@davey_farrell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1439457) said:
kills me to say this i thought we looked better when Mbye went to dummy half, i thought his passing was crisper then Liddle, i am unfortunately seeing nothing in Liddle. His passing was aweful today, he is going backwards
Quite a lot of our players have regressed in their standard of play. How long can WTs afford to stick with Maguire?
Depends on how you look at it Utoikamanu, Laurie, Blore, Maumalo, Luciano, Douihei, Twal, Mikalele, Ofehengaue are players who play for Madge.
The group that doesn’t Mbye, Brooks, BJ, Liddle, Nofa.
Which group is the club trying to move on? That will tell you what will happen with Madge.
The players regressing under madge are the players that have to be moved on not the coach.
The narrative is wrong it’s being pushed by media and people are jumping on it without realising the issue it’s our senior players.
Our playing group is better than what our performances and place on the ladder suggest.
The issue is with Maguire and he should be sacked asap.
I disagree with pretty much everything you said.
This is the same playing group that Maguire has to a large extent signed or re-signed. You involve yourself in a blame shifting exercise. Put Maguire on the market and no club would want him. Put Brooks and Liddle on the market and plenty of clubs would be interested.
I wonder how many supporting Maguire actually have a vested interest in doing so - you know snouts - trough?
We are a bottom 2 roster as was called by a majority of experts at the start of the year. It’s a rebuild. Our level of mediocrity predates Maguire as no one has had the balls to take a long term approach. It’s about living in reality and not some fantasy land where we have a good team and the coach can’t coach.
I’ve heard this from many wishful thinkers.
The roster is average and will only be rebuilt slowly through youth.
If there’s an upgrade I’m all for changing the coach. There won’t be one, no good young coach is coming here. Flanagan is the only realistic option. I’d prefer they stick with Madge.
At the end of the day whatever decision the management with Sheens on board makes will be the right one but using arguments like Madge’s roster etc is a joke. He can only sign who wants to come here and the mess was not created by him.
Well said tyga
I've been saying this for ages
Some people just don't get it though and never will
They have blinkers on
Madge may not be the answer in the end but changing coaches over the years has got us no where
Everything bar the NRL squad is heading in the right direction
Just need to wait for the youngsters to develop
I agree. Though Madge has his deficiencies (which would be mitigated by a half competent assistant or two) it isn’t his fault in my opinion that we can’t attract talent.
Had a little browse through the roosters forum for Fantasy/Draft purposes and found a thread on the Butcher Bros. In relation to Egan being rumoured to us there were some interesting responses…
**Quote 1 -** “Money does talk, but how much value does that hold against learning your craft in a better system at such a young age.
If he remains with us for another 3 years his value will be much higher at the end of his next contract than if he were to go to the tigers and fall prey to their player management.”
**Quote 2 -** “ I can see why they're interested - he's been great the last month but can't see that going to the tigers is a good career move at this stage”
**Quote 3 -** “ I would love to see the Tigers have success but if I was Egan I would stay away from them”
Even with AD when he signed with us said that all his friends/family told him to accept his Roosters offer and to decline the Tigers offer (which I think we offered more $).
To me, our recruitment (or lack thereof) doesn’t seem like a Madge problem, but a club problem.
Club needs to rebrand itself to the public. Getting better facilities via the COE and hopefully the doco series can stimulate public opinion to see us in a more favourable light.
Madge isn’t going great in many areas, though the recruitment troubles were conceived long before he got here in my opinion.
