.

Ricky Stuart named Chris Flannery in the 2004 Grand Final side, despite having ruptured a testicle the week prior.

So don't give us this nonsense rubbish that Madge is somehow different or uniquely dismissive of player welfare when I can so easily list off the most famous, most decorated coaches not just leaving injured players on the field, but knowingly naming them to play despite very significant existing injury and risk. Absolute baloney.

Nice research but you missed the Greatest of All Sheens sending Keefy back out with a busted knee not to mention the pain killing jab that went wrong with Fults causing WT to pull a bloke from the stands with borrowed boots to play..

Didn't Farah get a bung needle about that same time?

 

[jirskyr]

doesn't fit the narrative mate

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[Spacecub]

Watched the final of the rugby 7s from Tokyo...there's some powerhouse units in that Fijian team, that's a nation we should be targeting

 

[DGilly]

Literally don’t give a crap what type of person he is. All this carry on about the “type of person to represent my Tigers “ is just rubbish. I want people who can play and are desperate to win. Anything else is a whatever. It’s about winning.
We don’t have a Mr Congeniality award in the NRL.
Is he the best centre around now? No. Is he light years better than anyone else we have in the centres - a resounding yes. Give him a reasonable tight contract with the right incentives or out the door. He’ll straighten up.

The type of person you are determines the type of player you are. The types of players you have determines the type of team you have.

Respectfully disagree with that. A million @holes who have been world champs.

They might be a holes but they're the type of a holes that want to win more than anything. Lazy people always getting into legal trouble do not become world champs

 

[tony soprano]

I'm OK with anyone who belted Walker. Walker what a grub ay as if you'd have him at your club sickening how he's partner changed her story

 

[finnzo]

Surley we are trying to get curtis for at least this year and next what’s the pint of getting him just for this year where gonna be stuck with the same centres plus the pommy next year

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Who cares. Won’t move us up the ladder.

 

[diedpretty]

Scott might be one of those short term loan deals for remainder of 2021. I can live with that and imagine he’d bust a gut to get his career back on track

I agree - the report says we want him for the remainder of the season. I would imagine if it works out we might offer him a longer deal.

 

[Demps]

I don’t think madge is the right coach for Scott..he should take a pay cut and go back to Melb (if they’ll take him) or go to chooks. He’s not the type of player a struggling club needs..

Some could say the same about Hastings.
I think these guys have matured and are ready to make a difference on the field

Scott's got a reputation but once you look at it... it isn't that bad.

He's 23 and made some dumb decisions but nothing too heinous like some other players who currently play.

This will be his 4th club.
Daresay that alone should make him realise options are limited and opportunities don't always present themselves unless you work hard.

Under the radar , dark horse Signing that I believe will be really rewarding for both the club and Curtis.

 

[Demps]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.

 

[twentyforty]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.

Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

 

[Demps]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.


Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

Maybe he's realise it's time to prove his worth and take control.

He doesn't want to play for the Raiders - who would ?

With all the shopping talk, which is coming from the raiders end... not ours... it looks like he's realising Tigers is his team and his home.

 

[Snake]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.


Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

Maybe he's realise it's time to prove his worth and take control.

He doesn't want to play for the Raiders - who would ?

With all the shopping talk, which is coming from the raiders end... not ours... it looks like he's realising Tigers is his team and his home.

If the club is willing to put the effort in helping with his demons and he wants to continue playing this could be a good signing for this year and the future … I am not a believer in throwing people to the curb and forgetting them .

 

[TigerWest]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.


Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

Maybe he's realise it's time to prove his worth and take control.

He doesn't want to play for the Raiders - who would ?

With all the shopping talk, which is coming from the raiders end... not ours... it looks like he's realising Tigers is his team and his home.

If the club is willing to put the effort in helping with his demons and he wants to continue playing this could be a good signing for this year and the future … I am not a believer in throwing people to the curb and forgetting them .

Unless it's Madge?

 

[rihannafan1]

If Curtis Scott was good his other teams would have found a way to keep him.

 

[Aceshigh]

He is a damn sight better than what we have at the moment , give the bloke a fair go

 

[cktiger]

Literally don’t give a crap what type of person he is. All this carry on about the “type of person to represent my Tigers “ is just rubbish. I want people who can play and are desperate to win. Anything else is a whatever. It’s about winning.
We don’t have a Mr Congeniality award in the NRL.
Is he the best centre around now? No. Is he light years better than anyone else we have in the centres - a resounding yes. Give him a reasonable tight contract with the right incentives or out the door. He’ll straighten up.

So same should go for Flanagan to replace madge

Depends on whether you think Flanagan is a better coach than Madge - in my opinion he’s not.
Also drug cheats are scum. I wouldnt be saying that if Scott had been pinged for drugs.
And I think you know exactly what I mean re not being Choir boys.

Yes I do. Thus clubs dramatic rebuild can be done with a different coach. The game has surpassed Madge, his style doesn’t work anymore.

How would you describe Madges style?

That’s his biggest downfall, he doesn’t have one.

Watch anyone with some footy know how and they all say we have no identity on the field which is true. We’re not a gritty defensive team, nor are we a flashy attacking team.

Maguire has come in known for being a defensive coach and correct me if I’m wrong has us playing some of, if not the worst defence we’ve had in our existence. Now I understand the rules have shifted dramatically in the last 2 seasons but it’s Maguires inability to adapt which is most worrying.

The attack has improved but again, rule changes. We’ve literally outscored some teams in the top 8 but we are bottom 3 in defence. Genuinely believe if he stays next season, will get the spoon. I don’t see any dramatic changes happening in the off season where practically the same squad will just gel defensively


His style is there for all to see.

New rules reward attack and stifle defence. with defence its hard to compare YOY as its bad all round. even then if you are not top 2 you go backwards. blowouts are massive this year

Call me Stevie then because I can’t see it. The attack is a messy and doesn’t look to have any plan or shape to it.

Look who’s directing it.

 

[TigerNeddyK]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.


Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

Maybe he's realise it's time to prove his worth and take control.

He doesn't want to play for the Raiders - who would ?

With all the shopping talk, which is coming from the raiders end... not ours... it looks like he's realising Tigers is his team and his home.

If the club is willing to put the effort in helping with his demons and he wants to continue playing this could be a good signing for this year and the future … I am not a believer in throwing people to the curb and forgetting them .

Unless it's Madge?

People with potential, is what he may have meant

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I woukd be disappointed if we dont put a really good offer to B Smith seems like he doesn't just want to play starting 9 now that could help us.
Pay overs for him Wests Tigers pay him 900k if you have to much better long term Signing than tpj or finucane

 

[yeahcaz]

The bit I read on Scott coming to us suggested it might just be a loan type deal for the balance of this season to cover WT injury issues.

Hope not.
We need him for a few years.

Why would Canberra help us like that?
We're both competing for the final spot in the 8....

They're trying to agitate for a move with Brooks.
We aren't on good terms lol.


Brooks’ kicks were going where he wanted and he played well last couple of games. Something has pumped up his tyres?

Maybe he's realise it's time to prove his worth and take control.

He doesn't want to play for the Raiders - who would ?

With all the shopping talk, which is coming from the raiders end... not ours... it looks like he's realising Tigers is his team and his home.

Jeez what a story ?

He went to Canberra to get out of Sydney so he could stay out of trouble so what better move then to come back to Sydney and play for a team that is in a constant rabble and a coach that seems to have players in a revolt every few weeks. Yeah he’s only young but he’s hardly matured. No better support system than your piss head mates you know live a small drive away from.

No one is fixing their Career here. Plus what a waste of time for an immediate transfer. Even if we signed him today, he’d play 4 games and we won’t make the 8 anyway.

It’s just as upsetting to me as anyone about all the big targets we’ve missed lately but this reeks of desperation.
If the club go through with this or any potential deal for woods, we’ve learned nothing and don’t deserve better.